2014 GT-R Wrecked - Back to 370Z

Patrick@AAMComp · 01-22-2015, 11:34 AM

Toyster, thank you for your service and happy to hear you're okay!

I hope your right foot is healing well since that operates the fun control petal!

Welcome back to the Z world!!

edk370 · 01-24-2015, 08:08 PM

Question, can GT-R motor fit in 370 engine bay? Anyone?

Jordo! · 01-24-2015, 08:50 PM

Above and beyond an obligatory expression of gratitude: I am sincerely glad you are back from your military service, intact (albeit enduring a great deal of hardships to manage, the likes of which I can only barely begin to imagine), and also glad that you survived the crash -- you, sir, are tough as nails, a fighter and a survivor, and for that alone, I salute you.

It's a shame the GT-R is a wash -- but you have the picked up sweetest of Z34's. Continue to endure, survive, and thrive and, of course, do so in style, having fun with the new Z

So, with that in mind, my humble suggestions for what to do with the new car:

1. Intakes - easy and massive-bang-for-the-buck --> K&N (or similar) panel filters + cobb (or similar) smooth (i.e., not "accordion" style) intake tubing. Money to burn and bumper removal a fun occasional Sunday in the garage, Stillen G3's, for a little more top end and growl.

2. Exhaust. Keep the OEM H pipe and cat back one, but replace the OEM cats with either high flow (RESONATED!) variants, or, if for various reasons you would just as soon as dispose of the bottleneck entirely: resonated test pipes or long tube headers (recommended: PPE).

3. Suspension/Brakes: The Nismo is stiffer than the non-nismo; add additional bracing, if you wish, in keeping with your goals, and some consideration of how over/under/neutral you like to be. OEM is fine.

Likewise with alignment, but going lower will demand more camber correction. For dampers and springs, I say, forgo coilovers, and get a set of Koni yellows and Swift sport springs. There are detailed threads on this combo, but in short: lower, flatter, firmer (the OEM Nismos, I believe, are not progressively wound, and thus can be uncomfortable when not hunkering down to take a corner -- it's always hunkering down to the same extent...).

In theory, you have stiffer lines and pads with better bite already -- I recommend Goodrich SS lines and Project Mu pads if you want a bit more out of them.

4. Tuning: If available for your car, look into Osiris Uprev -- more of a necessity if you do the Stillen G3's and definitely if you do headers or test pipes. Otherwise, a bit less critical for panel filters+tubes+HFC's.

5. Tires/wheels: OEM is quite good on the Nismo -- but you may want to look into spacers -- say 20 mm in F and 25 MM in back. This is, frankly, more cosmetic than anything -- the effect on overall handling is nominal at best.

6. Fluids: Redline 5w30 seems to fare very well on UOA's, while also quieting our noisy VVEL heads. Eventually, you'll want Redline for your other fluids too. Pretty well liked around here, and so it seems, deservedly so.

7. Oil cooling: At need. See where you tend to hover. If you rarely creep past 230*F, try some Arc cool fins (search). Inexpensive but effective. If you will be tracking or find yourself running well over 230* F quite a bit, look into replacing the OEM cooler with an aftermarket oil cooler -- numerous threads on it.

Enjoy!

Jordo! · 01-25-2015, 04:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by edk370

Question, can GT-R motor fit in 370 engine bay? Anyone?

Even if it could, the fabwork to make everything else mate up would be an enormous undertaking.

Then there's getting the ECU to work -- would have to be something like Motech full stand alone, drive train, etc etc.

It would be cheaper and easier to buy a salvage title GT-R and modify the body to look however you wish, perhaps custom retrofitting Z bumpers and the like, if the aim is a GT-R powered AWD Z.

There's virtually no shared parts between the platforms -- bear in mind that even the G and Z have some differences where everything doesn't simply bolt right into place (e.g., exhaust components) and those are practically identical vehicles built off the same exact platform.

Toyster · 01-25-2015, 11:02 PM

Thanks again all, I would LOVE IT if I could have had/saved that GT-R Handbuilt Engine ;-)

*Here's some pics of the Car back in it's glory days, loved every minute I had it!
**That's my oldest Son in it ;-)

edk370 · 01-26-2015, 08:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jordo!

Even if it could, the fabwork to make everything else mate up would be an enormous undertaking.

Then there's getting the ECU to work -- would have to be something like Motech full stand alone, drive train, etc etc.

It would be cheaper and easier to buy a salvage title GT-R and modify the body to look however you wish, perhaps custom retrofitting Z bumpers and the like, if the aim is a GT-R powered AWD Z.

There's virtually no shared parts between the platforms -- bear in mind that even the G and Z have some differences where everything doesn't simply bolt right into place (e.g., exhaust components) and those are practically identical vehicles built off the same exact platform.

Buying a salvaged hipo car is not worth it imo. Chassis damage, water damage, electrical lemon law car, mechanical...screw that.

Well, couldn't you at least use the GTR's ECU? People who do motor swap use the ECU to the corresponding engine they swap. In 5 yrs. or less, someone will swap a GT-R engine into a 370, and Chevy LS V8s....

Jordo! · 01-27-2015, 01:09 PM

To use the ECU and motor, you would also need the high tech trans and you would have to make all that fit along with cluster, all sensors, harness the whole shebang.

It could be done, but not for less than the cost of a used GT-R. You would need a gutted Z chassis and essentially have to build all bracketry, possibly go through the firewall.

The clue that this would be an ENORMOUS undertaking is that no one has tried to do it yet.

These tricks are easier with a standard trans, and even then you have a lot of fabwork to do.

You can't even swap ECU's on the same model Z or easily swap out nav systems between one MY and the next on the same vehicle anymore -- if this project can be done it will need to be done by a sponsored race team, and the car will not be reliable or street legal.

It's way more than just a motor swap. Find a shop that does big projects like this, tell them you have a Z chassis and all the GT-R parts in your garage and ask them to give you a time and labor estimate... see what they say.

If you just want the motor + turbos and not the trans, then you almost definitely need a stand alone (and maybe an aftermarket cluster) to run it or wire both ECU's to run in tandem (it can be done, but it is a major headache). But for the cost and effort of all that, you could just turbo the Z motor and call it a day at a fraction of the cost.

Tadpole · 01-27-2015, 01:37 PM

Just slap some twin screws in your Z and call it a day.

edk370 · 01-27-2015, 04:11 PM

^that GT-R motor is pretty though!

tonythetiger · 01-28-2015, 08:05 AM

talk about nissan love

jaedub · 01-29-2015, 12:47 AM

Glad you're okay. And to be perfectly honest, I think the 370z Nismo looks far more better than the GT-R.

jberry · 01-29-2015, 02:55 AM

Thank You for your service for this country!! and glad that you are safe from that accident! and that is a beautiful new ride! love the new NISMO Z.

Godzirra · 02-06-2015, 10:10 AM

Glad you're ok and thank you for your service, fellow veteran! I just cried a little looking at your photos.

roplusbee · 02-08-2015, 06:56 AM

To my fellow veteran...............welcome back.

That GT-R looks like it got hit by an IED. I am glad you are OK. I'm not feeling the 15 NISMOs, but your happiness is what counts. Have fun with her.

Rob

trustr888 · 02-09-2015, 10:45 PM

Thank you for your service sir! That is definitely hard losing the GTR. Glad your ok. As they say on the GTR Forum, "you can replace cars, not lives." Glad you got a Nismo and I have to say I like the white color now. I have an 08 Nismo that I'm contemplating on trading in for the new one. The Recaros were good and I liked how they improved the interior and added navi.

Congrats and glad your ok!

01-22-2015, 11:34 AM	#31 (permalink)
Patrick@AAMComp Base Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Maryland Posts: 160 Drives: with steering wheel Rep Power: 19	Toyster, thank you for your service and happy to hear you're okay! I hope your right foot is healing well since that operates the fun control petal! Welcome back to the Z world!! Toyster likes this. __________________ Luis R. aamcompetition.com

01-24-2015, 08:08 PM	#32 (permalink)
edk370 Enthusiast Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: So Cal Posts: 296 Drives: 09 370Z Rep Power: 12	Question, can GT-R motor fit in 370 engine bay? Anyone? Toyster likes this.

01-24-2015, 08:50 PM	#33 (permalink)
Jordo! A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2010 Location: nirvana Posts: 6,394 Drives: 2023 NATM Rep Power: 417	Above and beyond an obligatory expression of gratitude: I am sincerely glad you are back from your military service, intact (albeit enduring a great deal of hardships to manage, the likes of which I can only barely begin to imagine), and also glad that you survived the crash -- you, sir, are tough as nails, a fighter and a survivor, and for that alone, I salute you. It's a shame the GT-R is a wash -- but you have the picked up sweetest of Z34's. Continue to endure, survive, and thrive and, of course, do so in style, having fun with the new Z So, with that in mind, my humble suggestions for what to do with the new car: 1. Intakes - easy and massive-bang-for-the-buck --> K&N (or similar) panel filters + cobb (or similar) smooth (i.e., not "accordion" style) intake tubing. Money to burn and bumper removal a fun occasional Sunday in the garage, Stillen G3's, for a little more top end and growl. 2. Exhaust. Keep the OEM H pipe and cat back one, but replace the OEM cats with either high flow (RESONATED!) variants, or, if for various reasons you would just as soon as dispose of the bottleneck entirely: resonated test pipes or long tube headers (recommended: PPE). 3. Suspension/Brakes: The Nismo is stiffer than the non-nismo; add additional bracing, if you wish, in keeping with your goals, and some consideration of how over/under/neutral you like to be. OEM is fine. Likewise with alignment, but going lower will demand more camber correction. For dampers and springs, I say, forgo coilovers, and get a set of Koni yellows and Swift sport springs. There are detailed threads on this combo, but in short: lower, flatter, firmer (the OEM Nismos, I believe, are not progressively wound, and thus can be uncomfortable when not hunkering down to take a corner -- it's always hunkering down to the same extent...). In theory, you have stiffer lines and pads with better bite already -- I recommend Goodrich SS lines and Project Mu pads if you want a bit more out of them. 4. Tuning: If available for your car, look into Osiris Uprev -- more of a necessity if you do the Stillen G3's and definitely if you do headers or test pipes. Otherwise, a bit less critical for panel filters+tubes+HFC's. 5. Tires/wheels: OEM is quite good on the Nismo -- but you may want to look into spacers -- say 20 mm in F and 25 MM in back. This is, frankly, more cosmetic than anything -- the effect on overall handling is nominal at best. 6. Fluids: Redline 5w30 seems to fare very well on UOA's, while also quieting our noisy VVEL heads. Eventually, you'll want Redline for your other fluids too. Pretty well liked around here, and so it seems, deservedly so. 7. Oil cooling: At need. See where you tend to hover. If you rarely creep past 230F, try some Arc cool fins (search). Inexpensive but effective. If you will be tracking or find yourself running well over 230 F quite a bit, look into replacing the OEM cooler with an aftermarket oil cooler -- numerous threads on it. Enjoy! Toyster, b15 and carlitos_370z like this. __________________ Enjoy it. Destroy it. Last edited by Jordo!; 01-24-2015 at 09:34 PM.

01-25-2015, 11:02 PM	#35 (permalink)
Toyster Base Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Northern California Age: 58 Posts: 6 Drives: 15 370Z NISMO/White Rep Power: 17	Tytytyvm All~! Thanks again all, I would LOVE IT if I could have had/saved that GT-R Handbuilt Engine ;-) Here's some pics of the Car back in it's glory days, loved every minute I had it! *That's my oldest Son in it ;-) kenchan, falconfixer, carlitos_370z and 2 others like this.

01-27-2015, 01:09 PM	#37 (permalink)
Jordo! A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2010 Location: nirvana Posts: 6,394 Drives: 2023 NATM Rep Power: 417	To use the ECU and motor, you would also need the high tech trans and you would have to make all that fit along with cluster, all sensors, harness the whole shebang. It could be done, but not for less than the cost of a used GT-R. You would need a gutted Z chassis and essentially have to build all bracketry, possibly go through the firewall. The clue that this would be an ENORMOUS undertaking is that no one has tried to do it yet. These tricks are easier with a standard trans, and even then you have a lot of fabwork to do. You can't even swap ECU's on the same model Z or easily swap out nav systems between one MY and the next on the same vehicle anymore -- if this project can be done it will need to be done by a sponsored race team, and the car will not be reliable or street legal. It's way more than just a motor swap. Find a shop that does big projects like this, tell them you have a Z chassis and all the GT-R parts in your garage and ask them to give you a time and labor estimate... see what they say. If you just want the motor + turbos and not the trans, then you almost definitely need a stand alone (and maybe an aftermarket cluster) to run it or wire both ECU's to run in tandem (it can be done, but it is a major headache). But for the cost and effort of all that, you could just turbo the Z motor and call it a day at a fraction of the cost. Toyster likes this. __________________ Enjoy it. Destroy it. Last edited by Jordo!; 01-27-2015 at 01:12 PM.

01-27-2015, 01:37 PM	#38 (permalink)
Tadpole A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Lockhart, TX Posts: 1,082 Drives: 13 Nissan 370Z A7 Rep Power: 17	Just slap some twin screws in your Z and call it a day. Toyster and carlitos_370z like this. __________________ Takeda TR3009P Short Ram Intakes, Custom Dual Exhaust, X-Piped with 18" Resonators & TopSpeed Axle Backs. EVO-R Led Third Foglight,

01-27-2015, 04:11 PM	#39 (permalink)
edk370 Enthusiast Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: So Cal Posts: 296 Drives: 09 370Z Rep Power: 12	^that GT-R motor is pretty though! Toyster likes this.

01-28-2015, 08:05 AM	#40 (permalink)
tonythetiger A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: SA, TX Posts: 1,035 Drives: 10 Nissan 370z PG MT Rep Power: 192	talk about nissan love Toyster likes this. __________________ KWV3/Eibach/StillenG3/FI CBE+LTH+34Row/Uprev/SPL/SouthBendSS/QuaifeLSD/4.08/TommyKaira/Status/VolkZE40/AP Radical BBK/Seibon/Amuse/VIS/Sparco/WorksBellGTC/RJM/Nismo

01-29-2015, 12:47 AM	#41 (permalink)
jaedub Track Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 906 Drives: 2010 Black 370Z MT Rep Power: 304	Glad you're okay. And to be perfectly honest, I think the 370z Nismo looks far more better than the GT-R. Toyster likes this.

01-29-2015, 02:55 AM	#42 (permalink)
jberry Base Member Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: Guam Posts: 5 Drives: 09 Nissan 370z PG M6 Rep Power: 10	Thank You for your service for this country!! and glad that you are safe from that accident! and that is a beautiful new ride! love the new NISMO Z. Toyster likes this. __________________ Berk Catback Exhaust \| Stillen Gen3 CAI \| SSR SP3 20" rims \| Kenwood 6.1" w/ JL 12"

02-06-2015, 10:10 AM	#43 (permalink)
Godzirra Base Member Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: Nebraska/NC/AZ Posts: 37 Drives: 2014 GT-R Jet Black Rep Power: 11	Glad you're ok and thank you for your service, fellow veteran! I just cried a little looking at your photos. Toyster likes this. __________________ 2014 GT-R Premium JET BLK 2010 370z Roadster Tour BLK CHERRY

02-08-2015, 06:56 AM	#44 (permalink)
roplusbee A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Killeen, TX Posts: 2,360 Drives: 2007 350Z NISMO Rep Power: 22	To my fellow veteran...............welcome back. That GT-R looks like it got hit by an IED. I am glad you are OK. I'm not feeling the 15 NISMOs, but your happiness is what counts. Have fun with her. Rob Toyster likes this. __________________ 2007 350Z NISMO #0618: Zerolift \| UPREV \| F.I. \| Greddy \| Competition Clutch \| Injector Dynamics \| Aeromotive \| Pioneer \| JL

02-09-2015, 10:45 PM	#45 (permalink)
trustr888 Base Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: AZ Posts: 33 Drives: 08 Nismo Z # 1508 Rep Power: 10	Thank you for your service sir! That is definitely hard losing the GTR. Glad your ok. As they say on the GTR Forum, "you can replace cars, not lives." Glad you got a Nismo and I have to say I like the white color now. I have an 08 Nismo that I'm contemplating on trading in for the new one. The Recaros were good and I liked how they improved the interior and added navi. Congrats and glad your ok! Toyster likes this.

Similar Threads
Thread	Thread Starter	Forum	Replies	Last Post
Excited to be back after Z was wrecked!	Nillaz	Nissan 370Z General Discussions	33	07-05-2014 09:54 PM
WRECKED! 370z Base	theART	Nissan 370Z Photos / Spyshots / Video / Media Gallery	57	04-04-2011 09:32 PM
Back up cameras standard by 2014 car models?	EazyD	The Lounge (Off Topic)	4	12-04-2010 05:37 PM
Wrecked my 370z...	BryanTXz	Nissan 370Z Photos / Spyshots / Video / Media Gallery	36	10-22-2010 03:22 PM
WTB:Wrecked 370Z	KubaSz	Wanted	4	10-21-2010 11:41 PM