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Sh0velMan 01-02-2013 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by wstar (Post 2090589)
XP10F + XP8R is the way to go for the Carbotechs, at least on the stock Sport setup. 8/8 gives too much ice mode, whereas 10/8 feels pretty good. They've very grabby so it'll take a little getting used to. FWIW I've switched from Carbotech to CL RC6/RC5+. The Carbotechs worked fine on the track on my good weekends, I just switched as part of debugging my long-term rotor destruction problems. First time I'll finally get to track-test the CL setup will now be Jan 26/27, but so far in non-track testing they've been pretty awesome.

Yeah, I've done two track days and several autocrosses plus 5k or so street miles, and my rotors look practically new. This is on RC6 F/R. The pads also look fairly fresh... Kind of spooky.

FL 4Motion 01-03-2013 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Sh0velMan (Post 2089658)
Something sintered. Carbotech, CL, Ferodo, etc.

the CL RC6's are quite hoss, but it's probably easier and cheaper to get the XP8's/10s.

I'd read that most folks like 10 on front and 8 on rear for our car.

If you can ignore the noise and dust, you could just run them full time. The RC6's wear quite slowly in my experience and you learn to block out the noise pretty quickly in return for the amazing braking performance.

/\ yup, will be switching out to 10/8 combo w/in the next year.

we run 8/8 combo all the time, no issues, can't hear any brake squealing since the exhaust is so loud, so therefore, if i can't hear it, then it must not be happening. ;)

martin82 01-03-2013 04:03 PM

I run project mu CR(club racer) both front and rear with no ice mode issues....

SPOHN 01-03-2013 04:11 PM

I'm glad I've never had a single issue of/ with ''Ice mode''.

wstar 01-03-2013 04:21 PM

That "ice mode" is highly dependent on a lot of factors I think, which is why it's hit and miss (or mostly miss, for some). That the track I hit the most has some ripply/bumpy/not-ideal pavement in some hard braking zones is probably a huge factor. Being a little light in the rear on weight distribution doesn't help either (and/or having a very stiff rear sway). Lack of cooling to the fronts and/or under-specced front pads relative to rear would contribute as well. Then of course I'm sure personal habits on how you use the pedal and how you set up the car's ... what's the right term? dynamic weight distribution? ... during certain braking sections will affect it as well.

Carbon_z 01-03-2013 04:25 PM

damn bro I gotta see the car... Everytime I see it, its different lol

Sh0velMan 01-04-2013 07:20 AM

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Originally Posted by wstar (Post 2092431)
That "ice mode" is highly dependent on a lot of factors I think, which is why it's hit and miss (or mostly miss, for some). That the track I hit the most has some ripply/bumpy/not-ideal pavement in some hard braking zones is probably a huge factor. Being a little light in the rear on weight distribution doesn't help either (and/or having a very stiff rear sway). Lack of cooling to the fronts and/or under-specced front pads relative to rear would contribute as well. Then of course I'm sure personal habits on how you use the pedal and how you set up the car's ... what's the right term? dynamic weight distribution? ... during certain braking sections will affect it as well.

Sounds like Turn 1 @ TWS... lol my inner monologue was regularly "**** **** **** **** **** **** shiiiiiit! Wheew okay turn in..." So bumpy it's hard to slow down sometimes, even without brake fade or ice mode.

SPOHN 01-04-2013 07:38 AM

Yea, all tracks I've been to are smooth so I'll hopefully never experience that. Does CL makes pads for after market BBK's?

Sh0velMan 01-04-2013 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by SPOHN (Post 2093250)
Yea, all tracks I've been to are smooth so I'll hopefully never experience that. Does CL makes pads for after market BBK's?

Definitely.

CL Brakes - Catalogue Auto

Sh0velMan 01-04-2013 07:59 AM

Bah their catalog is out of date.

Use this site: Essex - Essex Parts - Brake Pads

You can choose aftermarket calipers, then AP, and pick your model.

Edit: Also, you want 'Full Race' category and RC8 are rally pads, just FYI.

SPOHN 01-04-2013 09:14 AM

Thanks for the info. Repped

wstar 01-04-2013 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Sh0velMan (Post 2093233)
Sounds like Turn 1 @ TWS... lol my inner monologue was regularly "**** **** **** **** **** **** shiiiiiit! Wheew okay turn in..." So bumpy it's hard to slow down sometimes, even without brake fade or ice mode.

Yeah TWS is next on my list to conquer, but I've only done a few laps there. MSR-Houston is the ripply one I'm referring to (which has actually been great for being my primary learning track. Having the pavement be a bit unpredictable really teaches you to be smoother and feel things out better).

Sh0velMan 01-04-2013 08:36 PM

Spohn, when looking at your stock radiator, do you think it's possible to cut the condenser off? It looks like its held on only by some little brackets....

What say you?

SPOHN 01-04-2013 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Sh0velMan (Post 2094808)
Spohn, when looking at your stock radiator, do you think it's possible to cut the condenser off? It looks like its held on only by some little brackets....

What say you?

I look at it briefly but I noticed the same thing. It's welded on but it looks as it can be cut off. There's definitely no way there connected fluid wise.

SPOHN 01-05-2013 05:25 PM

Final wire harness delete. I've clipped and pin backed all the deleted harness for a cleaner look

http://i1109.photobucket.com/albums/...eanWire001.jpg

http://i1109.photobucket.com/albums/...eanWire003.jpg

http://i1109.photobucket.com/albums/...eanWire002.jpg


Also reinstalled my gauges on the mid brace bar. Still have to buy a aftermarket oil temp and volt gauge.
http://i1109.photobucket.com/albums/...eanWire007.jpg


http://i1109.photobucket.com/albums/...eanWire010.jpg


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