NoVa Emmissions - Opinions Needed

elliotty · 02-23-2012, 01:50 PM

Those things are pointless, especially up here. They drink gas/diesel and get in the WAY!

Are the tickets from those evil vans pricey? I can't imagine they are cheap.

m4a1mustang · 02-23-2012, 02:16 PM

Yeah I think it is.

Cristobal09 · 02-23-2012, 03:44 PM

How CAN they cheat it? Since what it reads is what goes into the system?

GM_Traitor3.5 · 02-23-2012, 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Cristobal09

How CAN they cheat it? Since what it reads is what goes into the system?

A lot of times they'll use an OBD scan from a similar clean car, but still use the correct VIN from the dirty car so that as far as the DMV knows, everything matches up. Now if its a pre 1996 car which still needs the tailpipe sniffer and dyno, it's even easier for them to cheat.

elliotty · 02-23-2012, 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Cristobal09

How CAN they cheat it? Since what it reads is what goes into the system?

I would think it would be tough, depending on how automated the process is.

The only way I will be able to get past the hurdle is garaging the car in a test-free county or getting it tested and hoping it passes. From reading through information online, it looks like for newer vehicles, up to 1 emissions-related system can register as "Not Ready". So, if my secondary o2 sensors register as "Not Ready", maybe I could still slide through? Who knows, maybe this is just wishful thinking on my part.

GM_Traitor3.5 · 02-23-2012, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by elliotty

I would think it would be tough, depending on how automated the process is.

The only way I will be able to get past the hurdle is garaging the car in a test-free county or getting it tested and hoping it passes. From reading through information online, it looks like for newer vehicles, up to 1 emissions-related system can register as "Not Ready". So, if my secondary o2 sensors register as "Not Ready", maybe I could still slide through? Who knows, maybe this is just wishful thinking on my part.

The newer systems are pretty air-tight. Even if a pending trouble code hasn't triggered an actual CEL, you could still fail. Trouble with one part of the system showing as "not ready", especially O2 sensors, the inspector could then look deeper into the problem and then see what your setup is under the car.

Cristobal09 · 02-23-2012, 03:58 PM

And this is why im not touching my catalytic converter.

m4a1mustang · 02-23-2012, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Cristobal09

And this is why im not touching my catalytic converter.

I'll touch your cata....

wait... what?

elliotty · 02-23-2012, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Cristobal09

And this is why im not touching my catalytic converter.

Good call! Avoid the headaches in the first place. We'll see how I end up getting this resolved. At least I have some time. Maybe I just need to move

m4a1mustang · 02-23-2012, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by elliotty

Good call! Avoid the headaches in the first place. We'll see how I end up getting this resolved. At least I have some time. Maybe I just need to move

You won't be able to hide from it. All the regs and stuff with catch up to you. Soon everyone will be testing.

elliotty · 02-23-2012, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

You won't be able to hide from it. All the regs and stuff with catch up to you. Soon everyone will be testing.

Well luckily I only have to skate by until 12/21/2012, right?

Cristobal09 · 02-23-2012, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by elliotty

Well luckily I only have to skate by until 12/21/2012, right?

Exactly, thats why im spending money like theres no tomorrow.

Are you going to show up to the March 3rd meet in fairfax?

m4a1mustang · 02-23-2012, 04:23 PM

Jay and I have a tint date that morning but hopefully we'll be there to meet ya! That's right. Tint date.

Roadster4Us · 02-23-2012, 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

Jay and I have a tint date that morning but hopefully we'll be there to meet ya! That's right. Tint date.

Just make sure you use protection, Jay has been around the block a few times.

GM_Traitor3.5 · 02-24-2012, 07:35 AM

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Just make sure you use protection, Jay has been around the block a few times.

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