NOVA/DC/MD - Z's & Coffee Saturday's at 10AM in Fairfax, VA & Columbia, MD

dmhenderson · 01-23-2013, 03:28 PM

And uh...electrocuting your dog is not the solution either. I'm hoping that was a joke.

Those collars work well for boundary training because those collars emit a high pitched tone right before the dog gets zapped. The dog will(very quickly) learn to associate the warning tone with the impending zap so the dog really isn't traumatized.

You can't use a shock collar for aversion training. That's just cruel. If you are really electrocuting your dog rather than training it, you need to seek help and/or not own a dog. It'll result in a hostile/fearful response from the dog which is a very bad thing. A stern "no" or a spray bottle/can full of pennies will achieve a similar response without y'know...shocking the everloving sh*t out of your animal.

My advice:
-Training and repetition are always the keys to success.

-Dogs love schedules. Morning/evening walks to get the crazies out will help immensely ESPECIALLY with a high-energy breed that likes to roam like a Pit. My dogs aren't even crated during the day anymore and I have zero accidents and zero destroyed yard/furniture.

-Either crate her during the day so she gets used to the idea that while you're gone, that's her downtime or keep her inside.

-Supervise her play outside. Correct her IMMEDIATELY if she begins to dig.

-Reward good behavior.

If you do the above, you can break the habit - I promise. It just takes time and patience. Don't expect an instant fix. It will probably take a couple months to fully break her of the habit but it can be done.

4r3s · 01-23-2013, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by dmhenderson

And uh...electrocuting your dog is not the solution either. I'm hoping that was a joke.

Those collars work well for boundary training because those collars emit a high pitched tone right before the dog gets zapped. The dog will(very quickly) learn to associate the warning tone with the impending zap so the dog really isn't traumatized.

You can't use a shock collar for aversion training. That's just cruel. If you are really electrocuting your dog rather than training it, you need to seek help and/or not own a dog. It'll result in a hostile/fearful response from the dog which is a very bad thing. A stern "no" or a spray bottle/can full of pennies will achieve a similar response without y'know...shocking the everloving sh*t out of your animal.

My advice:
-Training and repetition are always the keys to success.

-Dogs love schedules. Morning/evening walks to get the crazies out will help immensely ESPECIALLY with a high-energy breed that likes to roam like a Pit. My dogs aren't even crated during the day anymore and I have zero accidents and zero destroyed yard/furniture.

-Either crate her during the day so she gets used to the idea that while you're gone, that's her downtime or keep her inside.

-Supervise her play outside. Correct her IMMEDIATELY if she begins to dig.

-Reward good behavior.

If you do the above, you can break the habit - I promise. It just takes time and patience. Don't expect an instant fix. It will probably take a couple months to fully break her of the habit but it can be done.

I wasn't joking at all. But yeah you do the high pitch warning first clearly and if she continues you give her a shock. I wouldn't ever shock an animal without trying it out on myself first.

dmhenderson · 01-23-2013, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by 4r3s

I wasn't joking at all. But yeah you do the high pitch warning first clearly and if she continues you give her a shock. I wouldn't ever shock an animal without trying it out on myself first.

Shock collars shouldn't ever be used for aversion training in my opinion. It's a totally different message.

It's:

1) If you approach the edge of your territory you will be warned, if you attempt to cross the barrier, you will get a shock.

versus

2) If you do something I don't like I will hurt you.

Just my two cents. Take it or leave it.

eastwest2300 · 01-23-2013, 04:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dmhenderson

Shock collars shouldn't ever be used for aversion training in my opinion. It's a totally different message.

It's:

1) If you approach the edge of your territory you will be warned, if you attempt to cross the barrier, you will get a shock.

versus

2) If you do something I don't like I will hurt you.

Just my two cents. Take it or leave it.

I can agree with that.

eastwest2300 · 01-23-2013, 04:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dmhenderson

And uh...electrocuting your dog is not the solution either. I'm hoping that was a joke.

Those collars work well for boundary training because those collars emit a high pitched tone right before the dog gets zapped. The dog will(very quickly) learn to associate the warning tone with the impending zap so the dog really isn't traumatized.

You can't use a shock collar for aversion training. That's just cruel. If you are really electrocuting your dog rather than training it, you need to seek help and/or not own a dog. It'll result in a hostile/fearful response from the dog which is a very bad thing. A stern "no" or a spray bottle/can full of pennies will achieve a similar response without y'know...shocking the everloving sh*t out of your animal.

My advice:
-Training and repetition are always the keys to success.

-Dogs love schedules. Morning/evening walks to get the crazies out will help immensely ESPECIALLY with a high-energy breed that likes to roam like a Pit. My dogs aren't even crated during the day anymore and I have zero accidents and zero destroyed yard/furniture.

-Either crate her during the day so she gets used to the idea that while you're gone, that's her downtime or keep her inside.

-Supervise her play outside. Correct her IMMEDIATELY if she begins to dig.

-Reward good behavior.

If you do the above, you can break the habit - I promise. It just takes time and patience. Don't expect an instant fix. It will probably take a couple months to fully break her of the habit but it can be done.

Thanks Mark, good information there, and trust me dude, I swear Im not zapping my dog.

dmhenderson · 01-23-2013, 03:31 PM

Also worth mentioning that dogs are social creatures that crave company. I had serious problems with frank howling and (literally) eating the walls until I got Stoli. After I got her, no more howling/screeching and no more impromptu drywall repair sessions.

MyKindaGuise · 01-23-2013, 07:26 PM

So guys..I was busy drinking and youtubing tonight. And I came across this.... The video is fantastic and the comments are just as good. Enjoy the picture LMAO

eastwest2300 · 01-24-2013, 08:24 AM

Good Morning Everyone!

m4a1mustang · 01-24-2013, 08:25 AM

Snow!

chieuxuan · 01-24-2013, 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

Snow!

Damn, that car looks so nice, mind an even trade for the Z?

eastwest2300 · 01-24-2013, 08:26 AM

Thats a nice looking S2000!

m4a1mustang · 01-24-2013, 08:27 AM

TY TY. I'm glad I didn't wash it this weekend.

eastwest2300 · 01-24-2013, 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

TY TY. I'm glad I didn't wash it this weekend.

Yeah, I thought about it, Im glad I didnt wash mine either..

shadoquad · 01-24-2013, 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by eastwest2300

Yeah, I thought about it, Im glad I didnt wash mine either..

Me three. I need a nice warm Sunday to bathe my beauties.

dmhenderson · 01-24-2013, 08:33 AM

Garaged. Looking like Sat/Sun before I can even take it out.

01-23-2013, 03:28 PM	#1 (permalink)
dmhenderson A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Maryland Posts: 5,930 Drives: AWD TT 370z Rep Power: 27	And uh...electrocuting your dog is not the solution either. I'm hoping that was a joke. Those collars work well for boundary training because those collars emit a high pitched tone right before the dog gets zapped. The dog will(very quickly) learn to associate the warning tone with the impending zap so the dog really isn't traumatized. You can't use a shock collar for aversion training. That's just cruel. If you are really electrocuting your dog rather than training it, you need to seek help and/or not own a dog. It'll result in a hostile/fearful response from the dog which is a very bad thing. A stern "no" or a spray bottle/can full of pennies will achieve a similar response without y'know...shocking the everloving sh*t out of your animal. My advice: -Training and repetition are always the keys to success. -Dogs love schedules. Morning/evening walks to get the crazies out will help immensely ESPECIALLY with a high-energy breed that likes to roam like a Pit. My dogs aren't even crated during the day anymore and I have zero accidents and zero destroyed yard/furniture. -Either crate her during the day so she gets used to the idea that while you're gone, that's her downtime or keep her inside. -Supervise her play outside. Correct her IMMEDIATELY if she begins to dig. -Reward good behavior. If you do the above, you can break the habit - I promise. It just takes time and patience. Don't expect an instant fix. It will probably take a couple months to fully break her of the habit but it can be done. __________________

01-23-2013, 03:31 PM	#6 (permalink)
dmhenderson A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Maryland Posts: 5,930 Drives: AWD TT 370z Rep Power: 27	Also worth mentioning that dogs are social creatures that crave company. I had serious problems with frank howling and (literally) eating the walls until I got Stoli. After I got her, no more howling/screeching and no more impromptu drywall repair sessions. __________________

01-24-2013, 08:24 AM	#8 (permalink)
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eastwest2300 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2010 Location: South FL Posts: 91,031 Drives: '16QX70/'21 Supra3.0 Rep Power: 2684552	Thats a nice looking S2000! __________________ Infiniti QX70 & Toyota Supra 3.0 Premium

01-24-2013, 08:27 AM	#12 (permalink)
m4a1mustang A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Northern VA Posts: 55,385 Drives: on two wheels Rep Power: 6963	TY TY. I'm glad I didn't wash it this weekend. __________________ - Steve Zs & Coffee - Saturdays at 10AM in Fairfax, VA and Columbia, MD (Click the banner!) LIKE us on Facebook!

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dmhenderson A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Maryland Posts: 5,930 Drives: AWD TT 370z Rep Power: 27	Garaged. Looking like Sat/Sun before I can even take it out. __________________

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