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Originally Posted by Gerg I'm still trying to figure out how Nissan designed such a beautiful car inside and out, and still left such glaring oversights after the first year

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Old 06-22-2015, 06:37 AM   #31 (permalink)
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I'm still trying to figure out how Nissan designed such a beautiful car inside and out, and still left such glaring oversights after the first year model was released and the issues in the dash became apparent.

1. The ill-fitting fuel/gauge display to the left of the tach.
2. The more or less useless applications for the three gauges over the center column: Oil temp, battery charge (really?!), and digital clock (that can't even be adjusted to military time...weak).

Speaking of the latter of those points, does anyone make a good DIY or swap out for those gauges? For the boosters out there, it would seem a great place for PSI indicators, and for the rest of us, I'm sure that we could find something more fitting. Heck, my old '84 300zx had a digital compass that I used WAY more than I'll ever use that battery charge display.
Just swapped the triple meter OEM gauge

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While some of what you said makes sense, some does not, if they listened, the CSC would have been fixed with the 350, however they did do a recall on the SL...
the Z car represents a small slice of the nissan's profit. moreover, we as a group enthusiasts, who know about the CSC "weakness" are an even smaller portion of that pie. (i.e. I don't think the problem is effecting nissan's sales).

as a percent of cars sold (350z & 370z). how many have had CSC failures? in manufacturing you will always tolerate a certain defect rate. i would assume the CSC failure didn't surpass their threshold. nissan is a company interested in making money. if 98% of the time the CSC doesn't fail under warranty, why would would they care?

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overall i feel fortunate that nissan has even bothered to continue with the Z all these years, while other japanese brands dropped their sports cars or made sad attempts/compromises to make sporty cars. our cup is more than half full as Z enthusiasts.

don't like the sound? change the exhaust
not enough power? turbo/supercharge it
don't like the gauges? rip them out and throw something that works for you
your CSC busted? get your *** under there and change it out for something stronger or throw a Z1 elimination kit on there.
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what sports car under $100K has everything you want from factory? go to any car forum and you will find guys complaining about something that the factory didn't get right. hell, i'd argue that there are things i'd want to change about ANY car, regardless of price. then again, i am just that type of guy.
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I love love love my z. and I’ve owned 2 porsches, a bimmer and a turbo supra. Sure no car is perfect. No one will ever make a car to please everyone or even totally please one person. But fun-wise I love it.
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2. The more or less useless applications for the three gauges over the center column: Oil temp, battery charge (really?!), and digital clock (that can't even be adjusted to military time...weak).
Wait, why would you *not* want an oil temp gauge?
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I love driving mine, but HATE the mileage going up, who ever thought of the odometer is an A$$. that is all.


I love my car, I will never get ride of it. However it is a mass produced "budget" sports car that I wish some things could have been done better from the start so I wouldn't have to invest more into it after I bought it. First, paint, never seen such thin paint on a car. You need to get a clear bra or you needed to be saving up the paint the front end years down the road. Second, poor fuel tank design. I never had any car where I had to start to plan to get gas at a half tank because half is actually 1/4 or 1/3 of a tank. Finally, even though I personally have not had this problem yet (knock on wood), the clutch system could be improved.

Final thoughts, the oil cooler system be it the oil to water system or the one on the review test model should have been there from the start. And the audio system or "upgraded" Bose system are just travesties. The stock audio system is so out dated and poor quality they would be better off with a hole in the dash.

Oh almost forgot about the steering lock issue, that was just pure fail on Nissan part, they should just have issued a TSB or pull the fuse and be done with it.
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Wait, why would you *not* want an oil temp gauge?
to prevent unnecessary anxiety?
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No complaints here, i love my Z flaws and all
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really? i hate my z flaws but like the rest of the car.
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The Z is a great infiniti parts bin sports car. Well made but Nissan overlooked some things and there are some gaps in performance quality for this caliber car in the price range. That said. No car in the price range still compares. It's attributes outweigh its flaws
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I'm still trying to figure out how Nissan designed such a beautiful car inside and out, and still left such glaring oversights after the first year model was released and the issues in the dash became apparent.

1. The ill-fitting fuel/gauge display to the left of the tach.
2. The more or less useless applications for the three gauges over the center column: Oil temp, battery charge (really?!), and digital clock (that can't even be adjusted to military time...weak).

Speaking of the latter of those points, does anyone make a good DIY or swap out for those gauges? For the boosters out there, it would seem a great place for PSI indicators, and for the rest of us, I'm sure that we could find something more fitting. Heck, my old '84 300zx had a digital compass that I used WAY more than I'll ever use that battery charge display.
Agreed, that dumb humungous AM PM clock, bloody LOLzzz.

Clock should have been oil pressure to compliment other two dials.
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2. they are, but blind spots and thats where the rear panel window comes into play.
Are you sure? The "official" manner of adjustment has changed.

How To: Adjust Your Mirrors to Avoid Blind Spots - Feature - Car and Driver

Now they recommend adjusting the mirrors almost all the way outward on both sides. The adjustment is based on the idea that on either edge of your rear-view mirror you should see half a vehicle, and in the associated side mirror you should see the other half of that vehicle. You should not be able to see a large overlap, or any of the vehicle behind you in either side mirror. You should not be able to see the side of the car at all.

I tried this, and son of a gun, it works. Adjusted this way you can see a vehicle in your side mirror all the way until you can see it in your peripheral vision. I've adjusted my Roadster's mirrors in this manner, and there is no blind spot at all.
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Wait, why would you *not* want an oil temp gauge?
i've always wondered how hot the 350Z's oil got. my 07 HR never went into limp mode and i drove that car like it was meant to be driven.

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Are you sure? The "official" manner of adjustment has changed.

How To: Adjust Your Mirrors to Avoid Blind Spots - Feature - Car and Driver

Now they recommend adjusting the mirrors almost all the way outward on both sides. The adjustment is based on the idea that on either edge of your rear-view mirror you should see half a vehicle, and in the associated side mirror you should see the other half of that vehicle. You should not be able to see a large overlap, or any of the vehicle behind you in either side mirror. You should not be able to see the side of the car at all.

I tried this, and son of a gun, it works. Adjusted this way you can see a vehicle in your side mirror all the way until you can see it in your peripheral vision. I've adjusted my Roadster's mirrors in this manner, and there is no blind spot at all.
my complaint regarding the rear quarter panel window wasn't so much for while driving in traffic, but rather when you have to park at an angle in a parking lot and you really needed to see outta that small window to see if a car was coming, while your mirrors were pretty much useless.
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my complaint regarding the rear quarter panel window wasn't so much for while driving in traffic, but rather when you have to park at an angle in a parking lot and you really needed to see outta that small window to see if a car was coming, while your mirrors were pretty much useless.
Yeah. Can't argue with that. I'd rather have the top down for something like that. The Roadster's quarter window is even smaller than that of the coupe.
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Yeah. Can't argue with that. I'd rather have the top down for something like that. The Roadster's quarter window is even smaller than that of the coupe.
LOL i just realized you have a roadster after looking at your profile pic.

and yes, the top coming down would make backing out of a spot (when parked at an angle) so much easier
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LOL i just realized you have a roadster after looking at your profile pic.

and yes, the top coming down would make backing out of a spot (when parked at an angle) so much easier
Anything backing up is a bear with the top up. The Roadster has a tiny rear window compared with the coupe, and no quarter windows at all.

The whole visibility thing is why I jumped on that new mirror setup when I found it. According to the article they came out with that in 1995 which makes "new" not all that new. Hey, who knew?
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