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jcosta79 05-06-2014 12:37 PM

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Nado#0674 05-06-2014 09:05 PM

Keep it up bro, sic

Vichtz 05-06-2014 10:07 PM

not my cup of tea, but im interested to see where this goes. I always enjoy a build different from the norm

dP3NGU1N 05-06-2014 10:22 PM

It's really not my style but you're badass for doing something like this. Good luck, can't wait to see the results.

VincentLe 05-08-2014 09:40 AM

i dont get when people point out how much stretch it is when it's obviously a show car build.. stretch tires are so he can get his fitment on point, as close to the fender as he can. Im pretty sure he knows it's not the safest thing.

JARblue 05-08-2014 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by VincentLe (Post 2810707)
i dont get when people point out how much stretch it is when it's obviously a show car build

If the car is a true show car and not driven on the street, sure...

But how do you know they aren't also running them on the street? Plenty of his photos show him on what appear to be public roads. I see plenty of stretched tires on public roads. Unless it is documented that he's using a trailer to get his car to the shows, then I don't have any problem pointing it out. It's unsafe, it doesn't look good, and it damages wheel edges.

Chuck33079 05-08-2014 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by JARblue (Post 2810711)
But how do you know they aren't also running them on the street? Plenty of his photos show him on what appear to be public roads. I see plenty of stretched tires on public roads. Unless it is documented that he's using a trailer to get his car to the shows, then I don't have any problem pointing it out. It's unsafe, it doesn't look good, and it damages wheel edges.

:iagree:

Stretched tires are bad. Not from an aesthetics standpoint, from a function and safety standpoint. The purpose of the tire is compromised by stretching it. At best, the car will handle worse. Worst case scenario, you'll hit a bump and that stretched tire will de-bead. At freeway speeds that could very easily cause fatalities. Want to make your car handle worse? Ok, it's not my car. Want to make the vehicle unsafe and potentially cause an accident? That's where the line is drawn. At least other rice fads like LED washer nozzles and undercar neon don't make the car unsafe.

VincentLe 05-08-2014 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 2810713)
:iagree:

Stretched tires are bad. Not from an aesthetics standpoint, from a function and safety standpoint. The purpose of the tire is compromised by stretching it. At best, the car will handle worse. Worst case scenario, you'll hit a bump and that stretched tire will de-bead. At freeway speeds that could very easily cause fatalities. Want to make your car handle worse? Ok, it's not my car. Want to make the vehicle unsafe and potentially cause an accident? That's where the line is drawn. At least other rice fads like LED washer nozzles and undercar neon don't make the car unsafe.

i understand your point of view, and hopefully that never happens. Best of luck to OP, cant wait to see the build finished. (there's agruments to both sides and not trying to start form vs function or something like that by any means)

Sh0velMan 05-08-2014 10:16 AM

I've decided to make my Z like this one. Gonna go get some 215 section tires for my fronts, maybe some 225's for the rear, then spend a couple grand getting some custom bodywork to be sure that even with the aggressive stretch, the tires still don't fit under the fenders.

Who needs the car to be safe and drivable anyway?

Now taking suggestions for some dope wide lipped wheels. The more "pieces" they are and the more shiny, the better.

Oh, but be sure they're as heavy as possible and are a huge negative offset so that I'm forced to use a 30mm+ spacer.

Thanks in advance!

jcosta79 05-08-2014 10:19 AM

So let me get this straight... The OP is widening his car so that he can fit much narrower tires on it than it came with stock?

Huh?

sixpax 05-08-2014 10:26 AM

rough crowd ...

Chuck33079 05-08-2014 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Sh0velMan (Post 2810743)
I've decided to make my Z like this one. Gonna go get some 215 section tires for my fronts, maybe some 225's for the rear, then spend a couple grand getting some custom bodywork to be sure that even with the aggressive stretch, the tires still don't fit under the fenders.

Who needs the car to be safe and drivable anyway?

