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OP, a few things: 1. if the cop wrote incorrect info on your ticket, a good lawyer will question the competency of the leo. 2. provided the leo got you

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Old 05-27-2015, 03:51 PM   #1 (permalink)
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OP, a few things:

1. if the cop wrote incorrect info on your ticket, a good lawyer will question the competency of the leo.
2. provided the leo got you with a laser radar gun, you could check public records whether the device was properly calibrated, which again, a good lawyer would eat up.
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OP, a few things:

1. if the cop wrote incorrect info on your ticket, a good lawyer will question the competency of the leo.
2. provided the leo got you with a laser radar gun, you could check public records whether the device was properly calibrated, which again, a good lawyer would eat up.
1) Which is garbage because ANYONE can make a mistake. This is why I have a strong dislike for defense attorneys.

2) Most newer LIDARs (laser) calibrate themselves when you turn them on. Also on LIDARs, calibration is literally pushing a button and waiting 5 seconds. Radars are just as easy.
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1) Which is garbage because ANYONE can make a mistake. This is why I have a strong dislike for defense attorneys.

2) Most newer LIDARs (laser) calibrate themselves when you turn them on. Also on LIDARs, calibration is literally pushing a button and waiting 5 seconds. Radars are just as easy.
You've left out one very important detail. When you put government and legalese (the language of lawyers) in anything you need to throw all semblance of common sense out the window and promptly dive after it, if only to ensure its demise.
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You've left out one very important detail. When you put government and legalese (the language of lawyers) in anything you need to throw all semblance of common sense out the window and promptly dive after it, if only to ensure its demise.
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1) Which is garbage because ANYONE can make a mistake. This is why I have a strong dislike for defense attorneys.

2) Most newer LIDARs (laser) calibrate themselves when you turn them on. Also on LIDARs, calibration is literally pushing a button and waiting 5 seconds. Radars are just as easy.
1. lets see how liberal you are if a doctor was to amputate the wrong limb. yes, anyone can make a mistake, however, leo are trained to pay attention to detail. if an leo cannot even get basic information, a good lawyer can and will argue the integrity and accuracy of the ticket itself.

2. true, but, not all states use the same radar gun. either way, there will be some record that the device has been calibrated. if this cannot be produced, a good lawyer can and will argue the validity of the ticket.
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1. lets see how liberal you are if a doctor was to amputate the wrong limb. yes, anyone can make a mistake, however, leo are trained to pay attention to detail. if an leo cannot even get basic information, a good lawyer can and will argue the integrity and accuracy of the ticket itself.

2. true, but, not all states use the same radar gun. either way, there will be some record that the device has been calibrated. if this cannot be produced, a good lawyer can and will argue the validity of the ticket.
Hahaha. Man you've got me pinned wrong. First off I'm pretty conservative. But at the same time I'm not an "azzhole" like JC says. People make mistakes. You're comparison of a doctor amputating the wrong limb is somewhat more extreme than writing a number or a letter down mistakenly. My point with that is, a defense attorney can knowingly defend someone who has murdered someone, or robbed someone, but then get the guy off on a technicality. If your or a loved one was a victim of a crime and their defense attorney got them off of an assault charge for a typo, you would be pretty angry.

So because this officer wrote down one digit wrong out of the guys license number, he is therefore proven incompetent for the entirety of the case? Lol give me a break.

I understand the calibration of the equipment. I'm just saying that you shouldn't bank on that because officers know that will get the ticket thrown out, therefore they will probably take the ~5 seconds to do it.
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People make mistakes. You're comparison of a doctor amputating the wrong limb is somewhat more extreme than writing a number or a letter down mistakenly. My point with that is, a defense attorney can knowingly defend someone who has murdered someone, or robbed someone, but then get the guy off on a technicality. If your or a loved one was a victim of a crime and their defense attorney got them off of an assault charge for a typo, you would be pretty angry.
Lol.. Bro.. Murder is also "extreme" (more so than amputation even) so.. Him speeding a little.. Really shouldn't be compared to any of that..

In my personal experience.. Cops have straight up lied.. I was speeding, cop pulls me over and gives me a reckless driving ticket.. When I read the ticket.. It said (I'm being serious here) that I was driving in such a reckless manor that cars were swerving off the road to avoid me crashing into them.. I couldn't believe it.. Had to get a lawyer and go through the court stuff.. In the end.. Cop agreed to reduce it to careless driving rather than reckless..

Bull f***ing shi*.. Had to pay court fees, lawyer, the ticket itself.. And had to do a ridiculous amount of community service hours..
All because the cop decided to lie and punish me for a more severe offense than what I had actually done..

Another incident.. Was speeding (82 on a 70).. Cop pulls me over.. Tells me I was doing 90.. I tell him I actually had cruise control set to 82 so I wasn't going 90.. His response.. "Oh.. So you're admitting to speeding then" gave me the ticket for 90.. This might seem negligible (90 rather than 82).. But it's not.. Going more than 15 mph over gets you points and therefore higher insurance rates.. So rather than paying it and that's it (what I deserved).. I had to do the whole driving school crap to avoid the points on my license.
Sorry.. I have no respect for cops
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Hahaha. Man you've got me pinned wrong. First off I'm pretty conservative. But at the same time I'm not an "azzhole" like JC says. People make mistakes. You're comparison of a doctor amputating the wrong limb is somewhat more extreme than writing a number or a letter down mistakenly. My point with that is, a defense attorney can knowingly defend someone who has murdered someone, or robbed someone, but then get the guy off on a technicality. If your or a loved one was a victim of a crime and their defense attorney got them off of an assault charge for a typo, you would be pretty angry.

So because this officer wrote down one digit wrong out of the guys license number, he is therefore proven incompetent for the entirety of the case? Lol give me a break.

I understand the calibration of the equipment. I'm just saying that you shouldn't bank on that because officers know that will get the ticket thrown out, therefore they will probably take the ~5 seconds to do it.
I'm confused. What does your point have to do with mine? That I would be angry because the OP was speeding?

The point of my analogy of wrong amputation vs speeding is the principle of attention to detail, and not so much of the level/degree of severity between the two. Both require specific attention to detail. If the leo writes inaccurate information on a citation, how much credibility do you think s/he will have in court? A decent lawyer can likely get a speeding ticket dismissed without any typos/inaccuracies, thus I'm pretty sure that a decent lawyer could get an inaccurate ticket dismissed, under what you stated as a "technicality", which btw you just proved my point to be valid (i.e. getting off on a technicality), after calling it "garbage".

And yes, all because one letter/number/character is off, a lawyer could use that and possibly get the ticket dismissed, as you have stated, on a technicality.

Sure, officers know to calibrate their equipment, as they are trained to do so. Officers are humans as well and can get complacent, and most importantly, as you also have stated, humans (which includes leo's) can make mistakes.
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Man, a bunch of tado about a ticket. When you get close to 15 points and on the verge of loosing your license. Then talk to me. Yeap, just a little bit crazier in my younger days...
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so it seems that the fairly consistent responses from cops in certain situations.

1) act like an arrogant douchebag leads to you getting nailed hard
2) show a little class and treat them like humans and you seem to get off with some leniancy

is this the start of the end? is this where we turn into my350z run by some punk arse kids who was able to scrape together some money with bank of ma and pa to get you some new toy that you don't deserve?

everyone has a bad experience now and then but here's the kicker.


GET OVER YOURSELF!
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