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FPenvy 03-19-2015 09:19 AM
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Originally Posted by njobe89 (Post 3142317)
basically cause you're fpenvy lol

now if you said you were a F.I. rep, i'd believe that lol
yes but if I came on here acting proper and well behaved it would raise suspicion. it's easier to gather info that is free and open when there isn't any knowledge that a power figure of sorts is watching.


that being said I wish I was a Nissan rep because I would have a new Z or Q60 before you bitches lol

repping FI all day my friend :tiphat:

:stirthepot:

njobe89 03-19-2015 09:23 AM
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Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 3142319)
yes but if I came on here acting proper and well behaved it would raise suspicion. it's easier to gather info that is free and open when there isn't any knowledge that a power figure of sorts is watching.


that being said I wish I was a Nissan rep because I would have a new Z or Q60 before you bitches lol

repping FI all day my friend :tiphat:

:stirthepot:
lol, :tiphat:

Firebase99 03-19-2015 10:37 AM
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Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 3142308)
nismo version will most likely be 450hp based on there being a 400hp and later 450hp version of the Q60 that was announced.

when these release you gotta think that the next GT-R will be out or soon to be out so the HP on that will be way up too. considering it already is at 545hp and the nismo at 600hp. if next gen GTR gets the hybrid boost it'll be up to 800hp total. probably 600hp engine and 150-250hp electric add on.

so a 400/450HP step down Z isn't out of the question. still will be a 200HP or so gap as the Z and GTR are around now.
We've been saying this for months now, and Ill CHEERFULLY pay $10K more for a 450HP Z35. I drive a Genesis so I obviously dont care what it looks like either. :tup:

FPenvy 03-19-2015 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Firebase99 (Post 3142411)
We've been saying this for months now, and Ill CHEERFULLY pay $10K more for a 450HP Z35. I drive a Genesis so I obviously dont care what it looks like either. :tup:
should keep stuff like this last part to yourself about driving a genny lol :bowrofl:

now updated body genny with a 5.0 has potential. :stirthepot:

kenchan 03-19-2015 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Z_ealot (Post 3141861)
I think he's talking about those guys that obsess over my little pony
That's not a pony its a rainbow unicorn? :ugh:

Firebase99 03-19-2015 10:56 AM
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Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 3142413)
should keep stuff like this last part to yourself about driving a genny lol :bowrofl:

now updated body genny with a 5.0 has potential. :stirthepot:
Id get stiff if they would drop that TAU 5.0 in the next coupe, from what we have seen and heard, theres zero chance of that sadly.

FPenvy 03-19-2015 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Firebase99 (Post 3142440)
Id get stiff if they would drop that TAU 5.0 in the next coupe, from what we have seen and heard, theres zero chance of that sadly.
yea it would be cool to see. pretty sure they are just beefin up the 4 banger turbo or maybe a v6 turbo.

next Z will still be better on the looks side most likely no matter if the genny gets a V6 boosted.

Bshields22 03-19-2015 11:04 AM
Hey LAVA, where did you see these reports?

Firebase99 03-19-2015 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 3142444)
yea it would be cool to see. pretty sure they are just beefin up the 4 banger turbo or maybe a v6 turbo.

next Z will still be better on the looks side most likely no matter if the genny gets a V6 boosted.

'14 was the last year for the 4 pot turbo. As you know, theyll probabaly be going with the turbo 6 3.3L. Not sure how interested Ill be if its not at least meeting the Z 35 specs for $10K less with all my current amenities.

njobe89 03-19-2015 11:36 AM
so off topic but my cousin has a 2.0t genesis 2013 i think. he got intakes and a cbe and got tuned and he's at 305whp and 340tq. while we were there some guy that wouldn't stfu about how his 3.8 turbo genesis was beating everything on the road got dynoed and i laugh at him. after the tune he couldn't get 400whp.

now to me that's sad, or maybe it's just me?
also i think he must have been racing civics if he was beating everyone

Firebase99 03-19-2015 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by njobe89 (Post 3142487)
so off topic but my cousin has a 2.0t genesis 2013 i think. he got intakes and a cbe and got tuned and he's at 305whp and 340tq. while we were there some guy that wouldn't stfu about how his 3.8 turbo genesis was beating everything on the road got dynoed and i laugh at him. after the tune he couldn't get 400whp.

