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Originally Posted by Rooskey (Post 1018328)

I have a 2010 Nismo with less than 3,000 miles. I would like to trade my Z for a base model or touring edition. A straight up trade would be perfect as long as you have less than 200 miles on your Z. If not some good aftermarket body kits, exhaust, intakes, or suspension systems would be great as long as the parts have been installed by you (professionally). Hell if you have LTH's I may give you some boot $$. Body kits and sound systems go a long ways too!!

got my nismo because of the looks and a little bit of more power plus a rough ride does not bother me none. i came from evos and both my viii mr and x were modified and tuned. also after getting my nismo i wanted to keep it stock form because it is rare to see it out in the road. the most i might do are coilovers and drop in filter from knn. but since ive canyon ran my car it doesn't seem to need coilovers maybe unless i track it. i love my z. don't think id trade it for anything else unless it craps out on me. other models should just be a preference on what u are looking for and what are you willing to do. if u like it get it. if u don't get a different one.

Holy thread resurrection Batman..............

Get what you want and be good with it. Don't hound folks about which model is better/worse, especially since this is a 370Z forum. I mean are BASE, TOURING, and NISMO 370Zs different cars or something? These threads should just die.

lol sorry man. just trying to look at what u guys have said in the past. I'm still new with the z. this is my first Nissan .

So how do you like your new Z?

Man.... its fuckin funtastic!! more fun than my X.

also

you don't have to mod the exterior of a nismo!

I bought my Nismo over the sport/touring simply for the collector value. I have no plan of ever selling it and keeping it completely stock or if I do mod. it in any way all the parts are going in bags and wrapping so that one day far from now it will have all the orginal parts. I enjoy having an individually numbered car of which not many were produced. For me personally that means more than any mod. you could ever do to a "regular" 370Z

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Originally Posted by chii370 (Post 877789)

ok, im sure you have all read the billions of sites that have done the infamous 370z nismo reviews. You have probably all also been keen enough to notice they all "cleverly" pit it against its base/sport/touring brethren. Im by no means a professional car reviewer, but i know what im talkin about. The main problem with these stupid reviews is one key element, they have the car for about 1-3 days, track it, run the standard gauntlet of 0-60, handling, braking, blah blah blah we all know...... and they move on to the next car. I have been the fortunate owner of all but the touring model of the 370z. thats right, i started with a PG 2009 6MT base, then "upgraded" to a black 2009 6MT sport, and now the car i have is the red 2009 6MT Nismo.

first thing i would like to put to rest is this ******** rumor that the base and sport can romp the nismo both on a circuit and in a straight line. having owned all 3 cars for around 6k miles on each respectively...... no they do not. and trust me, by no means am i justifying my purchase of the nismo, since im just as quick to pick out its obvious flaws.

obviously, being 25, one of the first things i did was take the car to the track after they got some miles on them "4k or so". Im not a professional race car driver, so i cant consistently run +-.05 seconds of the same time every time, but i have a general idea of each car after the sum of each runs average.

The base and sport ran about the same, felt EXACTLY the same except for hte launch. sport seemed to actually start to move instead of sit and spin. but they consistently ran 13.6 average over and over again with a few shitty runs of about 13.8.

This is where im surprised every time by reviewers. I ether A: have a freak nismo, or B: actually know how to drive...... because the nismo gets 13.4s on average if i get a good launch. 2 problems i noticed, you CAN NOT launch the cars the same, the nismo will not squat down, transfer weight and dig in unless you really heated the tires OR your running softer ones "im running
Bridgestone Potenza RE050A * Rear: 285/35R19
Sidewall Style: Blackwall
Serv. Desc: (99Y)Load Index 99 = 1709lbs (775kg) per tire
Speed Rating "(Y)" = 186+mph (300kph)
UTQG: Treadwear: 140
Traction: A
Temperature: A
140 A A
which is not stock, but is also not a whole lot different ether. but if you dump it in the 4800-5k range like the sport of base you will just sit still and spin...... FOREVER. and you will destroy your run. But if you ease off the line "looks lame BTW" and then just power out, it goes. trust me. The nismo is a lot more responsive with the throttle more "snappy" is a good way to put it. my old sport and base had this weird lag time when you smashed it to the floor, but the nismo does not.

As far as the circuit track goes? honestly i think its all down to driving style. you cant be *** aggressive with a car that has such a stiff suspension and weighs 3400lbs, this isnt a lotus exige its got a fat ***. so honestly? its ability to lean and sway more with the loose "er" suspension on the base and sport is an advantage IF YOUR TRYING TO DRIVE THEM THE SAME WAY. you cant get in a corvette and take a corner expecting it to handle like your WRX, ok so thats a big difference. but a difference is a difference, and to accurately say one is better then the other you have to first drive them correctly or at least take the time to learn the car. And thats something these reviews have not done, 3 days and your still learning to shift it right....... thats a far jump off from "knowing" the car.

I hate my suspension on every day road driving, and sometimes find myself wishing i could go back. But thats pretty much the only thing about it i dont like. Every other aspect has been an improvement. And i think once time wears on and more people just get there own damn car, instead of listening to some over paid twat on motor trend to tell them a car is good or not, i believe the nismo will start to shine more.

ok, so you dont get all the bells and whistles of the others in the nismo.... but what do you want? a nicer looking car with slightly higher performance? or a comfort mobile? personal :P being 25 i choose the first lol, but not everyone likes that so maybe a nice touring model is for you. there all beautiful cars, and im not real sure why its competing against itself lol. so can we just all get along? hop in our Z, and go chase down some lame mustangs, camaros, and challengers?

like i said, non professional review/opinion from a non professional owner of all 3 cars.

Pretty detailed review, lots of words. :icon18:

I think the base looks a little better but my opinion only matters to me. I considered the Nismo but decided the 7AT was needed on this car. My S2000 will serve as my manual shift toy.

Just curious. At the age of 25 why have you owned three 370Zs?

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Originally Posted by Z3409068 (Post 1093305)

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collector value if production was limited but let me ask you..... is the 350z nismo a hot demand right now?? NOPE those guys thought the same thing.

Let me ask you, how many Nismo's have been made from 2009 to 2011 thus far? Doesnt seem that rare to me. Somewhat saturated unless your comparing it to the 3.5 billion people on this planet.

PS: Nismo interior looks like base interior.... Get some carbon fiber btw :)

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Originally Posted by billet370 (Post 1105277)

PS: Nismo interior looks like base interior.... Get some carbon fiber btw :)

real carbon fiber replacement pieces would be cool, wrapping stock pieces in cf=lame. :stirthepot:

However, I do agree, anyone buying a Nismo for it's perceived collector value is crazy. Hell just about any car is going to depreciate and not be a true collectible short of a bugatti or a miata etc...

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Originally Posted by billet370 (Post 1105517)

You Biatch..... lol

the shot was there, had to take it. :happydance:

wrap your *** in some carbon fiber.... lets see you battle through lol

Ha, carbon fiber condoms....do it! :tup:

(I bet they would actually sell okay)

bwahahaha carbon fiber condoms... what the **** where you thinking lmao.... Not even possible... No way.... not even... wait.. might work.... will work.... GENIUS lol not

well, they'd obviously have to be a carbon fiber wrap, not the real thing, duh! :p

Are you going to send your penis in? Dude that's scary. Lol

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Originally Posted by billet370 (Post 1105275)

Well, all I can say is that it's awesome driving not only the only Z around but the only NISMO in my area of the midwest. As far a production of the Nismo, not sure how many they are going to pump out in 2011. I didn't buy my Nismo for it's collector value, but because my order for a Z Touring/Sports/Nav was cancelled on March 25th due to the issues Japan is having and my dealer could only locate the Nismo within 250 miles. I'm not disappointed with my purchase although I did want all the bells and whistles the Touring/Sports would of had, just have to and them myself I guess. :tup:

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Originally Posted by Bodytechz (Post 1105673)

Which part of IL are you from? Must be the middle of no where to be the only nismo there. I know that there is a second nismo within blocks of where I live. In fact it is the same color too.

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Originally Posted by Cell (Post 1106170)

Which part of IL are you from? Must be the middle of no where to be the only nismo there. I know that there is a second nismo within blocks of where I live. In fact it is the same color too.

Springfield and wow, after I sent that last message, I just went to lunch and saw 2 other black Z's both 350's AND someone told me they saw a silver Nismo in a town close by, so, there ya have it. STILL I don't see a lot of Z's around, which is one of the main reasons I got one instead of a Mustang, Camaro or Corvette.

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Originally Posted by billet370 (Post 1105641)

Are you going to send your penis in? Dude that's scary. Lol

You're just gonna have to come down here and measure it in person big guy...

(your post did remind of that song "detachable penis" from back in the day though). :tup:

Sorry health insurance won't cover aids.... I made the argument but you know how insurance companies are.. Geez lol

Man..............you guys are a tough crowd. Went from discussing (or bashing) NISMOs to CF penis??? Woah, lol........

There are plenty of Zs around Central Texas, yet there are only 2 NISMOs that are normally out and about. A guy in my unit that works on Fort Hood - 2008 Red NISMO Z and me on West Fort Hood - 2009 Red NISMO Z. I have seen both black and white 2009+ NISMOs in the area, but they are either garage queens or outta towners.

