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gorillanismo · 10-08-2009, 10:31 PM

i think that it sounds awesome

Mike · 10-09-2009, 08:24 AM

Fly by at the racetrack
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7JX05R4IRM

Mike · 10-13-2009, 07:56 PM

Akebonos don't work on the track, at least not on a short track like Little Talladega. I mentioned before I boiled the fluid and toasted the stock rear pads in one session at the East Coast Z Nationals when running HP+ up front. I then replaced the rears with HP+, so I was running both on the front and back with valvoline synthetic. I did 1 day at Road Atlanta then one more day at Little Talladega at a time attack, where they boiled again, and today when I pulled them this is what I found on every caliper. Fortunately, I have 4 good dust boots out of the 12, and the seals are all still fine. They should get me through this weekend for the rears, although I will have to have a set of rear brake pads overnited tomorrow for a back up, and then a rebuild kit for the rears before Road Atlanta the following weekend.

Anyways, not pictured are the HP+ pads with all of the factory paint burned off of them. This is a picture of one front caliper upon removal today:

and this is my solution, the bolt on front Brembo GT Caliper set. Unfortunately, they didn't quite clear my 18" wheels and I had to slightly grind the outer ends of them for clearance, so they are being repowdercoated a satin black tomorrow.

Hopefully these and some Motul fluid will do the trick. We will know next week.

The funny thing is, I've never been real hard on brakes and never had a problem with my 350Z brembos, Stock Corvette brakes or C6 Z06 corvette brakes on the same track. I guess the akebono's are more show than go.

Mike · 10-13-2009, 07:57 PM

I'll try to post up some photos of the stereo install I did last week tomorrow also.

travisjb · 10-13-2009, 08:35 PM

Good move, Mike. I'm running a new set of AP Racing brakes as well. You're right, stock doesn't hold up. They need more air too !!!

Mike · 10-13-2009, 08:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by travisjb

Good move, Mike. I'm running a new set of AP Racing brakes as well. You're right, stock doesn't hold up. They need more air too !!!

yea, I'm wondering if I need to upgrade the rears also. I get wholesale with a company that sells brembo, so my cost made it a no brainer versus every other front upgrade out there.

Mike · 10-16-2009, 10:15 PM

Took a bit of grinding on the edges to get them to fit my 18" 350z wheels, but they do. I've got about 3mm clearance, so little rocks and gravel get caught in between and scratch up my rims and sound terrible when slow, but these brakes are awesome! Braking deep all day with no fade at all.

Here is the refinished caliper, with my 'orange' touch to them, so they match my street wheels, just satin instead of glossy.

gorillanismo · 10-17-2009, 12:16 PM

but the problem on the 370Z stock brakes are the pads right???
or the calipers aren't good too???

travisjb · 10-17-2009, 12:34 PM

for the street, don't need anything different... for track, pads and lack of ventilation are the primary problems, and I think most folks will be fine with the stock SPORT brakes if they fix both of those things... but some people like BBKs

and you prob do 'need' BBKs if you track the car with long sessions and / or are competitive

Mike · 10-17-2009, 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by travisjb

for the street, don't need anything different... for track, pads and lack of ventilation are the primary problems, and I think most folks will be fine with the stock SPORT brakes if they fix both of those things... but some people like BBKs

and you prob do 'need' BBKs if you track the car with long sessions and / or are competitive

What he said! Maybe with some cooling the stock ones would have held up, but I go to some very brake intense courses and need the extra confidence of great brakes.

spearfish25 · 02-23-2010, 11:19 AM

Ugh, now even the aeroquips are suspect. Has anyone measured oil pressures? Maybe the car is operating at a much higher pressure than anyone expects.

kannibul · 02-23-2010, 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spearfish25

Ugh, now even the aeroquips are suspect. Has anyone measured oil pressures? Maybe the car is operating at a much higher pressure than anyone expects.

Kind of makes sense, oil pressure would expand the hose a bit, making it fit more loosely, which in combination with high pressure, would cause it to work itself loose.

I'm surprised no one use a clamp in addition for extra safety...

Mike · 02-23-2010, 12:00 PM

10, I think.

spearfish25 · 02-23-2010, 01:32 PM

My other theory is that inadequate hose length and engine vibration/shifting under persistent heavy throttle on/off is causing the hoses to slowly work themselves loose. This is the second case of a hose coming loose in a setup with short hose lengths.

While I think measuring oil pressure at the level of these hoses would be very helpful, I think everyone needs to ensure adequate slack in these hoses (just an extra couple inches). Finally, a true stainless steel hose clamp that can be screwed down may be a good idea rather than zip ties.

Mike · 02-23-2010, 02:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spearfish25

My other theory is that inadequate hose length and engine vibration/shifting under persistent heavy throttle on/off is causing the hoses to slowly work themselves loose. This is the second case of a hose coming loose in a setup with short hose lengths.

While I think measuring oil pressure at the level of these hoses would be very helpful, I think everyone needs to ensure adequate slack in these hoses (just an extra couple inches). Finally, a true stainless steel hose clamp that can be screwed down may be a good idea rather than zip ties.

I have plenty of slack in my setup.

10-08-2009, 10:31 PM	#1 (permalink)
gorillanismo Base Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Puerto Rico Posts: 112 Drives: 03Chevrolet Cavalier Rep Power: 17	i think that it sounds awesome __________________ SHIFT: The Future NISSAN

10-09-2009, 08:24 AM	#2 (permalink)
Mike The370Z.com Sponsor Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Loganville, GA Posts: 5,944 Drives: 370z Rep Power: 2187	Fly by at the racetrack http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7JX05R4IRM __________________ NISSAN: 75 280Z / 86 300ZX GLL /87 Sentra SE / 03 350Z / 23 Z Porsche: 93 968 / 23 Macan GTS / 93 968

10-13-2009, 07:56 PM	#3 (permalink)
Mike The370Z.com Sponsor Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Loganville, GA Posts: 5,944 Drives: 370z Rep Power: 2187	Akebonos don't work on the track, at least not on a short track like Little Talladega. I mentioned before I boiled the fluid and toasted the stock rear pads in one session at the East Coast Z Nationals when running HP+ up front. I then replaced the rears with HP+, so I was running both on the front and back with valvoline synthetic. I did 1 day at Road Atlanta then one more day at Little Talladega at a time attack, where they boiled again, and today when I pulled them this is what I found on every caliper. Fortunately, I have 4 good dust boots out of the 12, and the seals are all still fine. They should get me through this weekend for the rears, although I will have to have a set of rear brake pads overnited tomorrow for a back up, and then a rebuild kit for the rears before Road Atlanta the following weekend. Anyways, not pictured are the HP+ pads with all of the factory paint burned off of them. This is a picture of one front caliper upon removal today: and this is my solution, the bolt on front Brembo GT Caliper set. Unfortunately, they didn't quite clear my 18" wheels and I had to slightly grind the outer ends of them for clearance, so they are being repowdercoated a satin black tomorrow. Hopefully these and some Motul fluid will do the trick. We will know next week. The funny thing is, I've never been real hard on brakes and never had a problem with my 350Z brembos, Stock Corvette brakes or C6 Z06 corvette brakes on the same track. I guess the akebono's are more show than go. xyrtek likes this. __________________ NISSAN: 75 280Z / 86 300ZX GLL /87 Sentra SE / 03 350Z / 23 Z Porsche: 93 968 / 23 Macan GTS / 93 968

10-13-2009, 07:57 PM	#4 (permalink)
Mike The370Z.com Sponsor Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Loganville, GA Posts: 5,944 Drives: 370z Rep Power: 2187	I'll try to post up some photos of the stereo install I did last week tomorrow also. __________________ NISSAN: 75 280Z / 86 300ZX GLL /87 Sentra SE / 03 350Z / 23 Z Porsche: 93 968 / 23 Macan GTS / 93 968

10-13-2009, 08:35 PM	#5 (permalink)
travisjb A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: GSO Posts: 2,803 Drives: VIR Rep Power: 190	Good move, Mike. I'm running a new set of AP Racing brakes as well. You're right, stock doesn't hold up. They need more air too !!! __________________ 2009 370Z #104 For Sale

10-16-2009, 10:15 PM	#7 (permalink)
Mike The370Z.com Sponsor Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Loganville, GA Posts: 5,944 Drives: 370z Rep Power: 2187	Took a bit of grinding on the edges to get them to fit my 18" 350z wheels, but they do. I've got about 3mm clearance, so little rocks and gravel get caught in between and scratch up my rims and sound terrible when slow, but these brakes are awesome! Braking deep all day with no fade at all. Here is the refinished caliper, with my 'orange' touch to them, so they match my street wheels, just satin instead of glossy. __________________ NISSAN: 75 280Z / 86 300ZX GLL /87 Sentra SE / 03 350Z / 23 Z Porsche: 93 968 / 23 Macan GTS / 93 968

10-17-2009, 12:16 PM	#8 (permalink)
gorillanismo Base Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Puerto Rico Posts: 112 Drives: 03Chevrolet Cavalier Rep Power: 17	but the problem on the 370Z stock brakes are the pads right??? or the calipers aren't good too??? __________________ SHIFT: The Future NISSAN

10-17-2009, 12:34 PM	#9 (permalink)
travisjb A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: GSO Posts: 2,803 Drives: VIR Rep Power: 190	for the street, don't need anything different... for track, pads and lack of ventilation are the primary problems, and I think most folks will be fine with the stock SPORT brakes if they fix both of those things... but some people like BBKs and you prob do 'need' BBKs if you track the car with long sessions and / or are competitive __________________ 2009 370Z #104 For Sale

02-23-2010, 11:19 AM	#11 (permalink)
spearfish25 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Naples, FL Posts: 4,117 Drives: to work Rep Power: 1858	Ugh, now even the aeroquips are suspect. Has anyone measured oil pressures? Maybe the car is operating at a much higher pressure than anyone expects. __________________ 2013 Cadillac V-Wagon, RIP Z

02-23-2010, 12:00 PM	#13 (permalink)
Mike The370Z.com Sponsor Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Loganville, GA Posts: 5,944 Drives: 370z Rep Power: 2187	10, I think. __________________ NISSAN: 75 280Z / 86 300ZX GLL /87 Sentra SE / 03 350Z / 23 Z Porsche: 93 968 / 23 Macan GTS / 93 968

02-23-2010, 01:32 PM	#14 (permalink)
spearfish25 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Naples, FL Posts: 4,117 Drives: to work Rep Power: 1858	My other theory is that inadequate hose length and engine vibration/shifting under persistent heavy throttle on/off is causing the hoses to slowly work themselves loose. This is the second case of a hose coming loose in a setup with short hose lengths. While I think measuring oil pressure at the level of these hoses would be very helpful, I think everyone needs to ensure adequate slack in these hoses (just an extra couple inches). Finally, a true stainless steel hose clamp that can be screwed down may be a good idea rather than zip ties. __________________ 2013 Cadillac V-Wagon, RIP Z

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