NOVA: Zs & Coffee - Starbucks every Saturday @ 10AM

Sscottfitz · 07-02-2010, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by 2theextreme

Also, if anyone is going to be around this weekend and wants to do the usual Starbuck's meet....I'm up for it.

I think we're gonna swing by, at least for a little bit -- will probably do lunch someplace as well.....

PapoZalsa · 07-02-2010, 05:11 PM

At leat yours meet is at 10AM, down here is at 8AM, damn early for a Saturday.

TROOPER · 07-02-2010, 06:23 PM

Printing directions now, I'll be there

m4a1mustang · 07-03-2010, 07:28 AM

OK so I'm not sure how long you guys are going to be there, but I'll probably be late (10:30 or later). Gonna be in Springfield for a bit this morning.

Sscottfitz · 07-03-2010, 08:29 AM

We'll wait for ya Steve-O, I may be a hair late this morning too.

We ARE thinking about lunch someplace?

TROOPER · 07-03-2010, 07:02 PM

Great to meet all you guys today, hope to make it down again.

2theextreme · 07-03-2010, 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by TROOPER

Great to meet all you guys today, hope to make it down again.

Ditto! Hope you can make it for the 17th of July @ Chantilly Nissan meet. That should be fun!

(I'm betting we'll have lunch at Ruby Tuesday's.....*hint hint*!)

Sscottfitz · 07-03-2010, 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by TROOPER

Great to meet all you guys today, hope to make it down again.

Back at ya Darren -- nice Nismo -- look forward to seeing you next time.

m4a1mustang · 07-03-2010, 07:45 PM

Nice meeting you, Trooper!

Sweetwater was pretty good. Never been there before. As always, I had a great time. See you all next weekend!

2theextreme · 07-03-2010, 07:46 PM

Dang....I have too many lights on my Z. But what about those Audi's? They have like 12 LED's under their headlights.....I only have 9! Yeah yeah, blah blah their lights came that way....so what? Kiss my arse.....the lights on my Z.......

STAY!!!!

Sscottfitz · 07-03-2010, 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by 2theextreme

Dang....I have too many lights on my Z. But what about those Audi's? They have like 12 LED's under their headlights.....I only have 9! Yeah yeah, blah blah their lights came that way....so what? Kiss my arse.....the lights on my Z.......

STAY!!!!

THE QUESTION -- is it too many lights OR too many light GROUPS........and WHAT IS THE NUMBER?

m4a1mustang · 07-03-2010, 07:57 PM

So a quick search of the Code reveals...

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§ 46.2-1030. When lights to be lighted; number of lights to be lighted at any time; use of warning lights.

B. Not more than four lights used to provide general illumination ahead of the vehicle, including at least two headlights and any other combination of fog lights or other auxiliary lights approved by the Superintendent, shall be lighted at any time. However, this limitation shall not preclude the display of warning lights authorized in §§ 46.2-1020 through 46.2-1027, or other lights as may be authorized by the Superintendent.

http://leg1.state.va.us/cgi-bin/legp....2-1030+500541

Reading through 46.2-1020 to 46.2-1027 there is no mention of LEDs as approved lighting, so it really comes down to what the definition of "general illumination ahead of the vehicle" is, I think. Unless I'm missing something, even the Audi LEDs could be questioned.

My guess is the officer didn't write you up for the front lights because she didn't really think there was anything illegal about them... she might have thought that at first but after a little more thought it becomes apparent that it's terribly unclear.

m4a1mustang · 07-03-2010, 08:00 PM

I would definitely replace the blue license plate lights, though. That is probably what really gets you pulled over.

Also, find some way to reduce the output of that fog light. It is TERRIBLY bright. When I follow your car I feel like tailgating you so I don't have to look at the foglight!

Sscottfitz · 07-03-2010, 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

So a quick search of the Code reveals...

Reading through 46.2-1020 to 46.2-1027 there is no mention of LEDs as approved lighting, so it really comes down to what the definition of "general illumination ahead of the vehicle" is, I think. Unless I'm missing something, even the Audi LEDs could be questioned.