One more thing. I am not really subscribing to the collector's item bit. I mean the plaque is cool and all, but I bought the car to drive. The NISMO fit the bill better than installing a bunch of aftermarket cosmetics. The SRM is cool and all, but I rarely use it anymore. The VLSD is a good for street use which is all I have done so far (hopefully that will change in the future). And I really like the NISMO Rays. The clencher is that I got it for the right price which happens to be just a bit more than a Base/Sport. Granted, I bought the car in 2010 even though I worked out my deal 4QTR 2009 because I was out of the country at the time.

fyi: Your nismo brother brought up the penis.... and used my signature to his imagination. I think i just described "jacking-off" OMG.. DUDE... GROSS....

Okay so back on topic.. Its not the Nismo sucks, I truly believe the reason why there even is negativity "well the number one reason" is value of the price tag. Either more car for the price or less price for the car. I dont see the advantage to an extra 10grand PLUS for it. Here’s a good example. I am an automotive car dealer on the side and flip a few cars for profit. I can go and purchase a 2002-2003 Ferrari 360 Spider for 50-65 grand right now...that’s 10-15k more than a nismo and i don’t care about the argument people make about "its a 2002 not a 2011" point being, a lot of people do not daily drive there nismo because of wear and tear, but same with this example using the Ferrari... They have 5k-21k regarding miles.

Another example... 2009 Nissan GTR $52,000-$65,000... Miles 3K-33k....

I would say another 10 grand and move up big time... But that's simply the reason why I do not select Nismo as the better car because of its price factor. FYI they are going for $26,000-$30,000 for a 2009 370z nismo. Miles from 6k-18k... NON NISMO SAME YEAR going for 25k-28k.

So after two years, nismo new was 10k plus over base NEW and now they are only couple thousand. DEPRECIATE RATE IS MORE THAN BASE 370z thus the collector value is the same gimmick that the sales person used on you when you bought the car and showed you the cool metal stamp with a number on it that cost .50 cents to make.

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Originally Posted by billet370 (Post 1110062)

Most nismo owners bought their nismo for about 5-7k more over a base/sport... I paid about 6k more over a base+sport but I also got all the options except for the 500 dollar brake option. This has been debated many times over already and you will see that 99% of nismo owners bought the car for the body and rims. Those two alone are worth it considering if you went aftermarket, it would cost well over 8k just for something decent. Then factor in installation cost/paint/down time.

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Originally Posted by Cell (Post 1110271)

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they don't make that many nismo z to worry about even if you did hate that car. it's not like you would see one every day. to most drivers, they don't even exist :)

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Originally Posted by Cell (Post 1110271)

I see you point but its something thats not orignal. Your buying the same package that hundreds have. Take that 8 grand, by an AMUZE kit FG for cost and similar to factory color tone so 1500-2500, labor and paint 1500. BETTER KIT for 3000-4000 Painted and installed, then buy some 3 piece wheels with the other 4k...TELL ME THAT YOU DONT LIKE THAT PLAN

Just to be honest I dont think I would have bought a 370 if there was not a Nismo. And yes I have already changed the exhaust. But I did not buy it for that. To me I liked the bodykit and the interior better. And to people that want to complain that its a waste of money. Well its my money not yours. I'm very happy with my Nismo. And still have money to mod it. But to be honest I like it when everytime I call Z1 Motorsports and order part they ask model, I say 370z they reply with base,sport, or touring? And I say Nismo and I always get something like nice man or something along those lines. Its like people forget there is a Nismo out there. To me that makes it worth it. If I go the a car show and there are 10 370z odds are I'm the only Nismo.

and you changed the intake :) I SAW IT on the DYNO... your A nismo that changes due to peer pressure. Your going for the modded 370z look lol... wait huh :/ lol just pulling your leg. I truly think Nissan did an EXCELLENT job on the RIMS and those are a HUGE plus from my end. I have never appreciated a set of stock wells as the 19'' Nismo wheels. Only two years ago, the Nismo wheels that were available were fugly. If those wheels were on this Nismo rather than these wheels, i think it would have stopped many from buying the nismo.

Yeah I did change alot that day, i think it was on the lift for like 9 hours. But there are more mods to come lol. But yes I do love the rims, I'm going to powder coat mine but I still love them.

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Originally Posted by billet370 (Post 1110808)

you say for cost.. not every one gets stuff at cost, and there are actually alot of AMUSE(be it real or clone) kits running around..

more nismo's also...real and fake too. Amuse looks better than the nismo but thats my opinion. Sounds like you prefer the nismo over it.

this thread/topic, is retarded. No one is going to convince me that buying a nismo Z is a bad decision, and likewise, no one is going to convince someone who doesn't like the nismo, that it's better.

At the end of the day, we all drive Z's and that's what matters. :driving:

/thread.