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Originally Posted by awesomez I have driven over 150+ different cars and I've had my license for 13 years. So yes that means I have driven my first manual with

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Old 10-22-2009, 03:23 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I have driven over 150+ different cars and I've had my license for 13 years. So yes that means I have driven my first manual with a booster seat. Yes I know what a sequential is, that's why I didn't say anything about sequential but about your belittling of modern auto transmissions.

I wouldn't touch the S word if I were you. I doubt you have anything to do with science, I would guess there is a good chance you believe in easter bunny.
Now THAT is opinion! and I would because you are not me... If you want to bring your car to a track I would be happy to show you how to drive. But making assumptions about my beliefs simply just shows me that you have nothing else to say about the point being discussed - you just want to show someone up on the internets... I understand that you have this dire need to show your dominance over all when it comes to your Auto Z- but I bet it wouldnt just end there...

I leave more science behind in tightly coil'd lumps each morning than you will ever know about in that quick to judge brain of yours... Be happy with your auto trans - but lets keep this discussion to point... which of course is regarding to the easter bunny - which I do happen to believe in (he actually is my uncle... and down here in rabbit land I am just about the only one who owns a Z)...

If you want to post some meaningful information regarding the original debate - please do... lets leave un-erudite guess about me and you out of it shall we?
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Again, I will reiterate...I fail to see how this has materialized into any sort of argument among enthusiasts, especially in the context of road-racing. This is indeed a first.

You can argue for days on the optional transmissions vs. standard manuals on other cars, from the SMG vs. 6-speed on the M5/M6, F1 vs. standard in Ferraris, to the DSG vs. 6-speed in a GTI, etc...the reason those comparisons are valid is because all the non-standard options aren't traditional automatics. Why are people so caught up on the 7AT? There is nothing special to it. So it blips on downshifts and shifts relatively quick...nothing groundbreaking for an automatic produced sometime within the last 10 years.

It’s funny how automakers can put paddles or buttons on the steering-wheel to shift an auto and fool people into thinking it’s any different than when you were manually shifting your mom’s '94 Camry when you were 16. Was there a similar auto vs. manual discussion for the 350Z?
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Again, I will reiterate...I fail to see how this has materialized into any sort of argument among enthusiasts, especially in the context of road-racing. This is indeed a first.

You can argue for days on the optional transmissions vs. standard manuals on other cars, from the SMG vs. 6-speed on the M5/M6, F1 vs. standard in Ferraris, to the DSG vs. 6-speed in a GTI, etc...the reason those comparisons are valid is because all the non-standard options aren't traditional automatics. Why are people so caught up on the 7AT? There is nothing special to it. So it blips on downshifts and shifts relatively quick...nothing groundbreaking for an automatic produced sometime within the last 10 years.

It’s funny how automakers can put paddles or buttons on the steering-wheel to shift an auto and fool people into thinking it’s any different than when you were manually shifting your mom’s '94 Camry when you were 16. Was there a similar auto vs. manual discussion for the 350Z?


Obviously, you've not driven the 370z with a 7AT, otherwise, you wouldn't make that kind of statement.

I explained it earlier, now, go out to a dealership, and drive one, and see for yourself.
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Again, I will reiterate...I fail to see how this has materialized into any sort of argument among enthusiasts, especially in the context of road-racing. This is indeed a first.

You can argue for days on the optional transmissions vs. standard manuals on other cars, from the SMG vs. 6-speed on the M5/M6, F1 vs. standard in Ferraris, to the DSG vs. 6-speed in a GTI, etc...the reason those comparisons are valid is because all the non-standard options aren't traditional automatics. Why are people so caught up on the 7AT? There is nothing special to it. So it blips on downshifts and shifts relatively quick...nothing groundbreaking for an automatic produced sometime within the last 10 years.

It’s funny how automakers can put paddles or buttons on the steering-wheel to shift an auto and fool people into thinking it’s any different than when you were manually shifting your mom’s '94 Camry when you were 16. Was there a similar auto vs. manual discussion for the 350Z?
Except the auto camary aint .4 sec.faster
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Except the auto camary aint .4 sec.faster
when you say .4 seconds faster, what are you referring to?
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I wouldn't touch the S word if I were you. I doubt you have anything to do with science, I would guess there is a good chance you believe in easter bunny.
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