Woman charged in fatal 370z crash caught on dash cam

37zeroZ · 07-18-2015, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Zbrah

The cops would have agreed with you guys if it wasn't for teh videoz! lol Thank God they didn't. At least we learn some part of law enforcement is still working in this country.

Yeah, every case the cops and the DA put forth are always right.

Zbrah · 07-18-2015, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by 37zeroZ

Yeah, every case the cops and the DA put forth are always right.

And did I ever said that?

Zbrah · 07-18-2015, 03:58 PM

And it's the people like you two guys who choose to ignore evidence presented (OJ rings a bell) that we have law breaking motherfuckers walking free and thinking there are no consequences for their actions

cooltoy · 07-18-2015, 03:59 PM

All the Z driver had to do is stay in her lane or go to the right and this would not have happened. It' s the old - if you want to miss something don't stare at it.

JC-Nismo · 07-18-2015, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Zbrah

And it's the people like you two guys who choose to ignore evidence presented (OJ rings a bell) that we have law breaking motherfuckers walking free and thinking there are no consequences for their actions

Ignore evidence??? The evidence is clear as day!!! The cops aren't saints and a lot of laws ALLOW people to walk not us TWO GUYS!!!

37zeroZ · 07-18-2015, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Zbrah

And it's the people like you two guys who choose to ignore evidence presented (OJ rings a bell) that we have law breaking motherfuckers walking free and thinking there are no consequences for their actions

WTF you talking about. OJ - without doubt - should of been been found guilty.

This case is totally different. Sure, the Z driver was driving over the speed limit, but she should not of been charged due to the van driver not yielding to oncoming traffic.

37zeroZ · 07-18-2015, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by cooltoy

All the Z driver had to do is stay in her lane or go to the right and this would not have happened. It' s the old - if you want to miss something don't stare at it.

In hindsight, yes. However, the Z driver reacted like a majority of people would have by swerving away to avoid an accident. Not much time to think, but it's instinct to veer away from a potential collision.

Maybe she didn't have the online gaming, Xbox and/or PlayStation skills like some here have.

1087 · 07-18-2015, 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by cooltoy

All the Z driver had to do is stay in her lane or go to the right and this would not have happened. It' s the old - if you want to miss something don't stare at it.

Very well said, did you noticed that she did not attempt to brake at all?

Zbrah · 07-18-2015, 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by JC-Nismo

Ignore evidence??? The evidence is clear as day!!! The cops aren't saints and a lot of laws ALLOW people to walk not us TWO GUYS!!!

What's clear as day is the Z recklessly speeding through the lanes, putting her in the position to crash into the van. But you choose not to accept this fact because the evidence doesn't support your views in this case.

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Originally Posted by 37zeroZ

WTF you talking about. OJ - without doubt - should of been been found guilty.

This case is totally different. Sure, the Z driver was driving over the speed limit, but she should not of been charged due to the van driver not yielding to oncoming traffic.

I am talking about you two ignoring evidence that the Z driver's reckless action caused the accident. The Z shouldn't have been in that spot if it hadn't been driving like a maniac. What's funny is you two keep insisting that the van did not yield without any facts to prove whether she did or did not

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Originally Posted by 37zeroZ

In hindsight, yes. However, the Z driver reacted like a majority of people would have by swerving away to avoid an accident. Not much time to think, but it's instinct to veer away from a potential collision.

Maybe she didn't have the online gaming, Xbox and/or PlayStation skills like some here have.

And why did she not have enough time to react? Oh yea, she driving way too fast and wasn't paying attention to the road. The bitch was too busy talking on her phone! She should have been home playing her Xbox instead of out on the road killing people

Magic Bus · 07-18-2015, 04:53 PM

Unfortunately this thread looks like it may become a shouting match at each other. I'd like to attempt to diffuse that and add in some logical thought here. Please review below.

Car Accidents Caused by Negligence | Nolo.com

Key provisions to read for the defendant, in this case, the Z driver. "Duty of reasonable care" and "breaching". Also take special note of "reasonable person" definition.

