2015 370z vs 2015 Hyundai genesis coupe r-spec

The BlueMax · 09-02-2015, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Whtciv2k

Please don't compare a 370z to a porsche. if you've ever driven one, you know, they're porsches and in a league of their own.

you are right though, aesthetically, they do look quite similar.

The only reason I brought up the porsche 944 is because someone triad to compare the 370 to a cayman and I thought they were way off base, but I stand by my statement of comparison to the 370 being an modern asian 944.

Chad11491 · 09-02-2015, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by The BlueMax

The only reason I brought up the porsche 944 is because someone triad to compare the 370 to a cayman and I thought they were way off base, but I stand by my statement of comparison to the 370 being an modern asian 944.

I mainly lurk to keep up with the Z, but man, I'd rather have a Z than a Porsche any day. I had a 280zx with full suspension and built motor and a minty fresh 1985.5 944 with 50k miles on it and all the options. My Z was a miles better car, and still quicker and loads more fun than the Porsche while stock. After the upgrades it blew it away in every regard as far as driving. I sold the 944 for what I had in it in about 6 months. But my old Z is still my favorite car I've ever had. The Z's have personality and character while P cars are slightly "soulless". I look forward to the next Z and hope to be in one if it's any good

Firebase99 · 09-03-2015, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Chad11491

I mainly lurk to keep up with the Z, but man, I'd rather have a Z than a Porsche any day. I had a 280zx with full suspension and built motor and a minty fresh 1985.5 944 with 50k miles on it and all the options. My Z was a miles better car, and still quicker and loads more fun than the Porsche while stock. After the upgrades it blew it away in every regard as far as driving. I sold the 944 for what I had in it in about 6 months. But my old Z is still my favorite car I've ever had. The Z's have personality and character while P cars are slightly "soulless". I look forward to the next Z and hope to be in one if it's any good

While I agree with you about a 280 vs a 944 driving dynamics and fun factor a 911 is COMPLETELY different ball game in EVERY aspect.

jchammond · 08-29-2015, 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

We've hit there's when the stagnant base/sport 370z will be compared to the ever-evolving Hyundai Genesis coupe R-Spec. Both make similar numbers at similar prices. Sell about the same in numbers. Our cars hands down are the real drivers cars of the group. But truth is... If we evolved the Z at an equal rate as a Hyundai Genesis coupe. This review would've not sounded anything like this.

Areas we should have been progressing.

1. Updating our interiors with more features and better materials.
2. An LSD throughout the range. This should never have been an issue.
3. The base stereo... SERIOUSLY! SMH

These areas sound small but keeps our cars from competing with cars it shouldn't be compared to.

How'd this POS make it on a 370Z forum page,,,LMAO-cars don't compare/370 is a sports car & idk what the huyndai is? if i wanted a back seat i'd bought a different car....i'm 6'6" 285lbs & drive my ~Z~ 100miles + a day,,,very comfortable for me & plenty of power to (can't say it) my 2 cent's....i may jusy be an old 48yr. old fart;but i'm a die hard Chevy man & my ~Z~ has more leg room & (i can't say it) the ~Z~cars are in a class by themselves!!!

UNKNOWN_370 · 08-30-2015, 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by jchammond

How'd this POS make it on a 370Z forum page,,,LMAO-cars don't compare/370 is a sports car & idk what the huyndai is? if i wanted a back seat i'd bought a different car....i'm 6'6" 285lbs & drive my ~Z~ 100miles + a day,,,very comfortable for me & plenty of power to (can't say it) my 2 cent's....i may jusy be an old 48yr. old fart;but i'm a die hard Chevy man & my ~Z~ has more leg room & (i can't say it) the ~Z~cars are in a class by themselves!!!

Until next generation, when the Z becomes a three door Juke with a 240hp 1.8L turbo and the Hyundai is an actual coupe with a 3.3 litre turbo and 420hp. SMH
Everybody disses Hyundai Kia... But they have
Real shifting AT's in their vehicles, not CVT's
They get real LSD's for track duty
They been having a strong line of turbo engines since 2012.

Hyundai is NOT FAR BEHIND from Nissan. And there advantage potential in the near future is higher than ours. While currently behind in chassis rigidity they are about to change generations. Then what?

Once they go all aluminum forged suspension, get ecu programming right and get Downshift Rev-Matching. They will become REAL COMPETITION. What if they get a Rays contract too or a formidable wheel company next gen? The 2.0 is coming back next gen with over 300hp and Kia will have a comparable coupe. Hyundai is making strides while we're falling into generics. I'd rock the optima before my altima if I was buying today?

Hyundai's new slogan should be...

Hyundai...
"Laugh at us now, cry later."

Nissan's slogan will be...
Nissan...
"Turning track legends into cute ute's"

My point to this thread was if Nissan would update our cars properly, this comparo wouldn't even exist. But Nissan doesnt. So here it is. The stark reality that Nissan is slippin'. I'm a Chevy/Nissan guy as well when talking sub-premium. But I accept reality that my car company doesn't have it together except for the GT-R. And even that one is kinda long in the tooth.

BuddyLee · 08-30-2015, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

Until next generation, when the Z becomes a three door Juke with a 240hp 1.8L turbo and the Hyundai is an actual coupe with a 3.3 litre turbo and 420hp. SMH
Everybody disses Hyundai Kia... But they have
Real shifting AT's in their vehicles, not CVT's
They get real LSD's for track duty
They been having a strong line of turbo engines since 2012.

Hyundai is NOT FAR BEHIND from Nissan. And there advantage potential in the near future is higher than ours. While currently behind in chassis rigidity they are about to change generations. Then what?

Once they go all aluminum forged suspension, get ecu programming right and get Downshift Rev-Matching. They will become REAL COMPETITION. What if they get a Rays contract too or a formidable wheel company next gen? The 2.0 is coming back next gen with over 300hp and Kia will have a comparable coupe. Hyundai is making strides while we're falling into generics. I'd rock the optima before my altima if I was buying today?

Hyundai's new slogan should be...

Hyundai...
"Laugh at us now, cry later."

Nissan's slogan will be...
Nissan...
"Turning track legends into cute ute's"

My point to this thread was if Nissan would update our cars properly, this comparo wouldn't even exist. But Nissan doesnt. So here it is. The stark reality that Nissan is slippin'. I'm a Chevy/Nissan guy as well when talking sub-premium. But I accept reality that my car company doesn't have it together except for the GT-R. And even that one is kinda long in the tooth.

The Genesis will still be everything I'm not looking for in a sports car, and my 370z will still be superior in every aspect that counts, to me personally.

The only other vehicle I would consider trading for my Z costs over double the price, and is German. And I still think the Z has superior styling.

UNKNOWN_370 · 09-01-2015, 02:21 AM

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Originally Posted by BuddyLee

The Genesis will still be everything I'm not looking for in a sports car, and my 370z will still be superior in every aspect that counts, to me personally.

The only other vehicle I would consider trading for my Z costs over double the price, and is German. And I still think the Z has superior styling.

So you're saying next generation you'll be looking for a ZUV as your next sports car?

If the next gen Z is a SUV? I'm going upmarket anyway. I'm just waiting for a couple more cars to be intro'd before I plunge. Like the turbo line up of Porsche's the AMG GT, the Camaro Mustang showdown and at least see the Z concept before I buy.

If Hyundai puts out a 3,400Lb 420+hp car... forged aluminum suspension with all the right bits. I'll be interested.

And Hyundai had the Genesis coupe on the Rhys Millen racing team. It's making strides. All car companies start somewhere... Hyundai has had a stronger beginning than most first time RWD Sports cars.

BuddyLee · 09-01-2015, 03:17 AM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

So you're saying next generation you'll be looking for a ZUV as your next sports car?

If the next gen Z is a SUV? I'm going upmarket anyway. I'm just waiting for a couple more cars to be intro'd before I plunge. Like the turbo line up of Porsche's the AMG GT, the Camaro Mustang showdown and at least see the Z concept before I buy.

If Hyundai puts out a 3,400Lb 420+hp car... forged aluminum suspension with all the right bits. I'll be interested.

And Hyundai had the Genesis coupe on the Rhys Millen racing team. It's making strides. All car companies start somewhere... Hyundai has had a stronger beginning than most first time RWD Sports cars.

Porche Cayman.

I already have the only suv worth owning, a 1974 fj40 Land Cruiser.

FiftyFiv3 · 08-30-2015, 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

Until next generation, when the Z becomes a three door Juke with a 240hp 1.8L turbo and the Hyundai is an actual coupe with a 3.3 litre turbo and 420hp. SMH
Everybody disses Hyundai Kia... But they have
Real shifting AT's in their vehicles, not CVT's
They get real LSD's for track duty
They been having a strong line of turbo engines since 2012.

Hyundai is NOT FAR BEHIND from Nissan. And there advantage potential in the near future is higher than ours. While currently behind in chassis rigidity they are about to change generations. Then what?

Once they go all aluminum forged suspension, get ecu programming right and get Downshift Rev-Matching. They will become REAL COMPETITION. What if they get a Rays contract too or a formidable wheel company next gen? The 2.0 is coming back next gen with over 300hp and Kia will have a comparable coupe. Hyundai is making strides while we're falling into generics. I'd rock the optima before my altima if I was buying today?

Hyundai's new slogan should be...

Hyundai...
"Laugh at us now, cry later."

Nissan's slogan will be...
Nissan...
"Turning track legends into cute ute's"

My point to this thread was if Nissan would update our cars properly, this comparo wouldn't even exist. But Nissan doesnt. So here it is. The stark reality that Nissan is slippin'. I'm a Chevy/Nissan guy as well when talking sub-premium. But I accept reality that my car company doesn't have it together except for the GT-R. And even that one is kinda long in the tooth.

