Yeah forgot that one lol. I was pretty sure I was up on the times, but it wouldnt be the first time that changes arent announced or known until after its launch. Im speaking out of hope i guess.

Sorry to bump an old thread but if the nismo has a different tune...

What if i had a base model. Got the same exhaust, intake, tune.

And then the nismo got the same exhust, intake and tune. Would they produce the same numbers then or very similar?

Interesting thread-Learned alot
 

2013 & 2014 have fronts(lights)that I don't care for. My taste, everybody has theirs. 2012 is my best year to get(oil cooler). I am also looking at very low mileage 2011's(always can install an even better cooler).

Now I know that the Nismos, no matter what year, look the best, hottest & look fast just standing parked.

However, as a part time drag racer, I'd rather have a very quick Z than one that looks very quick. Beside 2012 Nismos, I'm also considering very low mileage 20011's & 12's base, base/sport. They can be bought at reasonable price this time of the year. With the money I would save, I can always tune it even better, & add a few mods that can put my Z into the 320=340 rear H.P. levels. I know several shops & seen the results. Of course it depended much of what dyno & how the shop sets it up:) They CAN make a car look better:) Anyway with that + gears & tires(slicks) I think I'll be much quicker than any N/A Nismo I know. So?????? Maybe next week :) That's all the time I have right now....

Anyone,
Has any new info come out for the 2015/new z ??????

So if you add those parts to a Nismo Z you wouldn't get the same results? Or is there some bylaw that says if you buy a Nismo you can't upgrade it?

Yes
 

Ok, let me explain. The avg. 2012 low mileage 100 miles to 12,000 miles Nismo costs $30k to $35k.
The avg. base or bas/sport of the same^^^^^^can be had from $24k to $26k.

So if I got test tubes, 4:08 gears, an Osires uprev tune, I would have a much quicker Z than a Nismo and apx. $5k in my pocket, or money to spend on other fun things. Sure you can do that to a Nismo.

All options open. With luck or I'll say without bad luck showing up, I should be buying a 370z next week :ughdance:

Oh yeah I forgot, us Nismo owners spent the extra money because we knew the extra 18hp was going to destroy a regular stock Z in a straight line :ugh2:.

Dude, since you are so high and mighty on drag racing... don't you think there are way better platforms out there for it? I mean if you are content to low 13 sec 1/4 miles, have at it. I would rather buy a 5.0 or something like that which is in the same price range if not cheaper than a Z and is mid 12 sec stock. A low mileage C5 Z06 can be bought for mid to high 20k, and would blow the doors off a Z, Nismo or not.

I don't know why & what problem you have with me considering my options. I didn't say anything bad against a Nismo. I'm still looking at my options.

As far as drag racing, if I get those other muscle cars I would just get lost. Being with a group of ricers, perhaps like yourself, I & my low to mid twelve second times with only a few mods can really stand out & be noticed. Why get into a group of people that know how to drive as good or better than I????? :icon17:

First off, I have no problem with your decisions... I'm just wondering why if your sole purpose in life is to drag race your car, why not buy a way better platform for it. Second, I am not a ricer, lol. Third, a mustang, or Vette is not a muscle car, they are sports cars just like the Z. Ok, I think by now everybody in the entire world knows your were able to hit mid 12's with your 350z... since you kind of mention it in 90% of your posts. I just said low 13s because that is the average times for a full bolt on 370 with a good driver. Plus I think you said you wanted AT so the Nismo is completely out of the picture anyways. Good luck whatever you decide.

First, thank god I don't have to say that(my times) again :) Second, I know for a fact that MANY STOCK 370 Z's turn 13 flat to low 13's without much problems. "low 13's with a full bolt on 370z with a good driver is NOT TRUE"!!!

Unless they are using only two of the four gears or maybe, most likely that has been YOUR experience.

I'm open to a 370z guy that has done some drag racing with a fully modded 370 doing only low 13's to post here!!!!

Someone please. You don't count. I already know what you can do. Now it may not be your fault, that rear spoiler you have can be a real big wind catcher :)

Your posts are so convoluted.. half the time I can't even articulate what the hell you are trying to say. So you are saying the average full bolt on and tuned 370z with a good driver doesn't average low 13s? What times then, 12's? And don't be talking about my wing dude. Lol, I bet if I take it off you would buy it from me when you get your 370. :tup: I see mostly 13s here- http://www.the370z.com/track-autocro...ack-times.html

How about you just buy my low mileage Nismo when I sale it in the next couple months and we'll call it even.

I saw your link, and what I saw was PURE stock 370z's doing 12,9's/13"s & low 13's. The bolted section was from 12.2 to mid twelve. You said good drivers.

THAT'S WHY I WANT A Z !!!! Like I said, nobody would notice me if I competed with a car that has most of their drivers knowing how to drive.

With some Z drivers doing 12.2's & others doing 13.8 says a lot! I want to be part of a group that YOU belong to, drivers with a fully bolted Z's turning ONLY low 13's......

My car was NOT fully bolted by far & it was only a 350
 

So should I expect my FULLY BOLTED Z doing 11.9's???? :p

You also were on slicks, so it's not exactly apples to apples.

That is cool man, get what you would like. I love the Z and think its a great overall performance sports car. I was just throwing out the heavy hitters like the 5.0 and Vette because they have some really fast 1/4 times stock, and I know you are all about that. Buuuuuut, remember, with the Nismo having the extra 18hp, you could possibly shave off .5 sec to a regular Z's time :bowrofl:

Slicks are 100% part of the bolt on rules. Others also use & tried using slicks with not good results.
Let's put into the mix that I had STOCK intakes & base stock Nissan exhaust, minus cats.

All are welcome to use any tires they want. Get slicks, please.

Tell you a little secret. First day I used my slicks, I was so unhappy that I drove around the track trying to sell them. It took me over 9 months to learn how to use them.

I know that they have 18 h.p. more. I also KNOW why they(Nismos) are NOT at the top of the list here & at the 350z forum. If you would want to know why, just ask ...:p

this is fun-CHUCK
 

please join in....

Oh, I know. I'm just pointing out that it's hard to compare times on street tires vs. slicks.

On the other site they have guys with slicks. Some have quicker times, others slower. Many tried & they weren't for them, mostly cause times got worse not better. These are 6 cyl. N/A cars. Slicks aren't for everyone. I started with slicks only after I got into the 12.7's/12.8's...

I'm still deciding which model to get
 

Maybe we can get back to that subject, or just take a break???

last one
 

:icon17:
A set of slicks cost $400 to $500 per set. Why do 370z owners spend many thousands on mods to go quick/fast and not get slicks? I suspect that in N/A class the 370's don't do well with slicks. More h.p. but maybe less tq.?????

Because the vast majority of Z owners aren't into drag racing. Slicks are only good at the track, while you can enjoy power on every on-ramp. ;)

Also, your cost fails to include the pair of rear wheels you need for the slicks.

Why are you again derailing a thread and moving the discussion to track ?

This is NOT a track thread, and I would like it to stay that way.

IF you can't stay on topic? You're posting status here will change to moderated.

I can't stress this enough IF you want to discuss track setups and what not?

Do it in the Track Section where it belongs.

I'm just confused as others with the comparison of the Nismo to the base or sports models. I understand one comes with 18 more hp and other doesn't but with the money you save, you can be equal or even more hp than the Nismo. You can also do your tune, suspension, bodykit, etc and still possibly save money vs buying the Nismo. Can someone please explain it to me because I'm not seeing the reason to have a Nismo vs a sport model 370?

Especially if you or most Nismo owners decide to take everything they paid extra for off and replace it with aftermarket parts, what's the point of purchasing the Nismo? Is the tag on the back of the car? :wtf:

So it doesn't make sense to you why we bought a Nismo huh? Well, some people wonder why buy a Z when you could get a car like the 5.0 for the same price, that could outperform the Z all day. Its called personal preference you moron. :shakes head:

Touchy touchy, it was just a general question. Was it something that drew you to it is mainly what I'm asking. Plus I wanted a car that you don't see too much on the road. I always see 5.0's, Camaro's, vettes, challengers, etc (muscle cars) and I didn't want to be like everyone else. I love the look of all 370Z's, nismo or not, just curious why buy a Nismo? It's not like buying a V6 mustang or Camaro, then I'd understand the 5.0 or SS...

No, don't play innocent, you posted the same stupid comment in another thread, and posted a quote from like 2 years ago bashing the Nismo. I just don't understand why ask why? Its personal preference plain and simple. Why do I have to explain that to somebody? Last time I checked, its my money and I don't have to answer to anybody about any purchases I make. Sorta like me asking you why you bought your wheels. I honestly think they are fugly... but you like them and who the hell am I to ask why you bought them?
Time to close this stupid thread.

That's real...lol different strokes for different folks. Real rap though, never heard someone say the wheels didn't match the car. Lol don't get in your feelings my dude. I like the look of your car, never really seen a ugly Z regardless of the cosmetic difference...but your good

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-K...o/_MG_7183.JPG

Nope... no tag there. So that must not be it.

And it sounds like you get confused easily. The concept that people bought the Nismo for something other than just the 18 extra hp seems to elude you. The concept that you can actually sell your Nismo parts to non-Nismo owners for money seems to still escape you as well. Numbers also don't seem to be your friend. You also seem to have a great deal of trouble differentiating between your OPINION and FACT.

I would love to see how you would do a tune, suspension, body kit, rims/tires, exhaust and be cheaper than the Nismo.

Again, none of your "I bought my car USED for $27k" so I'm going to compare that price to the MSRP of the Nismo. As MJB said... don't try and come in here and play innocent. If you don't like the Nismo so much, why do you keep posting in the Nismo sub forum?

Cause we get an epic wing and you don't. Nah nah nah boo boo. :happydance:

Dude, cars are like woman, you have the one that you like, feels your needs, and can afford. In my case the Nismo was my poison...

So this is correct?

yes most likely... within a few hp... but you are gonna spend a chuck to do so
and assuming you have a shop who can tune it for you

Well, the motor is the same. So if the intake, exhaust and tune are the same, output will be the same, or so close the difference can be written off as dyno variance.

I'm considering a Nismo, so I'm NOT anti Nismo
 

As far as the tune, the H.P. gain is at the engine, not at the wheels. I THINK a Osires uprev tune can add more H.P. than that factory one. When mods like test pipes or exhaust or just about any mod is added, the Osires tune woulds make even more sense. With a custom tune you can also have your redline raised.

huh? think about what you wrote, and then hit yourself in the head with a book.. and then re-write it...

???? Please explain
 

???^^^^^^ I don't get it^^^^????

the tune only gets you hp at the engine? engine hp translates into wheel HP...

The Nismo/Nissan H.P is taken at the engine, so the 18(I believe is the number?) extra H.P that the Nismo reports would be much less on all the dynos we use that read H.P at the wheels. Got it???? No need to apologize:)

The numbers are taken are BHP, but it still translates to more power to the wheels. Your statement makes it sound as tho, you would only gain BHP and no wheel hp... got it?


the base Z is the same way incase you were still unsure of yourself