What GIVES?!

Davey · 03-22-2015, 08:12 AM

I agree there isn't really much of anything available that's a real competitor to the Z. There are plenty of other fast toys in that price range (Mustang, Camaro, STI, etc.) but they're not the same sort of car or what the Z tries to be. So there's the "Z vs. used Cayman" argument which has been done before.

Also, Chris Harris is an idiot. Come on, he picked that underpowered weed-wacker BRZ over the Z? Really? The BRZ might be great for autocross or track days but it's an awful, awful daily driver. Listen to him rant like an idiot about why the Citroen 2CV is the best most fun car to drive ever, and then consider who you're listening to as a source of information on performance cars. And he doesn't like the Miata, either. How can you like the BRZ, but not like the Miata? Lunacy.

So yeah comparing the Z to the Cayman is what Nissan needs to do when they design the next Z, not what we need to do when considering our car's competitors. The Z offers power, performance, handling, good looks, at a reasonable price. I agree you can buy faster cars for the money but I disagree they provide the same sort of experience.

03-22-2015, 08:12 AM	#8 (permalink)
Davey A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Indiana Posts: 3,766 Drives: '15 NISMO 6MT Rep Power: 117173	I agree there isn't really much of anything available that's a real competitor to the Z. There are plenty of other fast toys in that price range (Mustang, Camaro, STI, etc.) but they're not the same sort of car or what the Z tries to be. So there's the "Z vs. used Cayman" argument which has been done before. Also, Chris Harris is an idiot. Come on, he picked that underpowered weed-wacker BRZ over the Z? Really? The BRZ might be great for autocross or track days but it's an awful, awful daily driver. Listen to him rant like an idiot about why the Citroen 2CV is the best most fun car to drive ever, and then consider who you're listening to as a source of information on performance cars. And he doesn't like the Miata, either. How can you like the BRZ, but not like the Miata? Lunacy. So yeah comparing the Z to the Cayman is what Nissan needs to do when they design the next Z, not what we need to do when considering our car's competitors. The Z offers power, performance, handling, good looks, at a reasonable price. I agree you can buy faster cars for the money but I disagree they provide the same sort of experience. GeauxTigers1 and jpkirk like this.