One of the questions we need to ask ourselves is, would a "reasonable person" drive 65+ mph on a 35 mph road, with many side streets, weave through traffic and talk on their cell phone at the same time. I know I would not and I'm guessing 90% plus on this forum would not as well.

Now lets address the claim that the van did not stop properly, please remember that the van and the car to the right of it entered that intersection at the same time. Both of them were not expecting a car to be weaving and speeding at 65 mph+ on that street. IMO that's evidence that would lean heavily in the favor of the van driver and the car turning right acted in a reasonable manner. Much more so than an individual speeding, weaving, cell phone talking driver.

37zeroZ · 07-18-2015, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by 1087

Very well said, did you noticed that she did not attempt to brake at all?

I've been in situations where I've accelerated and braked to avoid accidents. Each time I had no accident. Who's to know if either would of turned out different if I done the opposite.

rooftop · 07-18-2015, 05:12 PM

Bad news

Zbrah · 07-18-2015, 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by 37zeroZ

I've been in situations where I've accelerated and braked to avoid accidents. Each time I had no accident. Who's to know if either would of turned out different if I done the opposite.

Cool story brah! How is it anyway related to this situation?

can we get back to why you think the Z is not responsible for the wreck?

37zeroZ · 07-18-2015, 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Zbrah

Cool story brah! How is it anyway related to this situation?

can we get back to why you think the Z is not responsible for the wreck?

Hey brah brah....lol.

I answered the man's question. You know where I stand so what's your point questioning my reasoning where I stand. Each of us have opinions, so God Bless America!!! If this offends you, so sorry.

Zbrah · 07-18-2015, 05:46 PM

Not offense taken at all! It's slow Saturday here, just trying to carry on the topic lol

07-18-2015, 03:58 PM	#63 (permalink)
Zbrah A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2013 Location: The370Z.com Posts: 4,956 Drives: 370Z Rep Power: 5451	And it's the people like you two guys who choose to ignore evidence presented (OJ rings a bell) that we have law breaking motherfuckers walking free and thinking there are no consequences for their actions __________________

07-18-2015, 03:59 PM	#64 (permalink)
cooltoy Elite Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Calgary Posts: 13,942 Drives: 14 PW 370Z S/T MT Rep Power: 240365	All the Z driver had to do is stay in her lane or go to the right and this would not have happened. It' s the old - if you want to miss something don't stare at it. __________________ Member of kenchan's "photoshopped mods" and "proper offsets" gang.

07-18-2015, 04:53 PM	#70 (permalink)
Magic Bus A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2012 Location: Honolulu Posts: 1,427 Drives: 17 6MT M2 Rep Power: 18754	Unfortunately this thread looks like it may become a shouting match at each other. I'd like to attempt to diffuse that and add in some logical thought here. Please review below. Car Accidents Caused by Negligence \| Nolo.com Key provisions to read for the defendant, in this case, the Z driver. "Duty of reasonable care" and "breaching". Also take special note of "reasonable person" definition. One of the questions we need to ask ourselves is, would a "reasonable person" drive 65+ mph on a 35 mph road, with many side streets, weave through traffic and talk on their cell phone at the same time. I know I would not and I'm guessing 90% plus on this forum would not as well. Now lets address the claim that the van did not stop properly, please remember that the van and the car to the right of it entered that intersection at the same time. Both of them were not expecting a car to be weaving and speeding at 65 mph+ on that street. IMO that's evidence that would lean heavily in the favor of the van driver and the car turning right acted in a reasonable manner. Much more so than an individual speeding, weaving, cell phone talking driver. Zbrah likes this.

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rooftop A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: roof Age: 13 Posts: 5,704 Drives: 🔰 Rep Power: 129042	Bad news __________________

07-18-2015, 05:46 PM	#75 (permalink)
Zbrah A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2013 Location: The370Z.com Posts: 4,956 Drives: 370Z Rep Power: 5451	Not offense taken at all! It's slow Saturday here, just trying to carry on the topic lol __________________

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