Carrying a heavy passenger

vtec to vvel

f*ck that. would you really want to make your car work harder by carrying a fat@$$?

Tigger

Agreed. I don't like the decrease in performance either.

JARblue

lol the Z has plenty of power to handle a few extra pounds. Hell, much more power and you'll want the extra weight just to help put that power to the ground.

If you think you think you can feel the power drop off with a extra couple hundred pounds in the passenger seat then you're the same kind of person who claims to be able to feel a 10 hp gain on 330 hp, and I simply don't believe you

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Tigger

I'm so awesome I can feel the decrease in power from the reduced aerodynamics of a dirty car.

JARblue

However, I happen to know that you are awesome for other reasons

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vtec to vvel

I'm not the type to track my car. In fact, I'm not even the type to really try my car, but rather drive like a grandma. And regarding your comment about an extra 10 hp, no I wouldn't notice it.

However, I am the type that will know if the car is working harder because of extra weight. To me, extra weight = car works harder, strain on the car, bad gas mileage, extra wear on tires.

JARblue

No offense, but if bad gas mileage and extra tire wear are things that you are trying to avoid, then perhaps you are in the wrong car? I work the Z pretty hard on a daily basis. Much more so than just loading it up with an extra person. The extra weight and concerns you have aren't even on my radar. To each his own

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Tigger

Yup! Drive that bitch!

vtec to vvel

None taken, although I think you are mistaken as to what I was getting across. I'm not worried about mpg or other normal wear, keyword "normal". I'm not the type that wants to contribute to additional wear by other factors, such as carrying a big @$$ person in my car. Like you said, to each their own. You stated you work your car pretty hard, some people track their cars, and others drive it like a grandma. You have concerns of your car that IDGAF about, and vice versa. No harm, no foul.

JARblue

Well, I'm still a little confused of your point then. If you are driving the car "like a grandma", then I would argue you are not coming close to normal wear. It's designed to handle driving a little harder than grandma's driving. Also, the OM says 450 lb max for both passenger and driver. If you're under that, you should be within the limits of "normal" wear as defined by Nissan. So if you weigh 150 lbs, you should be able to carry a 300 lb passenger and not induce any additional wear (beyond "normal") on the vehicle

I drive the Z pretty hard. But I don't abuse it by any means. And I take care of all the necessary maintenance. I might be wearing things a bit more than "normal" as defined by Nissan, but I'm fine with that. If some OEM parts can't handle my driving, then I will gladly upgrade it to better quality aftermarket parts. In 65K miles I haven't found any OEM parts that cannot hold up to my daily driving except possibly the CSC, which I replaced prior to it failing. And it's not like the CSC is well-reputed OEM part on this car.

I did not mention any of my concerns because I do not have any. I have addressed the concerns that I had previously (ESCL & CSC)

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vtec to vvel

At 34 years of age according to your profile, I'm quite disappointed in your reading context and comprehension skills.

I never said I was worried about bad mpg or tire wear in general, but rather the extreme degree of them. For example, if a fat@$$ was to ride in your car, that would equate to additional gas being used and excessive tire wear than normal, among other variables that also cause excessive wear, versus no fat@$$ in the car. And I am quite aware of what the manual states. The manual also states you can temporarily use lower octane gas, but would you really do this? Another example would be industry standards of miles, which is 15k per year. Are you going to drive all 15k miles on your car in a year because the industry standards state so? Or would you rather put less miles on your vehicle? Just because the manual says you can do something doesn't necessarily mean you should. I drive my car like a grandma because why put additional stress on my car? I'm not in a hurry to go anywhere. Also, this is what works for me, which leads me to my next point below.



Once again, this goes back to your comprehension skills, or lack of. Earlier post, you state:

I was merely piggy-backing off of your comment with the "IDGAF" statement. And if you read further, I do state "and vice versa". To dumb it down even more for you, this means that you may have concerns that I don't care about and that I also may have concerns that you don't care about. Again, as you state, to each their own.