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UNKNOWN_370 08-14-2015 11:15 AM

2015 370z vs 2015 Hyundai genesis coupe r-spec
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBKuKxyUb08

We've hit there's when the stagnant base/sport 370z will be compared to the ever-evolving Hyundai Genesis coupe R-Spec. Both make similar numbers at similar prices. Sell about the same in numbers. Our cars hands down are the real drivers cars of the group. But truth is... If we evolved the Z at an equal rate as a Hyundai Genesis coupe. This review would've not sounded anything like this.

Areas we should have been progressing.

1. Updating our interiors with more features and better materials.
2. An LSD throughout the range. This should never have been an issue.
3. The base stereo... SERIOUSLY! SMH

These areas sound small but keeps our cars from competing with cars it shouldn't be compared to.

Uxi 08-14-2015 11:27 AM

NISMO compares far better, especially on the interior and materials though that's a good price for the Genesis Ultimate. I've said before, Nissan should just make the Tech package standard on the NISMO trim, if not sport, change nothing else (twin turdBo and/or some sort of displacement on demand tech, if not a dual clutch 8 or 9 speed tranny)....

Not that a 4 door compares to a 2-seat Z.... just sayin'.

Firebase99 08-14-2015 11:41 AM

I just watched this a few min ago. Too funny. having both cars I pretty much agree with everything he said too.

Zbo 08-14-2015 12:08 PM

Everyones new favorite word is the 370z is long in the tooth and the Nismo is lipstick on a pig. Sadly it's kind of true we really need a next generation z already .. also Nissan was just ranked close to the bottom again on reliability and customer satisfaction...

UNKNOWN_370 08-14-2015 12:41 PM

The Z is better than spoken of. It's cuz Nissan NEVER makes the appropriate updates. It becomes an easy target. Nissan doesn't know how to update in a progressive society when it comes to sports cars.

2009_370z 08-14-2015 12:44 PM

You would know best LOL! Everyday, the Gen coupe grows on me haha.

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Originally Posted by Firebase99 (Post 3285084)
I just watched this a few min ago. Too funny. having both cars I pretty much agree with everything he said too.


wanker 08-14-2015 12:53 PM

Have you driven a Genesis lately? I have. Both the transmission and the engine were "rough" compared to the Z. Still a nice car for the price.

moore.speed 08-14-2015 01:19 PM

Another aspect to separate the two vehicles: depreciation.

The Z does much better with that than the Genesis Coupe.

Firebase99 08-14-2015 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by wanker (Post 3285141)
Have you driven a Genesis lately? I have. Both the transmission and the engine were "rough" compared to the Z. Still a nice car for the price.

Naaa...on the '15 6MT they finally got the synchros right, feels VERY much like the '13 370 shifter. 8 speed auto (mine) are silky smooth.

Firebase99 08-14-2015 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by moore.speed (Post 3285179)
Another aspect to separate the two vehicles: depreciation.

The Z does much better with that than the Genesis Coupe.

Never crossed my mind with any car Ive ever bought, knock on wood that it never will either. Much like "darn 93 octane is 30 cents more"...dont even notice.

kynseon 08-14-2015 01:34 PM

Aint nothing wrong with the base model. I have the Sport Touring but Base is just as good

Zipper 104 08-14-2015 01:47 PM

Hyundai? Really?
 
Really?.....it's a Hyundai for ***** sake. Not for me, but thanks anyway.


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GZ3 08-14-2015 02:00 PM

Ehh just because you make a certain car perform like another, doesnt make it a true sport car with lineage and hertige like the Z. If the genesis can withstand the test time like the Z, then it can come into the conversation. This is just a price point comparo, trivial

DIGItonium 08-14-2015 02:02 PM

The Z is just plain impractical... :stirthepot:

...that's why I have a CRV (just picked up a used '08 last night) :rofl2:

I love the Z for the pureness, and I don't have to pay for all the factory bells and whistles since I rather get something better from the aftermarket. For example, the Z's base head unit is easy to replace without the need for special hardware. I don't have to worry about the crazy integration. The HVAC panel, while not as fancy, is super easy to use so I can focus more on driving. Such simple things minimize driver distraction so more time is spent enjoying the car.

Firebase99 08-14-2015 02:55 PM

:tup:Not much love for the Genesis...well, its really hot out. Lemme just turn on my car with my phone, make sure its nice and cool in there.

Nick216 08-14-2015 03:37 PM

True story. A 3.8 genesis was certtain his cars faster because of .1 liters. Over my nismo. This was not the case. Lol

UNKNOWN_370 08-14-2015 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by moore.speed (Post 3285179)
Another aspect to separate the two vehicles: depreciation.

The Z does much better with that than the Genesis Coupe.


That's based on demographic. Both Z and get do similarly in dfw. But here they rip you off once a car has a sporting two and/or appearance.

UNKNOWN_370 08-14-2015 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by DIGItonium (Post 3285236)
The Z is just plain impractical... :stirthepot:

...that's why I have a CRV (just picked up a used '08 last night) :rofl2:

I love the Z for the pureness, and I don't have to pay for all the factory bells and whistles since I rather get something better from the aftermarket. For example, the Z's base head unit is easy to replace without the need for special hardware. I don't have to worry about the crazy integration. The HVAC panel, while not as fancy, is super easy to use so I can focus more on driving. Such simple things minimize driver distraction so more time is spent enjoying the car.

I have a completely aftermarket stereo... BUT at $34.000 and manual cloth seats, my only wish on a stock Z. Was having a stereo worthy of this caliber car. I probably would have replaced it anyway. It it's the principle of the purchase. I want to see better quality for the money.

UNKNOWN_370 08-14-2015 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Firebase99 (Post 3285257)
:tup:Not much love for the Genesis...well, its really hot out. Lemme just turn on my car with my phone, make sure its nice and cool in there.


From my standpoint. It's not about Genesis hate or love. It's about the Z'S place in the market, alongside pseudo-competition.

As far as my seats. I have cloth. I find when I remotely roll down the window 5 minutes before entering. The car isn't bad. And my acc cools up the car near immediately.
Also there's a report about hackers using those apps to disable and enable brakes by remote. Thanks... But No thanks. :tiphat:

Firebase99 08-14-2015 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 3285296)
From my standpoint. It's not about Genesis hate or love. It's about the Z'S place in the market, alongside pseudo-competition.

As far as my seats. I have cloth. I find when I remotely roll down the window 5 minutes before entering. The car isn't bad. And my acc cools up the car near immediately.
Also there's a report about hackers using those apps to disable and enable brakes by remote. Thanks... But No thanks. :tiphat:

The biggest problem about the Z for me was...me. I was bored. I bought the Z in 2013, that was when prices were the highest. 6 months later they cut prices by $4000. I was pissed. The Z was bare bones, fun to drive, but spartan. Raw. I got a LOADED Genesis for thousands less than i paid for a base Sport Z. Not quite as fun to drive but it is MUCH more comfortable in every way, plus its still PRETTY fun to mess around in.

UNKNOWN_370 08-14-2015 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Firebase99 (Post 3285306)
The biggest problem about the Z for me was...me. I was bored. I bought the Z in 2013, that was when prices were the highest. 6 months later they cut prices by $4000. I was pissed. The Z was bare bones, fun to drive, but spartan. Raw. I got a LOADED Genesis for thousands less than i paid for a base Sport Z. Not quite as fun to drive but it is MUCH more comfortable in every way, plus its still PRETTY fun to mess around in.


I've driven many a Genny. I like them. If I had a G in my sights? I'd take a long look at the Genny for sure. No Question. But there isn't anyyy argument, the Z is better than both cars performance wise. (Having owned 2 G'S).
Like I said... The Genny is pseudo comp. If Nissan made our cars stand out a little more in terms of quality and features? The Genny- Z argument would be non- existent. There's no comparison. Not even to an infiniti G.

kenchan 08-14-2015 04:43 PM

i seriously dont give a shittt wat hyundai wants to do. id grab a C7 if not a Z.

DIGItonium 08-14-2015 04:48 PM

IMO, the Genesis Coupe is more of a direct competitor to the G37 Coupe.

roadrash666 08-14-2015 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by DIGItonium (Post 3285345)
IMO, the Genesis Coupe is more of a direct competitor to the G37 Coupe.

No. It's a not as nice, Korean knock off of a G. I test drove a 2012 mid level Genesis coupe (touring?) before I bought my G37 coupe. The Genesis is nice, but the G is that much nicer, and better looking IMO.

Firebase99 08-14-2015 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by roadrash666 (Post 3285449)
No. It's a not as nice, Korean knock off of a G. I test drove a 2012 mid level Genesis coupe (touring?) before I bought my G37 coupe. The Genesis is nice, but the G is that much nicer, and better looking IMO.

2012? The good ones came out in 13. Pre 13 I too scoffed. 13 and above is a whole different ball of wax. The Z is a sports car, through and through. The Genesis is a GT, no matter what flavor. And that is two different buyers. Having owned a 370 and trading it for a GC was the right move for me NOW. I get 90% of Z performance, 120% more comfortable DD. It's not for everyone but it's a hell of a bargain.

roadrash666 08-14-2015 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Firebase99 (Post 3285454)
2012? The good ones came out in 13. Pre 13 I too scoffed. 13 and above is a whole different ball of wax. The Z is a sports car, through and through. The Genesis is a GT, no matter what flavor. And that is two different buyers. Having owned a 370 and trading it for a GC was the right move for me NOW. I get 90% of Z performance, 120% more comfortable DD. It's not for everyone but it's a hell of a bargain.

My bad, it was a 2013. 3.8, 8speed auto, leather, NICE car. I was real close to buying it, then I drove the Infiniti. I'm not knocking the Hyundai at all, it just lacks a little refinement. As long as your car makes you happy that's all that matters.

Z_ealot 08-14-2015 07:15 PM

Heres my 2 cents...gen coupe is nice, my co worker has one and the interior is nice, but as for the 8 speed auto being smooth....no, just no, that thing hesitates like hell when you are just cruising at lower speeds and hesitates when you punch it and it's a very unpleasant feeling when it does so...also, this was a 2015 that i rode in quite a few times, maybe his has a problem but my first impression of the transmission is that they still havent fixed the issues with their transmissions

Firebase99 08-14-2015 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by roadrash666 (Post 3285459)
My bad, it was a 2013. 3.8, 8speed auto, leather, NICE car. I was real close to buying it, then I drove the Infiniti. I'm not knocking the Hyundai at all, it just lacks a little refinement. As long as your car makes you happy that's all that matters.

I test drive the Infiniti, it was, IMO, a smudge better inside, still lacked some of the tech I wanted though. A bit more comfy, maybe too comfy as it lacked a bit with the loud pedal. And it was like $12K more. So I found a happy medium. Now I'm looking 18 to 24 months down the road. I'm all over the Z35 threads, so if Nissan can make magic again I might be in one. Again. It'll be my 105th Z lol. Hyundai might be whopping up something special too with the next Gen Coupe. I say "let them fight." Good for the buyer.

UNKNOWN_370 08-14-2015 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by roadrash666 (Post 3285449)
No. It's a not as nice, Korean knock off of a G. I test drove a 2012 mid level Genesis coupe (touring?) before I bought my G37 coupe. The Genesis is nice, but the G is that much nicer, and better looking IMO.


It's still a direct competitor. Nicer is a subjective need. Not a performance disparity.

firulice 08-14-2015 11:26 PM

You could get a good look at a T-bone by sticking your head up a butchers ***... no...it's gotta be your bull

KngScottieV 08-15-2015 03:31 AM

I just can't stand the front end of the genesis. I looks like someone that chews with their mouth open.

buenor 08-15-2015 06:18 AM

Speaking out of personal experience, I'm glad I'm in my 370. I had a Genesis 3.8 with everything you could ever want. It's just that I wouldn't trust it at all. I had it for the minimum time possible and as soon as I could get rid of it, I did. Damn the money lost on depreciation (a much more meaningful statement if anyone realizes how cheap I can be). The Genesis just didn't feel "tight" if you will, all the elements that it should have were there but somehow they never worked together to add confidence. It did have a good warranty though, it needed it. It went back for one reason or another every few weeks.

littlejuanito 08-15-2015 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by buenor (Post 3285736)
Speaking out of personal experience, I'm glad I'm in my 370. I had a Genesis 3.8 with everything you could ever want. It's just that I wouldn't trust it at all. I had it for the minimum time possible and as soon as I could get rid of it, I did. Damn

How long did you have it for ?

The BlueMax 08-15-2015 11:38 AM

The Comparison
 
I would of considered the Gen. just like the G37 but coupe lacked some of Nissan’s refinement overall, and the G37 wasn’t worth the extra money when you considered it looked more Lexus like than the G35, including a interior that was a little dated. Footnote wise here: Hyundai engineers promised a V8 right before the coupe was released and it never happen, it would of persuaded me much further had they kept their promise, just think how many Mustang and Camaro owners would reacted.

Blk_Z34 08-15-2015 12:30 PM

Before I got my '13 Z, I test-drove both. Genesis wasn't too bad: liked the exhaust noise a lot, the price even with nav + sunroof(Z does not offer) + leather seats. The 6 spd transmission felt kinda rubbery and the styling is...either like it or hate it.

Despite of all that, I wasn't sold and still chose the Z because it has the car's history, the styling, the performance, the value and the fact that I owned Z31 and Z32 in the past.

I am still happy with my decision after 2.5 years.:rofl2::driving:

UNKNOWN_370 08-15-2015 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by firulice (Post 3285580)
You could get a good look at a T-bone by sticking your head up a butchers ***... no...it's gotta be your bull

We're not on a meat forum. Keep your posts relevant.

:wtf2:

UNKNOWN_370 08-15-2015 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by The BlueMax (Post 3285866)
I would of considered the Gen. just like the G37 but coupe lacked some of Nissan’s refinement overall, and the G37 wasn’t worth the extra money when you considered it looked more Lexus like than the G35, including a interior that was a little dated. Footnote wise here: Hyundai engineers promised a V8 right before the coupe was released and it never happen, it would of persuaded me much further had they kept their promise, just think how many Mustang and Camaro owners would reacted.

It wasn't exactly promised. They attempted to transversely fit the v8 in for production. It hindered performance. Putting it in longitudinally didn't fit. Rhys Millen team built a rear engine version. Too costly. It would've been a $70,000 car. They tried, which is more than I can say for Nissan, as of lately. Unfortunately, making a v8 coupe wasn't a thought till the market began asking for it.

Firebase99 08-15-2015 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 3285922)
It wasn't exactly promised. They attempted to transversely fit the v8 in for production. It hindered performance. Putting it in longitudinally didn't fit. Rhys Millen team built a rear engine version. Too costly. It would've been a $70,000 car. They tried, which is more than I can say for Nissan, as of lately. Unfortunately, making a v8 coupe wasn't a thought till the market began asking for it.

The rumor mill over the Genny forum is almost as crazy as the Z35 stuff here. A concept coupe debuted a few days ago. It's enormous. Big v8, looks like a Bentley. Glad it's just a concept.

joseZhartford 08-15-2015 08:39 PM

he missed something he didnt say the z looks alot better than the genesis coupe

Whtciv2k 08-27-2015 12:12 PM

I've owned a 2006 g35 coupe, 2012 Genesis coupe 3.8 track and now I have a 370z so I definitely know these cars well. I can say that the genesis coupe definitely feels like a g35/370z but it's just not as crisp. the shifting is not as sharp, the clutch doesn't feel as smooth and the steering isn't as clean. anyway, both are great cars. I miss my genny coupe but I got married and bought my wife a 2014 MDX and started driving her 2012 Elantra. traded the Elantra for the 2016 base Z. my morning commute just got a hell of a lot more fun.:driving:


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