What is the best mod for the Money

RCZ

Tune on a stock car hands down? Teh Joke? Maybe wait till you have some parts on the car to get the tune....this isnt a turbo engine, getting a tune first would be pointless.

Id say a catback... you get power AND sound. If you can swing longtube intakes and a catback, thats my suggestion.

Kastley85891

Sorry dude I disagree respectfully.

Personally I feel any car can benefit from a tune, turbo or not, stock tunes are fine but any stock tune can be improved on, whats the point of throwing mods at avehicle with out first having the device to extract the most from those mods?
My 2 cents, extract what you can from what you got then repeat, none of the add ons are cheap etc

second note... I am biased as I will tune my self ;-) ,from the other side of the coin, I can see your logic when shelling out for tunes and parts.

imag

Look at the track record on tunes. CBE is a way better deal, and RCZ is right - you get better sound to boot. And if you get the intake and exhaust first, you don't have to retune.

G37Sam

With all the respect to your opinion, I beg to disagree

If you don't improve the car's breathing, then there's nothing the tune will enhance. Stock A/F ratio is almost perfect on a stock car. Not even sure you'll gain much from opening the throttle valves all the way. The VVEL hasn't been cracked yet, so no cam phasing change (assuming that isn't good enough already as well).

Can you elaborate on "doing the tune yourself" please?

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KillerBee370

^ VVEL's been cracked for awhile now.

Kastley85891

G37 SAM Can you elaborate on "doing the tune yourself" please?

Sure - getting the software, hooking up you permanant WB sensor/s going out and logging, changing your ROM image and relogging, basically road tuning instead of dyno tuning, with your self as the tuner.

I expect disagreement on my opinion, and welcome it, I still think any platform in 'factory format' can be improved with a tune, I like to stage my changes and tune at every step of the way, I can get fairly good 'base' and 'stage' data and enhance my specific learning of the vehicle.

Cheers

How is the UAE these days, great place, I am jeleous of you being there

VTalumni

Since you have the capability to tune yourself, I totally agree with you. It doesnt cost you anything additional per tune so why not. Plus, since everyone is saying the car runs rich in the stock tune, leaning it out will definitely increase power. Keep us posted and let us know what you learn.

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