My guess is the officer didn't write you up for the front lights because she didn't really think there was anything illegal about them... she might have thought that at first but after a little more thought it becomes apparent that it's terribly unclear.

Soooo, it almost sounds like for "general illumination ahead of the vehicle", the number is 4, but that still doesn't address the definition of "a light" -- example, is a bar of LEDs that are in a group count as a light OR is each individual BULB count as a light..........

I hate rain delays.......

m4a1mustang · 07-03-2010, 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Sscottfitz

Soooo, it almost sounds like for "general illumination ahead of the vehicle", the number is 4, but that still doesn't address the definition of "a light" -- example, is a bar of LEDs that are in a group count as a light OR is each individual BULB count as a light..........

I hate rain delays.......

My guess is the law is going to define each individual LED as a "light." If you read through the code it gets very specific about the maximum output of certain lights, including any one interior bulb (no greater than 15 candlepower... could LED interior lights be illegal?

).

Gotta love the Commonwealth.

07-02-2010, 05:11 PM	#992 (permalink)
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07-02-2010, 06:23 PM	#993 (permalink)
TROOPER A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 1,297 Drives: Your Tax Dollars Rep Power: 16	Printing directions now, I'll be there __________________ Darren "Guv Motors Passion Wagon"

07-03-2010, 07:28 AM	#994 (permalink)
m4a1mustang A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Northern VA Posts: 55,385 Drives: on two wheels Rep Power: 6962	OK so I'm not sure how long you guys are going to be there, but I'll probably be late (10:30 or later). Gonna be in Springfield for a bit this morning. __________________ - Steve Zs & Coffee - Saturdays at 10AM in Fairfax, VA and Columbia, MD (Click the banner!) LIKE us on Facebook!

07-03-2010, 08:29 AM	#995 (permalink)
Sscottfitz Track Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Fairfax, VA Posts: 859 Drives: 10 ZR Blk-o-PW Rep Power: 16	We'll wait for ya Steve-O, I may be a hair late this morning too. We ARE thinking about lunch someplace? __________________ 2010 Z Roadster A.S.S. (All Stock Stuff)

07-03-2010, 07:02 PM	#996 (permalink)
TROOPER A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 1,297 Drives: Your Tax Dollars Rep Power: 16	Great to meet all you guys today, hope to make it down again. __________________ Darren "Guv Motors Passion Wagon"

07-03-2010, 07:45 PM	#999 (permalink)
m4a1mustang A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Northern VA Posts: 55,385 Drives: on two wheels Rep Power: 6962	Nice meeting you, Trooper! Sweetwater was pretty good. Never been there before. As always, I had a great time. See you all next weekend! __________________ - Steve Zs & Coffee - Saturdays at 10AM in Fairfax, VA and Columbia, MD (Click the banner!) LIKE us on Facebook!

07-03-2010, 07:46 PM	#1000 (permalink)
2theextreme RIP Tony :( (1969-2015) Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 18,802 Drives: '14 Mustang GT/CS Rep Power: 67	Dang....I have too many lights on my Z. But what about those Audi's? They have like 12 LED's under their headlights.....I only have 9! Yeah yeah, blah blah their lights came that way....so what? Kiss my arse.....the lights on my Z....... *STAY!!!!* __________________ SpinTech Mufflers, Airaid CAI, JBA H-Pipe, Lethal Performance Over Axle Pipes, MMD Quarter Panel Louvers, Cervini's Ram Air Type IV Hood, Carbon Fiber Radiator Cover, GT500 Rear Valance, Quad Exhaust Tips

07-03-2010, 08:00 PM	#1003 (permalink)
m4a1mustang A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Northern VA Posts: 55,385 Drives: on two wheels Rep Power: 6962	I would definitely replace the blue license plate lights, though. That is probably what really gets you pulled over. Also, find some way to reduce the output of that fog light. It is TERRIBLY bright. When I follow your car I feel like tailgating you so I don't have to look at the foglight! __________________ - Steve Zs & Coffee - Saturdays at 10AM in Fairfax, VA and Columbia, MD (Click the banner!) LIKE us on Facebook!

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