The pedigree and progression of the Z speaks volumes. I hear what you're saying but hyundai has a very limited history. Give it time and yes I believe they can be a formidable brand. Hey quick question, how is there motorsports division doing?

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UNKNOWN_370 · 09-01-2015, 02:17 AM

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Originally Posted by FiftyFiv3

The pedigree and progression of the Z speaks volumes. I hear what you're saying but hyundai has a very limited history. Give it time and yes I believe they can be a formidable brand. Hey quick question, how is there motorsports division doing?

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Sometimes history means something. In the context of what's currently happening. It doesn't mean shyt.

How can anyone justify a Z cute ute rumor for the future??? How does heritage play into a mini SUV Z?Anyone??? That's like building a truck and calling it a motorcycle. Where would be the philosophy of heritage in a SUV CROSSOVER??? Dwell on the past you may. But I'm looking at what Nissan is planning tomorrow, not what they did yesterday. I own a Z today. What will I own tomorrow? Does Nissan care about our opinions enough to make what we want?

That's the issue at hand

FiftyFiv3 · 09-01-2015, 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

Sometimes history means something. In the context of what's currently happening. It doesn't mean shyt.

How can anyone justify a Z cute ute rumor for the future??? How does heritage play into a mini SUV Z?Anyone??? That's like building a truck and calling it a motorcycle. Where would be the philosophy of heritage in a SUV CROSSOVER??? Dwell on the past you may. But I'm looking at what Nissan is planning tomorrow, not what they did yesterday. I own a Z today. What will I own tomorrow? Does Nissan care about our opinions enough to make what we want?

That's the issue at hand

At this point a rumor and only a rumor. I'll agree with you when it's news.

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Firebase99 · 08-30-2015, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

Until next generation, when the Z becomes a three door Juke with a 240hp 1.8L turbo and the Hyundai is an actual coupe with a 3.3 litre turbo and 420hp. SMH
Everybody disses Hyundai Kia... But they have
Real shifting AT's in their vehicles, not CVT's
They get real LSD's for track duty
They been having a strong line of turbo engines since 2012.

Hyundai is NOT FAR BEHIND from Nissan. And there advantage potential in the near future is higher than ours. While currently behind in chassis rigidity they are about to change generations. Then what?

Once they go all aluminum forged suspension, get ecu programming right and get Downshift Rev-Matching. They will become REAL COMPETITION. What if they get a Rays contract too or a formidable wheel company next gen? The 2.0 is coming back next gen with over 300hp and Kia will have a comparable coupe. Hyundai is making strides while we're falling into generics. I'd rock the optima before my altima if I was buying today?

Hyundai's new slogan should be...

Hyundai...
"Laugh at us now, cry later."

Nissan's slogan will be...
Nissan...
"Turning track legends into cute ute's"

My point to this thread was if Nissan would update our cars properly, this comparo wouldn't even exist. But Nissan doesnt. So here it is. The stark reality that Nissan is slippin'. I'm a Chevy/Nissan guy as well when talking sub-premium. But I accept reality that my car company doesn't have it together except for the GT-R. And even that one is kinda long in the tooth.

Here!! Here!! Well said. IMO having the 2nd generation Genesis and '13 Z I don't THINK the Hyundai is a better car. What I do KNOW is the Z DOES outperform it in pretty much every notable comparison. But not by much. Given that and the price difference along with all the tech you get for that money makes it a better value. Plus it's more comfortable on a crazy commute for daily driving.

2009_370z · 08-31-2015, 12:23 PM

Is it bad that I like BOTH my Z and the Gen Coupe..?

mishuko · 08-31-2015, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by 2009_370z

Is it bad that I like BOTH my Z and the Gen Coupe..?

yep and now you're so reported!

Whtciv2k · 09-01-2015, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by 2009_370z

Is it bad that I like BOTH my Z and the Gen Coupe..?

Not at all. both are sweet cars for sure that are tailored for different audiences. HOnestly, if you asked me to buy a Hyundai 10 years ago, I would have laughed. Things are different now. after having owned one for 2.5 years and putting about 80k miles on the car and really getting to know it, Hyundai really stepped up their game. I tell my wife all the time that the 2 cars I miss the most are the '09 civic SI I had and my 2012 Genesis. I'll list some of the cars I owned that I compared to.

2000 civic EX (auto)
2003 Accord V6 EX-L coupe (6MT)
2004 Acura TL Tech (6MT)
2006 G35 coupe (6MT)
2009 civic SI (6MT)
2012 Genesis coupe 3.8 Track (6MT)
2012 Hyundai Elantra Sedan Limited (auto) - (wife's car, sold my 2012 genesis and bough her the MDX when we got hitched)
2014 MDX SH-AWD Tech
2016 370z Base (6MT)

I've put 100,000 miles or more on each vehicle except for the 2 newest I listed and all were bought new.

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