Sounds like something to look forward to. My GF wants a Z4M Coupe.

German engineering at it's finest worst! :eekdance:

All the smart Germans live down here now. :tup:

zee Germans

The germans still havent caught on about how to implement reliable electrical parts. In my year and a half of owning my 06 M3, I was cruising down the road and POOF!! 3 coil packs went out. I replaced them. Then two months later, the other 3 went out. When a company says you have to replace them after 40,000 miles, replace the rear diff fluid every 30,000 miles, replace the bushings after 50,000 miles, yada yada yada, its just not worth it. The newer beamers havent had that many issues, but then again, back in 01 when the E46 M3 first came out, they didnt have any issues with them until about 3 years later when people started putting on some miles and rod bearings started going....then vanos issues .

Makes me so happy I bought a car that doesnt have any of these issuese..... yet :icon14:

edit: dont get me started on my 06 MB clk500......it made the M3 look like a honda civic

^haha....the electrical gremlins....

It felt like every weekend I was messing with something electrical on my beemers (00s).



Newer ones have been great though. Maybe they got it, finally.....

We have an '03 CLK 500 so I know EXACTLY what you are talking about. :rofl2:

One thing with the Z... diff fluid changes every 30k are a good idea. Same with the transmission.

More like every 15k with the diff

If you drive hard, sure. But regular use 30k with a good diff fluid is not a bad idea. I'd get the factory fill out sooner.

I was driving in SOUTHEAST DC, had no clue where I was, it was 2 in the morning, half asleep, I was relying on it and the nav just cut out on me. Just turned off. When I drove around for an hour and got out onto 66, it magically came back on.

I was so mad I traded it in on a Honda Pilot 10 hours later.

:icon17:

At least the car didn't shut down in Southeast. :bowrofl:

I guess to be fair I probably never actually got a decent diff, but the black stone results I've seen point to 15-20k changes. Guess some of it depends on fluid choice too.

But that first change I would do ASAP. Factory fill is garbage.

I have 280 miles on my Z, after putting down 4 grand on it, I think ima wait before switching out the fluids as Im broke. I need to find a reliable Japanese shop. Owning nothing but german performance cars as my toys, my shop probably wont touch it.

No, it just shut down on 66 in traffic. EVERYTHING shut off. Almost like an EMP pulse hit it. I couldnt even put the car into neutral to push it off the road. (I had it in park cause traffic wasnt moving) So after waiting 20 minutes after calling AAA, guess what? Everything just turned back on.......

Almost sounds like the crank sensor. It goes bad a lot and the car will just shut down and die. Sometimes you can restart it sometimes you can't.

Of course it's a $50 part but it has to be programmed with STAR diagnostics and the labor is $700. :icon14:

This is why I'll never buy a German car. :(

I buy cars for the long term.

They can be annoying.

Things like proprietary $250 batteries are annoying.

If I were to buy a german car I would only own it for the warranty period and there would have to be a maintenance plan included in the purchase.

If we get a Z4 coupe or TT coupe it has to be CPO.

Or anywhere in MD for that matter :stirthepot:

Thing is, usually by the time warranty runs out, you can take the car someplace else and they will take good care of you. Both my 540s ran well past 250k with only minor issues ( and most of it was just inconvenient, not a real problem)

Word. DC + MD = stranger danger!

Mid-A = threadjackers.. :)

If you have a non-warranty issue during the warranty period, you pay through the nose on it. If you have any issue after warranty, you pay through the nose for it.

I'm not saying cheaper car companies are any more or less reliable, but when your cheap azz Fiord breaks down, it's a more survivable hit to the wallet.

:roflpuke2:

Depends what it is I guess. I've found BMW to define their warranty very broadly. Best company I've dealt with on that front, but like all things, everyone experiences things differently.

MD is safer. Less guns. Only crooks have them.

Thank goodness for that! :icon17: :rofl2:

:iagree:

I will admit, with the M3, it was extremely fun to drive. The straight 6 had a great sound, the smg shifted ultra quick, and the exhaust had a great note to it. But the issues like I mentioned a couple pages ago about the rear subframe tearing was a 4,000 dollar fix that stung pretty bad. My B7 S4 I owned had no issues except the horrendous gas mileage, and it was a little bland to drive. I am definitely sticking to this Z for awhile.

The Z is definitely going to be easier on the wallet. Aside from routine stuff it's mostly trouble free.

I'd like to make a plea to everyone who is on the forum in Virginia or Maryland to take advantage of the meetup.com site that Steve started this past summer. Not many of us are using it and I'm pretty sure Steve will probably stop spending the money to fund it should we continue to not utilize it. Its a way for the new Z owners to find us because they may not be aware of this forum. Mid-Atlantic 370Z Owner's Club (Fairfax, VA) - Meetup

Hope to see everyone who can make it to Fairfax this Saturday!

I have yet to make it out to a VA meet. Maybe one day... :P

Fine.....

I only go there if Dan's there :icon17:

I refuse to go to another FFX meet until Steve comes to an MD meet.

Steve only comes to GB meets so... :rofl2:

Exactly.

Actually Steve used to come to MD meets, but stopped for some reason. The first meet I came to was in MD and I met Steve there (along with Jay, Jon, and Pat). That was also the last time I saw Steve at a (non-GB) MD meet, which was back in February :icon17:

Thanks jon for the meetup plug. Def use it guys... it costs me 300 bucks a year :icon17:

Wah, my pussy hurts!

Exclamation. It's a retort to someone who is whining about something rather trivial. It is said among dudes to indicate that their compadre is acting like a little girl...
Dude 1: I'm not sure I should ask her out, she might say no...
Dude 2: Wah, my pussy hurts!

Dude 1: Dude, you stole my beer!
dude 2: Wah, my pussy hurts!

Dude 1: Steve never comes to MD meets. I'm not going to another FFX meet.
Dude 2: Wah, my pussy hurts!:tiphat:

yeah, me too. I'm boycotting meets until dan is back:icon17: