Interest is New Intake Design? Looking for a test car!

Jordo! · 08-20-2012, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by 4r3s

so the idea here is to build a cold air intake that lives in the engine bay? I'm failing to see the point of this design otherwise or how it is improvement over existing designs. On that brz you might as well just hook the cone filter up right up to the manifold. Its been a while since I've had thermo dynamics in college and I might be a bit rusty but as far as I can tell that box is doing nothing other than looking awkward. I'm not trying to bash the design, just haven't been able to wrap my mind around how it's better than whats already available and would love to be educated.

Read my points in first post, click on link to see example of Swift's work. The key is the elliptical bellmouth design for improved flow dynamics and complete enclosure plus OEM ducting for optimal heat shielding. Also, ease of installation and cleaning and pretty underhood bling.

Whether or not it actually outperforms any existing intake is an empirical question, which cannot be answered without building and testing it... hence the thread.

I have no pre-existing relationship with Swift -- just saw the design and thought it would be a great option for us...

eastwest2300 · 08-20-2012, 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Jordo!

Read my points in first post, click on link to see example of Swift's work. The key is the elliptical bellmouth design for improved flow dynamics and complete enclosure plus OEM ducting for optimal heat shielding. Also, ease of installation and cleaning and pretty underhood bling.

Whether or not it actually outperforms any existing intake is an empirical question, which cannot be answered without building and testing it... hence the thread.

I have no pre-existing relationship with Swift -- just saw the design and thought it would be a great option for us...

Thanks Jordo, I got both your PM's, I'll be calling them tomorrow to hopefully set something up.

gomer_110 · 08-20-2012, 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by 4r3s

so the idea here is to build a cold air intake that lives in the engine bay? I'm failing to see the point of this design otherwise or how it is improvement over existing designs. On that brz you might as well just hook the cone filter up right up to the manifold. Its been a while since I've had thermo dynamics in college and I might be a bit rusty but as far as I can tell that box is doing nothing other than looking awkward. I'm not trying to bash the design, just haven't been able to wrap my mind around how it's better than whats already available and would love to be educated.

Looking at the sketch, they're going for a velocity stack setup. Just do a search on google and you'll learn all you need to know about the science behind velocity stacks.

In for dyno results.

eastwest2300 · 08-20-2012, 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by gomer_110

Looking at the sketch, they're going for a velocity stack setup. Just do a search on google and you'll learn all you need to know about the science behind velocity stacks.

In for dyno results.

Is it gonna work?

gomer_110 · 08-20-2012, 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by eastwest2300

Is it gonna work?

fwiw the sites I've come across tend to say that a good velocity stack design that is properly tuned for the motor they're on are good for a 2-4% gain. Don't know how true that is but on a Nismo that would be anywhere from 7 to 14 hp.

eastwest2300 · 08-20-2012, 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by gomer_110

fwiw the sites I've come across tend to say that a good velocity stack design that is properly tuned for the motor they're on are good for a 2-4% gain. Don't know how true that is but on a Nismo that would be anywhere from 7 to 14 hp.

Nice!! heck yeah man. Thats sweet.

b1adesofcha0s · 08-20-2012, 12:57 PM

I'd do this for the G3 comparison, but with the Z being my only car I can't really have it sitting in the shop for a while getting tested. Either way, I'm in for results. I don't see how this will do as well as the G3's either.

eastwest2300 · 08-20-2012, 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by b1adesofcha0s

I'd do this for the G3 comparison, but with the Z being my only car I can't really have it sitting in the shop for a while getting tested. Either way, I'm in for results. I don't see how this will do as well as the G3's either.

Unlike you Blades, they can have my Z for as long as they want, I have the S2000. I think this sounds cool, so Im down for it.

b1adesofcha0s · 08-20-2012, 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by eastwest2300

Unlike you Blades, they can have my Z for as long as they want, I have the S2000. I think this sounds cool, so Im down for it.

Unlike you, I have intakes installed already. Did you put a special request in to have them hand you the intakes uninstalled after they finish development? Trollolololol

eastwest2300 · 08-20-2012, 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by b1adesofcha0s

Unlike you, I have intakes installed already. Did you put a special request in to have them hand you the intakes uninstalled after they finish development? Trollolololol

Everything I do, I do for you buddy... dont need no HFCs, dont need this and dont need that, all i need to do is smoke your little runned down Z, and life is good.

b1adesofcha0s · 08-20-2012, 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by eastwest2300

Everything I do, I do for you buddy... dont need no HFCs, dont need this and dont need that, all i need to do is smoke your little runned down Z, and life is good.

Talk is cheap bro. I can back mine up, you can't do sh1t

Ok let's take this to another thread since this one is actually trying to be useful.

eastwest2300 · 08-21-2012, 01:08 AM

So when the trolls (that be you) come talking trash, talking about my car is this and that, and lets go to the track...blah blah blah... I can be ready, without all the wear and tear on the Z..

Dont worry, my Z wants some, and you'll get your chance, so come get some...

wstar · 08-21-2012, 01:58 AM

Sounds like an interesting project. You might want to google around these forums for the custom intakes that Modshack made a while back, some of the concepts and lessons are similar.

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Originally Posted by Jordo!

2. Absolutely zero chance of hydrolock

If the G3's suck water, you've already got other problems (like, you drove into a lake). The filters are up on top of the crash beam in a pocket, the water has to go above the crash beam line and reverse direction to reach them. I've driven the G3 in some pretty torrential conditions, never an issue. Pic from out my windshield driving around with newly-installed G3's a few years ago:

MightyBobo · 08-21-2012, 08:26 AM

I feel all of this frustration between you two, D/Shahid. When are you guys going to challenge each others to fisticuffs....or admit that the sexual tension between you two is at the breaking point?

b1adesofcha0s · 08-21-2012, 08:37 AM

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I feel all of this frustration between you two, D/Shahid. When are you guys going to challenge each others to fisticuffs....or admit that the sexual tension between you two is the breaking point?

At a certain someone's housewarming orgy

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eastwest2300 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2010 Location: South FL Posts: 91,035 Drives: '16QX70/'21 Supra3.0 Rep Power: 2684553	So when the trolls (that be you) come talking trash, talking about my car is this and that, and lets go to the track...blah blah blah... I can be ready, without all the wear and tear on the Z.. Dont worry, my Z wants some, and you'll get your chance, so come get some... __________________ Infiniti QX70 & Toyota Supra 3.0 Premium

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