Now taking suggestions for some dope wide lipped wheels. The more "pieces" they are and the more shiny, the better.

Oh, but be sure they're as heavy as possible and are a huge negative offset so that I'm forced to use a 30mm+ spacer.

Thanks in advance!

:tup:

Don't forget to lower it to the point where you high-center the car on a speed hump and knock control arm shaped dents in your fenders. In his defense, at least the OP can raise the car up to be driveable. It's far worse without airbags. And that is a sentence I never thought I'd type.

jcosta79 05-08-2014 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by sixpax (Post 2810759)
rough crowd ...

But why would you make a wide body to put skinny tires on? Why not just put wider tires on it? The rims look plenty wide and it would look better that way, not to mention handle better. And take out all that negative camber, because the car is riding on like an inch of tread per tire which must be horrible for overall grip. Not even F1 cars have that much negative camber.

The car has the potential to look really good and handle really well but it needs wider tires and less negative camber. Not trying to hate, just giving suggestions to make it look better and handle better.

Chuck33079 05-08-2014 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by jcosta79 (Post 2810767)
But why would you make a wide body to put skinny tires on? Why not just put wider tires on it? The rims look plenty wide and it would look better that way, not to mention handle better. And take out all that negative camber, because the car is riding on like an inch of tread per tire which must be horrible for overall grip. Not even F1 cars have that much negative camber.

The car has the potential to look really good and handle really well but it needs wider tires and less negative camber. Not trying to hate, just giving suggestions to make it look better and handle better.

:iagree:

Widebody with meaty tires that put the power to the ground better:drool:
Widebody with stretched tires :ugh2:

sixpax 05-08-2014 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by jcosta79 (Post 2810767)
But why would you make a wide body to put skinny tires on? Why not just put wider tires on it? The rims look plenty wide and it would look better that way, not to mention handle better. And take out all that negative camber, because the car is riding on like an inch of tread per tire which must be horrible for overall grip. Not even F1 cars have that much negative camber.

The car has the potential to look really good and handle really well but it needs wider tires and less negative camber. Not trying to hate, just giving suggestions to make it look better and handle better.

I agree 110% ... just stated it was a rough crowd in here ... that's all :tup:

SouthArk370Z 05-08-2014 10:52 AM

I'd never stretch tires or mess with the alignment that much. I think it looks "interesting" on a show car or cruising the boulevard but, as Chuck said above, it's not safe at normal speeds.

But I can remember raising the rear of cars and sticking way-too-big-for-the-rest-of-the-drivetrain tires in there, back in The Good Old Days. Not as unsafe as stretching, but it still had a negative effect on handling. Glass packs were pretty popular, too. :)

I'm still impressed with the work OP has done. Looks like he's doing it right (other than the tire/alignment thing) even if it isn't easy on my eyes. ;)

FPenvy 05-08-2014 10:57 AM

not gonna lie the more i look and think about the point of this build and the stanced out bit of it.....i kinda wanna kill it with fire.

just saying.

Chuck33079 05-08-2014 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 2810794)
not gonna lie the more i look and think about the point of this build and the stanced out bit of it.....i kinda wanna kill it with fire.

just saying.

I'm kinda on the opposite side of it. The widebody conversion looks very well done. Ditch the airbags for a suspension appropriate for a sports car, raise it to an appropriate ride height, get tires and wheels that fit, run as much rubber as humanly possible and get a good alignment. Now you've got a fast car.

ka24king 05-08-2014 11:02 AM

Sick work amazing build just sucks that you started this project twards the death or "end" of the whole "hella low frush" whatever fad that's been going hard for about 5-6 years now. But on the other hand you have a nice showcar :)

Sh0velMan 05-08-2014 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by ka24king (Post 2810804)
Sick work amazing build just sucks that you started this project twards the death or "end" of the whole "hella low frush" whatever fad that's been going hard for about 5-6 years now. But on the other hand you have a nice showcar :)


Don't tease me. At fad is far from its "end".

370Zsteve 05-08-2014 11:05 AM

That hellaflushed (lol) look ain't going nowhere, at least not out here on the East Coast, **** is huge.

FPenvy 05-08-2014 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 2810799)
I'm kinda on the opposite side of it. The widebody conversion looks very well done. Ditch the airbags for a suspension appropriate for a sports car, raise it to an appropriate ride height, get tires and wheels that fit, run as much rubber as humanly possible and get a good alignment. Now you've got a fast car.

the widebody is a plus for sure. and yes real suspension and correct wheels and tires even better.

but this herrfrush stupidity has to go. now.

thats how you kill a car's reputation kids. hence why everyone makes fun of honda queers. ask yourselves do you wanna be one of them? no thats why you have a 370.

Sh0velMan 05-08-2014 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 2810809)
the widebody is a plus for sure. and yes real suspension and correct wheels and tires even better.



but this herrfrush stupidy has to go. now.



thats how you kill a car's reputation kids. hence why everyone makes fun of honda queers. ask yourselves do you wanna be one of them? no thats why you have a 370.


Like it or not, this platform is seen as a natural place to progress to from Hondas. That's the price you pay when you sell a good looking sports car for cheap used prices.

ka24king 05-08-2014 11:09 AM

Do you hear how many people are not liking it anymore. Well will see but body kits then murdering out your car all black everything. Those two are gone for the most part now so I have faith :) haha plus the majority of this thread is not positive feedback. I honestly feel like in 2-3 years when cars look to good to change in that way it will slow down. Just look at the "new" supra that will look so stupid flushed. just like the old one looks better if you just leave it alone. At least this is what I hope and predict

ka24king 05-08-2014 11:11 AM

Yup the z's are just going to become way more affordable in the coming years after the change to the new z :(

FPenvy 05-08-2014 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Sh0velMan (Post 2810815)
Like it or not, this platform is seen as a natural place to progress to from Hondas. That's the price you pay when you sell a good looking sports car for cheap used prices.

the influx of flush-tards and ricers makes me not want to own a 370 and be associated with the car. then you get people looking at you like you're one of those dbags as well. hence why i went 370 over a 350. now looks like time to go to the GT-R.

Chuck33079 05-08-2014 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 2810823)
the influx of flush-tards and ricers makes me not want to own a 370 and be associated with the car. then you get people looking at you like you're one of those dbags as well. hence why i went 370 over a 350. now looks like time to go to the GT-R.

And in time, those will also become cheap enough to be purchased by those of questionable taste. It's the circle of life.

SouthArk370Z 05-08-2014 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 2810809)
... thats how you kill a car's reputation kids. hence why everyone makes fun of honda queers. ask yourselves do you wanna be one of them? no thats why you have a 370.

No matter what other ppl do to their Zs, mine will still be bone-stock and looking bad-a**. What they do to their car doesn't affect mine one iota.

The Z's reputation is not based on what ppl can/will do to it but on how well it performs and looks from the factory - you don't see many hella-flush reviews in Car & Driver.

The only time I'd drive a low-rider is in a parade. I'd still love to have a stock one.

I guess what I'm getting at is: Who cares what someone else does to their car? How does that affect your reputation or that of the car you drive? Do your thing and FTW (old school meaning).

Camcam1616 05-08-2014 03:10 PM

Your opinion about stretched tires and low cars is irrelevant. The car is a one off build that no one has done. Keep your negative op to your self. This is not a track car. So handling "maximum grip" is not a concern. **** purists. Do something that sets your z apart from everyone else's. This will be daily driven. And a show car. And has been daily'd from day. One. If you have something negative to say. Keep it to your self.



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LostSol 05-08-2014 03:20 PM

Just because its different doesn't make it a good idea.

coolvans1988 05-08-2014 03:30 PM

I would of gotten a turbo with all that money spent for this set up.

Xplicit97 05-08-2014 03:33 PM

Yall crack me up, and remind me why I left the 240 scene (aside from my age) Everyone seems to be on some moral quest or something.. Those of you who feel this is not their thing great.. But in all honesty the title should have given that away.. How many "bagged wide bodies" aren't about stance? Pretty much screams stance. Would you go into a country bar that says exactly what it is on the sign, then bitch about the fact they don't play something else? Didnt think so Btw I am not a stretched tire guy, but I am considering bags, for the versatility. I do enjoy the look of stance vehicle parked, and can appreciate a quality build though.

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VincentLe 05-08-2014 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Camcam1616 (Post 2811083)
Your opinion about stretched tires and low cars is irrelevant. The car is a one off build that no one has done. Keep your negative op to your self. This is not a track car. So handling "maximum grip" is not a concern. **** purists. Do something that sets your z apart from everyone else's. This will be daily driven. And a show car. And has been daily'd from day. One. If you have something negative to say. Keep it to your self.



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:tup:

Sh0velMan 05-08-2014 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Camcam1616 (Post 2811083)
Your opinion about stretched tires and low cars is irrelevant. The car is a one off build that no one has done. Keep your negative op to your self. This is not a track car. So handling "maximum grip" is not a concern. **** purists. Do something that sets your z apart from everyone else's. This will be daily driven. And a show car. And has been daily'd from day. One. If you have something negative to say. Keep it to your self.



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Nah, I'm good.

The dangerous figment of wheel and tire you've chosen makes you a risk to yourself and others.

Don't post stuff on public pages on the net and get butt hurt when people say things you don't want to hear.

jcosta79 05-08-2014 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Camcam1616 (Post 2811083)
If you have something negative to say. Keep it to your self.

This saying always bothered me. Basically what is implied is that the person saying it does not want to hear any opinions that differ from their own. I mean what if you posted that you wanted to kill yourself? Should we not try to stop you for fear of saying something negative? People have negative opinions about Hitler, should those not be expressed ever?

What people are trying to help you see is that you are undertaking a big project whose ultimate goal is not very popular. In the big scheme of things it's not a big deal, but to summarily dismiss criticism from others is not always a wise thing. We can ALWAYS learn from others, even on an internet forum.

Good luck with your project. I honestly hope it turns out well and that you are pleased with it. After all, isn't that what the car scene is all about?



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Zbrah 05-08-2014 04:36 PM

Wow, 3 pages of nonsense and no updates. I honestly don't see what OP did to you that warrants such negativity here. Last time i checked this was a serious build thread, now it's really turning into several pages of garbage.

Even the gencoupe forum was never this bad, they don't troll in someone's build thread to shut it down, that should tell you something. Sad day guys, really.

Camcam1616 05-08-2014 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Zbrah (Post 2811198)
Wow, 3 pages of nonsense and no updates. I honestly don't see what OP did to you that warrants such negativity here. Last time i checked this was a serious build thread, now it's really turning into several pages of garbage.



Even the gencoupe forum was never this bad, they don't troll in someone's build thread to shut it down, that should tell you something. Sad day guys, really.


The reason for no updates is I can only check the car out once a week due to my work schedule. Mainly Mondays are the days I will update


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blackcherry20 05-08-2014 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Camcam1616 (Post 2811083)
Your opinion about stretched tires and low cars is irrelevant. The car is a one off build that no one has done. Keep your negative op to your self. This is not a track car. So handling "maximum grip" is not a concern. **** purists. Do something that sets your z apart from everyone else's. This will be daily driven. And a show car. And has been daily'd from day. One. If you have something negative to say. Keep it to your self.



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:tup: unfortunately if you post on a public forum you certainly must expect feedback of all types. Negative. Positive. Neutral.
It is the nature of the beast. Just roll with it. :tup:

GaleForce 05-08-2014 11:02 PM

While it may not be everyone's cup of tea, there is no denying the originality and quality craftsmanship going into making this all metal wide body Z. Good job.


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