I am officially done caring until I see a concept.

That said, I highly doubt they will restructure the Z to compete with the twins. In 40+ years, every next gen Z has been faster than the last. I just don't see it.

if they go slower, or even stagnant i am going to wander back over to German car land. love both my Z's but looks only take me so far.

While the Z is a sharp car and all , the sport coupe market ain't what it used to be. Go to a nissan dealer and ask how many Nissan Quest or Maxima's they sell vs. a 370Z. probably 50 to 70-1,
I frequent a Nissan dealer and they have had the same Z's on the lot for several months...and it's not because people are waiting in the weeds to buy the "next" Z.
I also have an Honda product in my household...a visit there and I see the same Accord coupes sitting there collecting dust..if you talk to some maufacture heads...they'd assume get rid of the coupe market.
If Toyota thought for a second they could sell 500,000 Supra's a year , don't you think they would have it in their line-up ? although 1 is rumored to be in the makes , will not be a full Toyota..I believe BMW has their hands on it...and it will be expensive as hell and they will make 20,000 ?? good luck getting one.
Coupe market has diminished over the years...that is why there is a handful of offerings these days...
Enjoy what you got ...I am !

how much threads i have been subscribed to see the same sh!t hahahhaa!! well here is another one:rolleyes: I just hope Nissan made another Z someday... It would be interesting...

Well said. The problem is not the technology, the issue is the market and whether it's worth Nissan's time and money. My guess is that Nissan makes very little money, if any, off the Z line. Under Renault's management, Nissan's bread and butter has become selling Altimas, Sentras and light trucks in Asian. I wouldn't be surprised at all if Nissan drops the Z line all together in lieu of an Infiniti sports car and the GTR.

:tup:

While I'd like to see what the next-gen Z looks like, I'm happy with the one I have. If Nissan takes a break from them for a few years, then brings it back, I might get one then, who knows. :rolleyes:

ATM, my next car is going to be a 2018 Cayman S, painted Nissan Monterey Blue. I'd have gotten a Cayman when I got my Z, but I couldn't find a color that would stand out from the black, white, silver and champagne colored cars on the road. :eek:

To add insult to injury, when I was shopping cars, every sales clown at any GM stealership, wouldn't let me even test drive a used Vette. :icon14:

shocking pink will also stand out. :D

:ugh:

I agree and wouldn't mind a pause so I don't have to but a new Z and can continue playing with this one because I really like this thing. :happydance:

Ghostvette, 2018 Caymans maybe turbo 4's read it online, so I went to the local Porsche dealer on Friday to confirm. Take it for whatever it's worth but the sales person told me that was his understanding for model year 2017 & on. 2016 maybe the last model year for the boxster 6 engine in the Caymans.

let us know hahaha!!! i would be interesting :tup:

I'm okay with a turbo 4, as long as the power is there. If not, well, I guess it's off to the tune shop to squeeze out the horsepower and torque. :tup:

I know that 2017 is supposed to be the first year of the redesigned 911, Cayman & Boxster, so that's why I picked the 2018. It let's them get any 'bugs' worked out and it gives the aftermarket time to get goodies together.

Yes

Always. TSA has a no-fly list...

Mr. Kenchan has his Iggy List...

I have my "No-Rep" list...

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Yes supposed to have higher hp & tq than current 6.

Porsche's have some years where their cars become collectables, ex the last year of their air cooled models. 2016 N/A Caymans may fall in that category in the future. If it could fit two golf bags in it, I would seriously consider it.

Waiting for the 2nd year is never a bad thing. :tup:

where did UNKNOWN go? :ugh:

If this was a couple years ago. I'd have the whole forum cracking up from humiliating you and I'd be on my third ban. But I've calmed down since then.

Have a great day. :tiphat:

I have no idea. His location is unknown.

Miss me Kenchan? Lol

Well if I don't like the next gen Z, I'm going to throw caution to the wind, cash in one of my IRA's, and buy a fully optioned Jaguar F-Type R Coupe with a 550 hp supercharged V8. I figure the stock market is going to collapse again and I might as well lose the money on car depreciation and have something totally crazy like that for a few years and enjoy it.
I just turned 60 and I will never drive a grandpa car.

Get in a Taurus old man!!!! Lol. Just kidding. :tiphat:

Jaguar...one of the worst in terms of depreciation $$ in the luxury car segment...competing with Lincoln and Cadillac...if you want to loose money buy a Jag and trade it the next day...You'll loose 20-25k or more.

Good looking car though..

What most fail to see is, our Z from a mechanical standpoint, is an infiniti, parts bin car. We are on the FM platform like most infiniti's. We carry the same engine and transmission as most mass produced infiniti's. We make the shell and outsource wheels. Even the Sport brakes are infiniti carry overs with custom covers.

So how much can it really cost to build the Z. Nothing is unique in terms of parts. It's just a shortened G , M, EX and FX chassis that in total, sells over WELL OVER100,000 units annually combined. Then cars like the altima and sentra make enough money to help fund the Z's chassis customizing, track testing R&D The Z is no marvel of unique technology,. So making a sports car that only sells 5,000 units a year shouldn't be that big of a deal. It's built from bred and butter infiniti parts minus SRM and Rays wheels

That said,Nissan is full of shyt with this situation.

wow, props to you sir on being 60. that being said, i'm going through my mid-life crisis as we speak, as i just turned 30. (wtf, where did the time go!?!?!)

and if you plan on throwing money away, feel free to throw it my way! :tup:

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Yep, our engines aren't unique to an individual car per se, but rather same engine that's tuned differently for different cars.

Do like viewing his videos and reviews, although he seems a little batty to me. Yet, funny. Cute giggle , HAHA

What I like about him is, he's himself. He's just an enthusiasti giving an honest opinion. No bullshyt, No elitism. Just his real opinion.

I highly respect him and Sofyan Bey. If that's how u spell it. Everytime I see that dude in blue? I think I'm watching an episode of punked. Lol

Correct when compared to a Lincoln or Cadillac. But.... the F Type is the spiritual descendant of the XKE. No comparison with anything from Ford or GM. Well, maybe in V8 horsepower but certainly not in terms of looks, style, or class. I could lose 40% overnight in another market correction, or lose 40% of the same money but drive the Jag for 5 years. I'm sorely tempted to do something that some people would deem foolish. But dammit, I'll have fun.

Like JG Wentworth says. It's your money... Lol

I don't think this F-type will depreciate like the XK'a did. This car is a true competitor. Past cars weren't.

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Try being a Toyota fan....at least Nissan has a sports car in their current lineup.

It'll be a while before we see the "FT1"

This is the same story, with every manufacturer.

I used to have a WRX in the past, I've had Hondas, and even a lifted Jeep on big tires.

Everyone complains about their manufacturer. No one builds what the 'fans' want. Get over it :)

If you love the current Z so much, get a '15 or '16 with low miles at some point. They are never going to turn the Z into a 450hp twin turbo anything, its highly unlikely.

At some point in the future I'd replace my Z with perhaps a newer 5.0 Mustang, used GTR, C7 corvette, etc etc, theres a big list. Part of being an enthusiast, there's always many options out there with pro's and cons.

We don't really gotta get over shyt, homes. It was Infiniti that started the 400hp rumor and it trickled into the Z. At one point, the engines themselves were confirmed. Nissan claimed it would be Mercedes design but built in house. This was in fall of last year. That info was steady info for 8 months till the back to basics rumor resurfaced.

If half of you/y'all don't care? Ignore the thread. Some of us are really looking forward to a class competitive Z. Some of us wanted the turbos so we can cut mod costs in half, since the car itself already is a fairly large purchase for some... Some of us love the car to a fault. And yeah, some of us get mad at shytty flip floppy news...

:iagree: I think the Z is already competitive but if Nissan throw some TT from factory it would be a lot more just my 2cents!

:iagree: But future wise, cars are really bumping performance up and the Z is gonna need it little bag of tricks to stay competitive. F.I. would be trick one. If BMW can make the 228 class competitive? So can Nissan.

The 228 accelerates to 60 in the low 5', is modifiable and completely enthusiast friendly at 40k. Completely class competitive. If you're into modding? The 228 is a great platform. And we don't need all that luxury the BMW has in the Z So it's doable to create a hardcore sports car for reasonable cash.

Still talking / dreaming of a twin turbo v6 is not happening guys. We'll be lucky if Nissan even comes out with another sport car until 2019-2020. They're already getting left behind by ford, Mazda. Even Vw has a golf r coming out and Honda has a new civic si. There's a new Miata . New focus rs. So many segments Nissan is doing nothing in.

The only Z I'd trade for is a 370 Roadster with a GT-R engine.

I had a 280Z. The minute they put the X on the label they lost the look. Even the 280 bumpers sucked. From there all they did was cheese it up. I didn't care for the 300 or the 350. The 370 is dead sexy. I took one look and fell in love again. I can't see 'em getting better from here, at least for a few poor versions.

Is it possible they'll come out with a new hot Z? Perhaps. A guy with a large catapult told me pigs really can fly. I remain skeptical.

:iagree: but we can still dreaming about it :p

man if Nissan at least make the damn IDX Nismo.... I know they are going to get on the battle for the maket on FRS/BRZ, Miata, GTI, ETC... But at this point Nissan are not making any move :shakes head:

Every car you mentioned other than the Miata is a mass-produced vehicle. Those are just souped up variants of them. It's a lot easier for a company to justify making a hotter version of a mass selling vehicle from a business standpoint. The Z is a niche market vehicle that probably doesn't make Nissan much, if any money.

Just enjoy the car you drive and try not to get all wrapped up in it. :driving: