NOVA/DC/MD - Z's & Coffee Saturday's at 10AM in Fairfax, VA & Columbia, MD

MightyBobo · 01-09-2013, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by MyKindaGuise

In response to the comment expressing worriment: Guys dont worry about his questions.lol I like stuff that makes me question my own builds. Its the best ways of improving upon what you know. I dont know everything so I welcome others ideas

There are also 15 E85 stations within a 30 mile radius of me.

I know that fuel consumption will be 20-30% depending on tune but its also $.75-1 cheaper per gallon than premium here in my area. Im not too worried about VVEL as it has just been cracked and hopefully in a year or more support for it will be better. There are a handful of 600+whp Z's and G's now so they found a way to be able to do it. Honestly I havent gotten to far with anything regarding 500-550+whp as thats so far off for me so some of this I cant even answer haha. Final goal is 700whp but thats a while away. If im doing that im doing a whole new tranny and everything with sequential gearbox which most of that will come from qualife. But if im going 550+ I wont be going top mount. Im doing E85 just because I can.lol There is barely any diversity out there with this platform and I absolutely dislike that fact so im trying to be unique and just get some builds out there. In terms of heat the guys with the S&R top mounts are doing just fine btw. And I dont believe any have vented hoods....

Anyways this wil be mostly a show car and will be tracked once in a while but will only be tracked in spurts until enough testing is done to make sure everything is stable and reliable...within reason lol it is tracking after all. To accomdate that I will be doing new csc, clutch, flywheel, bigger brakes, more cooling, a bunch of other mods.

I think thats everything Im at work and there was a lot to respond to if anything doesnt make sense or was skipped...you have my apologies

Thank you, that was all I was going for (another perspective, maybe seeing something you didn't in your plans).

Nice on the gas stations, but do you know if they ever change their mix of ethanol throughout the year?

Sounds like you've got a solid plan, especially at post-550 horsepower levels...look forward to seeing it! Sequential tranny is serious money, btw...you auto or stick right now?

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MyKindaGuise · 01-09-2013, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by MightyBobo

Can't have a race car and expect it to be clean. Furthermore, if I (or anyone else who respects a well done car) saw a well done race car, I wouldn't give a **** how pretty it is.

Race cars and show cars are almost two different interests completely. You can have a clean race car that can do both, but that doesn't mean you need to do mods that are counterproductive to how WELL the car races. A top mount turbo would likely do just that, in my opinion.

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Dude I saw this and at first I was like wow this guy is really disappointed in me.lol Then I realized it was before I posted my bigass response lmao.

Then I saw this...

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Originally Posted by MightyBobo

Thank you, that was all I was going for (another perspective, maybe seeing something you didn't in your plans).

Nice on the gas stations, but do you know if they ever change their mix of ethanol throughout the year?

Sounds like you've got a solid plan, especially at post-550 horsepower levels...look forward to seeing it! Sequential tranny is serious money, btw...you auto or stick right now?

Sent from my Galaxy S3

Thank you. I enjoy these more indepth forum talks like I said above.

Honestly Most of these stations are "Sheetz" and they have all been rebuilt within the past year so I am not to sure on their practices yet as they are all new. I expect this trend to follow and more gas stations will be being rebuilt with an E85 pump. I use an Android app called "Flex-Fuel" and it lists all stations via google maps.

Ive been puttingtogether this plan over the past few months and really loooking into everything alot and I have a great friend who knows an incredible ammount more than I do who has been able to guide me. I think the most exciting thing with this build is that the HC1 turbos LOVE high pressure airflow so it is going to allow us to utilize really small manifold piping up to the turbo which cuts down on cost, less thick piping also means more room for airflow, and give us more room to work and do crazy piping layouts.

And Im 6MT with synchrorev. And yes Seq GBs are expensive as a mother haha. Like 9.5k for gearbox and transmission. Its been a while since I looked but I beleive thats what it was haha.

MightyBobo · 01-09-2013, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by MyKindaGuise

Dude I saw this and at first I was like wow this guy is really disappointed in me.lol Then I realized it was before I posted my bigass response lmao.

Then I saw this...

Thank you. I enjoy these more indepth forum talks like I said above.

Honestly Most of these stations are "Sheetz" and they have all been rebuilt within the past year so I am not to sure on their practices yet as they are all new. I expect this trend to follow and more gas stations will be being rebuilt with an E85 pump. I use an Android app called "Flex-Fuel" and it lists all stations via google maps.

Ive been puttingtogether this plan over the past few months and really loooking into everything alot and I have a great friend who knows an incredible ammount more than I do who has been able to guide me. I think the most exciting thing with this build is that the HC1 turbos LOVE high pressure airflow so it is going to allow us to utilize really small manifold piping up to the turbo which cuts down on cost, less thick piping also means more room for airflow, and give us more room to work and do crazy piping layouts.

And Im 6MT with synchrorev. And yes Seq GBs are expensive as a mother haha. Like 9.5k for gearbox and transmission. Its been a while since I looked but I beleive thats what it was haha.

Just making sure you knew what you're getting into, is all.

Don't take it the wrong way, but I've known quite a few people who suddenly jump into the car game with tons of money, and are like, "I wanna do EVERYTHING!" - but they don't know what they are getting themselves into. Like, you see it at a car show and feel, "Wow, that's totally cool, I want to do that!" - I can understand that feeling, because I've been there before.

But, if your goal was to make a track beast, I wanted to know, that top mount would cause you trouble down the road more than likely. The heat soak could be problems, and could you imagine if your turbo seals went, or you simply blew a fitting with it there? Helloooooo INFERNO.

I'm never disappointed with peoples plans as long as they have an end goal, and their method for getting there is reasonable. For instance, If your end goal was to simply have a pretty car that did 550WHP? I wouldn't care what you did at all...a "numbers queen" is just that. Just look at every 1000HP Supra on the road now, that never see's anything more than an occasional 50-100 pull on public roads. But if your goal was, "I want to be a race car driver, and this is the build I'm going to use to get there", I'd quickly try to tell you that it's not a reasonable way to approach that.

Your goal is, "I want a fast car that looks good, and occasionally hits the track, but nothing more". Sounds good to me. Just make sure you do your supporting mods, and be prepared for the potential to wreck it is all.

You have any track experience yet? If not, might I recommend joining a good bunch of us at Summit Point on May 18-19? Getting your feet wet with it can't come soon enough. It's harder to learn to drive fast with a fast car, than it is with a slower car.

MyKindaGuise · 01-09-2013, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by MightyBobo

Just making sure you knew what you're getting into, is all.

Don't take it the wrong way, but I've known quite a few people who suddenly jump into the car game with tons of money, and are like, "I wanna do EVERYTHING!" - but they don't know what they are getting themselves into. Like, you see it at a car show and feel, "Wow, that's totally cool, I want to do that!" - I can understand that feeling, because I've been there before.

But, if your goal was to make a track beast, I wanted to know, that top mount would cause you trouble down the road more than likely. The heat soak could be problems, and could you imagine if your turbo seals went, or you simply blew a fitting with it there? Helloooooo INFERNO.

I'm never disappointed with peoples plans as long as they have an end goal, and their method for getting there is reasonable. For instance, If your end goal was to simply have a pretty car that did 550WHP? I wouldn't care what you did at all...a "numbers queen" is just that. Just look at every 1000HP Supra on the road now, that never see's anything more than an occasional 50-100 pull on public roads. But if your goal was, "I want to be a race car driver, and this is the build I'm going to use to get there", I'd quickly try to tell you that it's not a reasonable way to approach that.

Your goal is, "I want a fast car that looks good, and occasionally hits the track, but nothing more". Sounds good to me. Just make sure you do your supporting mods, and be prepared for the potential to wreck it is all.

You have any track experience yet? If not, might I recommend joining a good bunch of us at Summit Point on May 18-19? Getting your feet wet with it can't come soon enough. It's harder to learn to drive fast with a fast car, than it is with a slower car.

Yeah I completely understand. I really just got into cars recently in all honesty. I always wanted a 350z since I saw one when I was in junior high and then shortly after high school I was able to buy a 370z. I never really even cared that much about cars I just wanted something kinda fast and that looked stunning. However after buying the 370z things started to change and I just started reading and learning as much I could on anything automotive be it regarding this car or anything else. A year later Im looking to do a in my opinion a modest build. If I was going to hardcore track I would be doing my build completely different. But for the time to time I think it will do good. I dotn want to be the stereotypical car that never does anything and is just built and does the occasional roll race because I know those types and their cars and that just isnt fun to me.

I would certainly love to tag along. I dont have much track experience, im really young.lol I would certainly be up for any training/practice/tips and tricks I could be given. Ill look into this event or if you could message me any details that would be great!

MightyBobo · 01-09-2013, 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by MyKindaGuise

Yeah I completely understand. I really just got into cars recently in all honesty. I always wanted a 350z since I saw one when I was in junior high and then shortly after high school I was able to buy a 370z. I never really even cared that much about cars I just wanted something kinda fast and that looked stunning. However after buying the 370z things started to change and I just started reading and learning as much I could on anything automotive be it regarding this car or anything else. A year later Im looking to do a in my opinion a modest build. If I was going to hardcore track I would be doing my build completely different. But for the time to time I think it will do good. I dotn want to be the stereotypical car that never does anything and is just built and does the occasional roll race because I know those types and their cars and that just isnt fun to me.

I would certainly love to tag along. I dont have much track experience, im really young.lol I would certainly be up for any training/practice/tips and tricks I could be given. Ill look into this event or if you could message me any details that would be great!

PM-ed info.

For anyone else who wants to nut up:

https://www.trackdaze.com/index.php/...henandoah-2013

MightyBobo · 01-09-2013, 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by MyKindaGuise

Honestly Most of these stations are "Sheetz" and they have all been rebuilt within the past year so I am not to sure on their practices yet as they are all new. I expect this trend to follow and more gas stations will be being rebuilt with an E85 pump. I use an Android app called "Flex-Fuel" and it lists all stations via google maps.

Ive been puttingtogether this plan over the past few months and really loooking into everything alot and I have a great friend who knows an incredible ammount more than I do who has been able to guide me. I think the most exciting thing with this build is that the HC1 turbos LOVE high pressure airflow so it is going to allow us to utilize really small manifold piping up to the turbo which cuts down on cost, less thick piping also means more room for airflow, and give us more room to work and do crazy piping layouts.

And Im 6MT with synchrorev. And yes Seq GBs are expensive as a mother haha. Like 9.5k for gearbox and transmission. Its been a while since I looked but I beleive thats what it was haha.

****, before I forget - so, E85 can change mixes throughout the year at some places. If they do, tune the E85 conservatively and you should be ok. If you make a tight tune, and that mix changes even a little bit....yeah...

Pricing it in my head, your final build is already approaching 25-30K. Your "FIRST" build approaching 10K-ish. But you likely know that already.

MyKindaGuise · 01-09-2013, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by MightyBobo

****, before I forget - so, E85 can change mixes throughout the year at some places. If they do, tune the E85 conservatively and you should be ok. If you make a tight tune, and that mix changes even a little bit....yeah...

Pricing it in my head, your final build is already approaching 25-30K. Your "FIRST" build approaching 10K-ish. But you likely know that already.

Okay good to know...once it goes in for the initial tune I will be buying uprev to tune myself and make little adjustments. My friends is very exeperienced with MegaSquirt tuning and knows how to adjust tunes or tune from the ground up.

10k though isnt even close. message me if you want more detail its surprising.lol

MightyBobo · 01-09-2013, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by MyKindaGuise

Okay good to know...once it goes in for the initial tune I will be buying uprev to tune myself and make little adjustments. My friends is very exeperienced with MegaSquirt tuning and knows how to adjust tunes or tune from the ground up.

10k though isnt even close. message me if you want more detail its surprising.lol

All you had to say was Megasquirt. I had a friend very fluent in that back when it wasnt even a known thing, YEARS ago.

If you're doing this ALL garage-style then? 4-5K.

MyKindaGuise · 01-09-2013, 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by MightyBobo

All you had to say was Megasquirt. I had a friend very fluent in that back when it wasnt even a known thing, YEARS ago.

If you're doing this ALL garage-style then? 4-5K.

Ha yeah MS is awesome. New version just came out last month that can do pretty much anything imaginable. And yes about 4-5k but once I sell headers and exhaust that'll drop to 2-3k (:

And for the record there are 5 of us. Paul, Rob, Chris, myself and maybe my buddy. PA boys are coming in full force haha

italy3541 · 01-09-2013, 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by MyKindaGuise

Ha yeah MS is awesome. New version just came out last month that can do pretty much anything imaginable. And yes about 4-5k but once I sell headers and exhaust that'll drop to 2-3k (:

And for the record there are 5 of us. Paul, Rob, Chris, myself and maybe my buddy. PA boys are coming in full force haha

i just texted rob he is down to meet up at my house before we roll out.. hell yeah!!

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