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SPOHN 01-25-2013 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Megan370z (Post 2129895)
a BIG note on this .

7AT owner should NOT do this ,
The 7AT/ECU require the EVAP setup to function properly, it might sound weird but it does and you will break the tranny over time

even if you have Uprev, 7AT owner must keep the sensors/EVAP in place.
I had a big talk on this subject about 2-3 years ago with Jared @ Uprev, when I did this Mod.

Glad you brought that up. I vaguely remember reading that.

SPOHN 01-25-2013 01:48 PM

K&N Filter goes to gas tank line
http://i1109.photobucket.com/albums/...ts/EVAP001.jpg

Capped off line goes to the front of the car to manifold.
http://i1109.photobucket.com/albums/...ts/EVAP002.jpg

wstar 01-25-2013 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Megan370z (Post 2129895)
a BIG note on this .

7AT owner should NOT do this ,
The 7AT/ECU require the EVAP setup to function properly, it might sound weird but it does and you will break the tranny over time

even if you have Uprev, 7AT owner must keep the sensors/EVAP in place.
I had a big talk on this subject about 2-3 years ago with Jared @ Uprev, when I did this Mod.

Any details on that? I'm trying to imagine what the connection would be between the two, and drawing a blank. 7AT uses a vacuum line that's connected to the EVAP system running down the body or something? Can't be that, that would be easy to fix.

Kingbaby 01-25-2013 02:52 PM

Awesome... Have you removed the breather lines that connect the intake and that go to the valve cover?

Because the two you capped and added a filter to I believe can be completely removed!

SPOHN 01-25-2013 03:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kingbaby (Post 2130519)
Awesome... Have you removed the breather lines that connect the intake and that go to the valve cover?

Because the two you capped and added a filter to I believe can be completely removed!

None of these lines go to the valve cover or the intake. Only the line I capped off goes to the EVAP sensor and then that is connected to the manifold (which could be the intake system). I've removed all of that too. The sensor, vaccum lines (rubber and hard lines), and capped the manifold ports. If you look behind the manifold there is a series of two hard lines. One is vaccum and the other was for the throttle bodies coolant passage in which I deleted that also.

I just haven't got to removing the line capped off cause it routes under the car in all direction and I didn't want to fool with it yet. So far as the line that is filtered I was under the assumption it has to be there for the tank to work proper and vent it's self. Such as for the flapper when filling and for when it's hot it releases pressure in the tank. I see what your saying though about not needing the filter and line would serve the same purpose but by adding a filter (and leaving the line intact) in the location as I did it directs the fumes to the rear of the car where the air will pull them out.

SPOHN 01-25-2013 03:59 PM

Also today I blocked off all the firewall holes.

Megan370z 01-25-2013 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wstar (Post 2130517)
Any details on that? I'm trying to imagine what the connection would be between the two, and drawing a blank. 7AT uses a vacuum line that's connected to the EVAP system running down the body or something? Can't be that, that would be easy to fix.

the 7AT needs a functional EVAP sensor for the proper calculation of the Calculated Load
if you deleted the EVAP setup, the 7AT will always be at 100% calculated load and this will cause an excess unnecessary wear over time.

dont get me wrong , the tranny will work the way its suppose to but with a bit less reliability


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I just went into my emails with Uprev and this was on one of the last email that we exchanged on that subject.

*COPY/PASTE*
Be careful with the EVAP removal. There is a pressure sensor as part of the EVAP system that is used in calculating barometric pressure and this affects a few different things outside of the EVAP system, like how the car calculates load. I recall seeing issues with a particular Titan which had it's EVAP (including this sensor) removed. I don't remember exactly what fix was done for that particular vehicle(Jared would probably know better), but if your sensor is currently removed, it would probably be better to wire it up just reading atmospheric pressure.

wstar 01-25-2013 04:35 PM

I bet I can figure out which sensor that is and just leave one sensor dangling and reading baro pressure. Would be easy to test by monitoring calculated load, which I believe Cipher shows.

Megan370z 01-25-2013 04:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wstar (Post 2130787)
I bet I can figure out which sensor that is and just leave one sensor dangling and reading baro pressure. Would be easy to test by monitoring calculated load, which I believe Cipher shows.

it should work ;)
just something add a bit more on this...

when I tested the setup, it randowly took a certain amount of time to the tranny ecm to get into safefail.
let it run for a couple mins or even for a few miles then shutdown the car then restart
the ecm should normaly be in safefail.

if its still show normal reading under Load Calculation (25-35% at idle) then you got the right sensor.

Kingbaby 01-25-2013 05:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SPOHN (Post 2130607)
None of these lines go to the valve cover or the intake. Only the line I capped off goes to the EVAP sensor and then that is connected to the manifold (which could be the intake system). I've removed all of that too. The sensor, vaccum lines (rubber and hard lines), and capped the manifold ports. If you look behind the manifold there is a series of two hard lines. One is vaccum and the other was for the throttle bodies coolant passage in which I deleted that also.

I just haven't got to removing the line capped off cause it routes under the car in all direction and I didn't want to fool with it yet. So far as the line that is filtered I was under the assumption it has to be there for the tank to work proper and vent it's self. Such as for the flapper when filling and for when it's hot it releases pressure in the tank. I see what your saying though about not needing the filter and line would serve the same purpose but by adding a filter (and leaving the line intact) in the location as I did it directs the fumes to the rear of the car where the air will pull them out.

roger roger...thanks again for the nice DIY...

Sh0velMan 02-05-2013 03:07 PM

Spohn, did you preserve the steering position sensor?

I ended up shredding the entire assembly trying to follow the horn signal path. It also looked like I couldn't mount the hub without getting rid of that assembly. How did you handle it?

SPOHN 02-05-2013 03:32 PM

No I didn't. I don't really need all that. It was simpler not to.

SPOHN 02-08-2013 04:28 PM

Can't get my pics to upload but installed a AAM oil pan spacer, AEM oil temp gauge, front and rear tow straps, and removed another 15lbs off the car. 8lbs was off the front of the car.

Mr&Mrs 02-08-2013 04:45 PM

Do you have a current weight?

SPOHN 02-08-2013 04:49 PM

Not yet guys. I'm curious myself. Next couple weeks for sure.

Baer383 02-10-2013 07:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr&Mrs (Post 2155700)
Do you have a current weight?

With Chris in it,it is kind of like having the hamburglar in it.

SPOHN 02-11-2013 05:50 AM

^ suck my pickles. Lol

Carbon_z 02-12-2013 09:41 AM

rofl

SPOHN 02-13-2013 06:19 PM

Here's the only pics I have of my AAM oil pan spacer. Sorry not that great, from my Iphone and I was in a rush.

http://i1109.photobucket.com/albums/...pse6101646.jpg

http://i1109.photobucket.com/albums/...pseaf5f891.jpg

SPOHN 02-13-2013 06:40 PM

New Ralco RZ Performance Short Shifter
 
Installed all new Ralco RZ Performance Short Shifter for our cars. This was given to me by Ralco to perform a full review. So look forward to it Friday night after my track day. Already seems like a solid piece of quality.



http://i1109.photobucket.com/albums/...ps6d7b9217.jpg

http://i1109.photobucket.com/albums/...ps9e6d1465.jpg

Sh0velMan 02-13-2013 07:27 PM

The pricing of their other shifters is amazing.

Can't wait to hear more about this.

Baer383 02-13-2013 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Sh0velMan (Post 2163949)
The pricing of their other shifters is amazing.

Can't wait to hear more about this.

I know I just called him he is to lazy to put up the rest of the pics.:icon23:

SPOHN 02-13-2013 07:36 PM

Well I know how you like knobs. Didn't want you to get to excited.

Baer383 02-13-2013 07:45 PM

http://www.the370z.com/members/baer3...ooling-cat.jpg

SPOHN 02-16-2013 10:19 PM

Track Report
 
http://www.the370z.com/track-autocro...ml#post2169317

Sh0velMan 02-16-2013 10:26 PM

NICE. I'm definitely removing my yaw sensor.

SPOHN 02-16-2013 10:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sh0velMan (Post 2169327)
NICE. I'm definitely removing my yaw sensor.

:tup: Do so threw your own expense. I don't think the guys with ice mode will though.

Sh0velMan 02-19-2013 10:32 AM

How'd you handle blocking off the heater core hoses?

Just loop from the outlet to the return inlet? Did you have to get another hose or were you able to re-use one of the stock ones?

Thx! :)

SPOHN 02-19-2013 11:07 AM

Yes just bypass it. I had to get more hose and two inline couplings. 3/4" hose and fittings.

wstar 02-19-2013 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SPOHN (Post 2169335)
:tup: Do so threw your own expense. I don't think the guys with ice mode will though.

What's the thinking on this affecting ice-mode? I really don't think it will. In any case, I pulled mine recently and no ill effects, so far.

SPOHN 02-19-2013 01:34 PM

None. I did mostly for timing purpose.

Sh0velMan 02-19-2013 02:05 PM

That, and now you can trail brake... With that yaw sensor in place, if you get even a few degrees off straight on, the damned car steps in and slaps you on the wrist.

sig11 02-19-2013 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sh0velMan (Post 2173923)
That, and now you can trail brake... With that yaw sensor in place, if you get even a few degrees off straight on, the damned car steps in and slaps you on the wrist.

Weird... never noticed that when trailbraking....

SPOHN 02-23-2013 02:05 PM

Road Atlanta Track Pics
 
http://i1109.photobucket.com/albums/...ps3c4f829f.jpg

http://i1109.photobucket.com/albums/...ps8ac59c60.jpg

daisuke149 02-23-2013 02:06 PM

again man.. the lines of that stillen and your side skirts and amuse rear.. go so well together!!

SPOHN 02-23-2013 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by daisuke149 (Post 2180707)
again man.. the lines of that stillen and your side skirts and amuse rear.. go so well together!!

Yea they do. I made a great decision on that.

daisuke149 02-23-2013 02:08 PM

I was gonna do what you did cept with fujimara front and ings rear wing! so i def approve.

Baer383 02-23-2013 02:12 PM

:icon23:

SPOHN 02-23-2013 02:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Baer383 (Post 2180719)
:icon23:

:gtfo2:

simota1 02-23-2013 03:16 PM

happy birthday bro!!!!!!!!! :D


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