now to me that's sad, or maybe it's just me?
also i think he must have been racing civics if he was beating everyone
The gains made on the 2.0 Turbos are astonishing, I mean 5, 600HP. The few Turbo 3.8 6 are simply monsters. He did something wrong, or was an idiot, probably both. But out of the box the 2.0 Turbo is a FAR better platform for serious modding. The 3.8, stock, out of the box is the far better platform if youre not going FI.

njobe89 03-19-2015 11:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Firebase99 (Post 3142491)
The gains made on the 2.0 Turbos are astonishing, I mean 5, 600HP. The few Turbo 3.8 6 are simply monsters. He did something wrong, or was an idiot, probably both. But out of the box the 2.0 Turbo is a FAR better platform for serious modding. The 3.8, stock, out of the box is the far better platform if youre not going FI.
i'd like to go with idiot please lol. while i was there i didn't see any hit that high. i think the highest one was 450-500whp. but if the 2.0 is hitting 600whp that's pretty impressive i think.

Firebase99 03-19-2015 11:59 AM
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Originally Posted by njobe89 (Post 3142499)
i'd like to go with idiot please lol. while i was there i didn't see any hit that high. i think the highest one was 450-500whp. but if the 2.0 is hitting 600whp that's pretty impressive i think.
Well edit, after actually looking (:tiphat:), the 2.0 are around 400HP, the 3.8 are in the 500. But getting that power is obviously much cheaper and easier on the 2.0.

njobe89 03-19-2015 12:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Firebase99 (Post 3142509)
Well edit, after actually looking (:tiphat:), the 2.0 are around 400HP, the 3.8 are in the 500. But getting that power is obviously much cheaper and easier on the 2.0.
yea definitely for the 2.0t... i was telling my cousin he wouldn't even get 280whp and when it showed 305whp, i shut up quickly lol :roflpuke2:

LAVA 03-19-2015 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Bshields22 (Post 3142457)
Hey LAVA, where did you see these reports?
I did a Google search for 2016 Nissan Z35, and that came up in one of the first few links
Source

FPenvy 03-19-2015 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted by LAVA (Post 3142530)
I did a Google search for 2016 Nissan Z35, and that came up in one of the first few links
Source
i'm sorry but I'm struggling to want to believe a site called releasedate2016cars.com

:tiphat:

but yes there are a few facts in there that are true/likely.

RicerX 03-19-2015 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by LAVA (Post 3142530)
I did a Google search for 2016 Nissan Z35, and that came up in one of the first few links
Source
I can tell you right now, and I will bet my car on it - all of that is BS. The rendering also looks like it was a bridesmaid beaten into a coma with every ugly stick in the country.

Nissan has a much better shot at sales with the Mustang/Camaro/Genesis/Challenger crowd if they toss in a 3.0TT V6, share a platform with the upcoming Q60, and start it at $35k with 420-450hp that aiming for the dwindling BRZ crowd. Why? Because the Mustang market generates sales and right now, the BRZ is looking to be a flash in the pan.

Can't wait to see the real thing.

RicerX 03-19-2015 12:44 PM
I might also add - hybrid powertrains are HEAVY. There is no way you're going to twin turbo a V6 with 400-450hp with a hybrid powertrain (or a 2.0T four banger) and land at less than 3300 pounds while meeting safety standards. It'll be more like the 3600-3800 pound mark, the car will initially win a couple people over and we'll be exactly where we are now with the Z34 - the Z35 will be long in the tooth and its competitors will have outpaced it in many areas (not all).

BTW- the only Z for MY2016 is a Z34.

LAVA 03-19-2015 12:45 PM
Could be BS, we won't know until the Tokyo show next year. I agree that rendering was horrible so here's another one.

http://newestcars2016.com/wp-content...Nissan-Z35.jpg

Here's another article saying basically the same thing

2016 Nissan Z35 Engine Options

2016 Nissan Z35 needs to come with powerful yet entertaining speed. That is why the company needs something to make the performance more reliable compared to the current model. It is reported that this car will get engine supply from Mercedes-Benz. It means it is very possible to see hybrid engine turbocharged inline four 2.0 liter in order to generate the output for about 211 horsepower and also 258 lb-ft of twist and there is a support of electrical motor. Another powerful option is turbocharged V6 engine 3.0 liter in order to generate more than 400 horsepower. It is mated to electric motor. Gladly, the company works best in order to cover the demand of all different markets with different engines for 2016 Nissan Z35.


source

FPenvy 03-19-2015 12:45 PM
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Originally Posted by RicerX (Post 3142546)
I might also add - hybrid powertrains are HEAVY. There is no way you're going to twin turbo a V6 with 400-450hp with a hybrid powertrain (or a 2.0T four banger) and land at less than 3300 pounds while meeting safety standards. It'll be more like the 3600-3800 pound mark, the car will win a couple people over and we'll be exactly where we are now with the Z34.

BTW- the only Z for MY2016 is a Z34.
:iagree:

16 will most likely be the last MY for the Z34 (hopefully).

I would assume (and hope) that Nissan will unveil something or anything about the next Z this December at the Tokyo auto show.

kenchan 03-19-2015 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by njobe89 (Post 3142487)
so off topic but my cousin has a 2.0t genesis 2013 i think. he got intakes and a cbe and got tuned and he's at 305whp and 340tq. while we were there some guy that wouldn't stfu about how his 3.8 turbo genesis was beating everything on the road got dynoed and i laugh at him. after the tune he couldn't get 400whp.

now to me that's sad, or maybe it's just me?
also i think he must have been racing civics if he was beating everyone
noone cares :gtfo2:

Firebase99 03-19-2015 01:29 PM
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This **** is OLD. The text is far older than 1/2015. I remember reading exactly that at least 10 months ago. I think that site is just garbled news IMO.

Tadpole 03-19-2015 01:54 PM
The projected price is expected to be lower than price of the 370Z.

:bs::bs::bs::bs::bs::bs::bs::bs::bs::bs:

RicerX 03-19-2015 02:12 PM
I'm just laughing so hard right now going through what people on this forum want to see in the next Z.

"I want to have a chick that's my main chick, looks like Kate Upton but a bit leaner, has a Kim Kardashian-esque complexion but doesn't wear stupid clothes, is well spoken like Erin Andrews but doesn't sound like her, has legs like Anna Kournikova but is shorter than me, and has an accent like Kate Beckinsale. I want all of those things, but I never want to have to pay her compliments when I don't feel like it, I want her to be ok with it if I want a side chick, I never want to listen to her problems, I never want to have to spend money on her, I never want her to gain weight after having babies, and I never want her to get attention from any other dudes."

MAKE IT HAPPEN NISSAN - the Nissan 370 Katekardashikovale Utility Coupe.

If such a chick existed, maybe three of us would actually make a move to pick her up while the rest wait around for her to go through a couple of dudes so her value will "depreciate" first. And then of course, we would have all the armchair quarterbacks that would never hope for any success in that endeavor, and would come back with "elbows too pointy. would not."

Magic Bus 03-19-2015 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted by RicerX (Post 3142540)
Nissan has a much better shot at sales with the Mustang/Camaro/Genesis/Challenger crowd if they toss in a 3.0TT V6, share a platform with the upcoming Q60, and start it at $35k with 420-450hp that aiming for the dwindling BRZ crowd. Why? Because the Mustang market generates sales and right now, the BRZ is looking to be a flash in the pan.
Agreed, I posted a comment on this earlier plus the sales numbers for the Mustang, Camaro and C7 Vette as that's a 2 seater. If Nissan wants to move cars, this is the area to compete in, not the BRZ arena as it's market is just too small.

edk370 03-21-2015 03:01 PM
Well, if that rendering is accurate, then it's either C7, P85 Tesla, or 991 P-car for me....I'm a waiting.

SurfDog 04-28-2015 08:33 PM
Ill just drop whatever supercharged, TT, direct injection, V8, 8 liter, hybrid, 9000 RPM monstrosity they come up with right into my 09 chassis (as soon as I blow up my VQ that is) That way I can keep my fangs!

P's_Z 04-28-2015 09:55 PM
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Originally Posted by LAVA (Post 3142547)
Could be BS, we won't know until the Tokyo show next year. I agree that rendering was horrible so here's another one.

http://newestcars2016.com/wp-content...Nissan-Z35.jpg
Looks like a veloster crossed with a genesis with a hint of murano :ugh2:

MR.nismo 04-28-2015 10:06 PM
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Originally Posted by P's_Z (Post 3182005)
Looks like a veloster crossed with a genesis with a hint of murano :ugh2:
Not so radical nor good looking IMO.
What is wrong with Nissan designers? Can they be more original and keep the heritage alive and flowing?

Nismo89 04-28-2015 10:30 PM
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Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 3114068)
Hello everyone.

I know that over the past few months we have speculated, talked about, and argued over many rumors and leaked details over the very secretive new Z.

only details we have had to go on so far is some possibilities tossed in interviews from Nissan execs and the details of the 2016 Q60 that was shown. the details of that debut has given us all renewed hope and dreams of the next Z will/can offer.

now for the fun stuff:

last night I stopped by the Pittsburgh auto show for it's last night of the event. very nice to go last day since the crowd was very small and made it easy to navigate. and yes I know this isn't a bug name auto show and what could possibly come from it but you'd be surprised as to what you can hear from reps at these shows as well. I learned this last night first hand.

stopped at the infiniti area and was looking around. I made a comment as to why they didn't have a Q60 there mostly joking since again this isn't one of the top tier locations for auto makers and shows. the rep I was with went on to tell me they actually had one coming but due to the winter storms their truck hauling a few vehicles could not make it.

he then went on to tell me (off the record of course) that the Q80 is pretty much shelved for now and if anything it'll be a loooooooong shot 2017/18 idea.....if anything at all. I guess cutting into the GT-R market is still a big no no.

he also said that due to design stuff and some other issues we will be seeing a Z prior to the Q60 launch. so I would take from that comment that the Q60 is delayed at least a year now as well. also mentioned that the Z update has a chance of early 2016 release but most likely will be a fall 2016 if all goes according to plan.

the Z will most likely be TT since he smirked and asked "do you think you're ready for over 400 horsepower?" :excited:

I would assume with the few big car shows coming up we should be getting some new solid info on the Z very soon.

note: this was all just discussion between a rep. so please if anything doesn't end up being true remember I never said this is guaranteed. i'm just helping out the community with sharing info that was told to me. if not true then I am sorry and will be just as sad as the rest of you.
:tiphat: for the...POSSIBLE..... info

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVQT3638TZA

P's_Z 04-28-2015 10:31 PM
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Originally Posted by MR.nismo (Post 3182015)
Not so radical nor good looking IMO.
What is wrong with Nissan designers? Can they be more original and keep the heritage alive and flowing?
:iagree:

NRTim 04-28-2015 10:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Nismo89 (Post 3182027)
:tiphat: for the...POSSIBLE..... info
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CYk2nA-Suzs

Z_ealot 04-28-2015 11:10 PM
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Originally Posted by MR.nismo (Post 3182015)
Not so radical nor good looking IMO.
What is wrong with Nissan designers? Can they be more original and keep the heritage alive and flowing?
You do realize that these renderings aren't done by nissan themselves right?

MR.nismo 04-28-2015 11:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Z_ealot (Post 3182060)
You do realize that these renderings aren't done by nissan themselves right?
No, I was not totally aware of it. I have read some of the other rumors but nothing in concrete.
But thank you for the insights.

carlitos_370z 04-29-2015 06:36 AM
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Originally Posted by P's_Z (Post 3182005)
Looks like a veloster crossed with a genesis with a hint of murano :ugh2:
looooooooooool! damn that thing is ugly... I hope they can do it better than that :shakes head:

FPenvy 05-09-2015 11:32 AM
Just saw a post that nissan is bringing a Z concept to ZdayZ next week. Im hoping that it is for the new Z and not a hyped up way of saying it's the convertible 2105 nismo that they showed a while back.

I will be there with my phone and a camera for pics. Let's all hope it's the next Z. I will post once I get home from ZdayZ next Sunday.

Asheth 05-09-2015 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 3193101)
Just saw a post that nissan is bringing a Z concept to ZdayZ next week. Im hoping that it is for the new Z and not a hyped up way of saying it's the convertible 2105 nismo that they showed a while back.

I will be there with my phone and a camera for pics. Let's all hope it's the next Z. I will post once I get home from ZdayZ next Sunday.
I smell 2015 Nismo Convertible :stirthepot:

Tigger 05-09-2015 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Asheth (Post 3193122)
I smell 2015 Nismo Convertible :stirthepot:

Honestly, that might be pretty cool.

NRTim 05-09-2015 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 3193101)
Just saw a post that nissan is bringing a Z concept to ZdayZ next week. Im hoping that it is for the new Z and not a hyped up way of saying it's the convertible 2105 nismo that they showed a while back.

I will be there with my phone and a camera for pics. Let's all hope it's the next Z. I will post once I get home from ZdayZ next Sunday.
Man I hope it's not the Nismo convertible....but if it is an actual Z35 concept and you get pics of it, props to you for giving us some hope :happydance:

FPenvy 05-09-2015 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Tigger (Post 3193142)
Honestly, that might be pretty cool.

It's not that great nor do I feel it's a "concept" since it's coming out or already is an order option.

Hopin for a next gen concept.


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