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travisjb 02-04-2010 09:52 PM

a little dramatic considering i bought a new engine from nissan for $9k

semtex 02-05-2010 07:53 AM

So basically, they're saying they're not even gonna try? F-ing losers.

MightyBobo 02-05-2010 09:00 AM

Im inclined to agree...that sounds like a lame excuse and they could have said, "Hey, we grew vaginas...sorry!"

ChrisSlicks 02-05-2010 10:00 AM

They'll change their tune when the competition succeeds, then they will be scrambling to catch up.

MightyBobo 02-05-2010 11:20 AM

Everyone Ive talked to who works with MegaSquirt says it sounds relatively easy to work with...

semtex 03-10-2010 06:27 PM

I changed my oil this past weekend at 9k miles and sent it off to Blackstone. Here are the results. I'm running Redline 5W-30, btw.

http://www.the370z.com/members/semte...0-uoa-9000.jpg

dlmartin81 03-10-2010 07:25 PM

Semtex,

Did you oil look like mine? I did my RL oil change just over 9K but it looked odd.

semtex 03-10-2010 07:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dlmartin81 (Post 439103)
Semtex,

Did you oil look like mine? I did my RL oil change just over 9K but it looked odd.

Um, no. Not at all. Sorry to say this, but yours looks kinda scary. Mine was like black, no specks of copper or whatever that is. You might want to send a sample off to Blackstone.

dlmartin81 03-10-2010 08:34 PM

Well the problem with sampling my oil is that this past weekend I did my wife's vehicle and mine, so our oils are mixed together. But yeah, it didn't look right. It was kind of thick and gritty, and copperish......you saw.

Do you think if I take it to the dealer, would they try and diagnose it? I have to go there tomorrow anyways to get a new set of lift springs for the rear hatch. So I'll mention it to them.

semtex 03-10-2010 08:42 PM

Maybe do a partial drain and see if it's still like that? Like you don't have to drain it all out. Just let a qt or so run out, which you can easily top back off afterwards.

dlmartin81 03-11-2010 08:22 AM

Semtex,

I noticed in your report that you had slightly high copper levels. I guess in my case I had over the top copper levels. So the next logical question is, what does that mean?

Anyway, I was already scheduled to go to the dealer this afternoon for something else, so I'll bring this up to them.

semtex 03-11-2010 08:37 AM

Well, the remarks on my report lead me to believe that losing some copper is just part of the normal break-in process. Now, we're assuming those flecks in your oil are copper, but we don't know for 100% sure, do we? In any case, if they are indeed chunks of copper, it may indicate that something has gone terribly wrong as far as your break-in goes. How many miles do you have on your engine? Did you follow the break-in process in the manual?

dlmartin81 03-11-2010 08:48 AM

I currently have close to 9.4K. I did follow the break procedure. I did the first change a little before 3,750. Well, if something is terribly wrong, I'm assuming the warranty will cover it because I did no harm to it. The car is still bone stock.

Oh and I'm 90% sure that those 'flecks' were copper...especially after reading your report.

Thanks for your input.

semtex 03-11-2010 08:56 AM

I think you should fish some of those flecks out of your used oil and put them in a ziploc or whatever. Take them with you to show the dealer.

dlmartin81 03-11-2010 09:00 AM

hehe...I won't be able to do that today. I work about 45 mins away from home. But I do plan to send an e-mail containing the pics I posted earlier. I'll see what they say. If they need a sample, then I guess I'll do what you suggested.

dlmartin81 03-11-2010 09:05 AM

What the heck in our engines (or engines in general) is made of copper? Isn't copper a weak metal?

semtex 03-11-2010 09:24 AM

I just spoke to my mechanic. He said it might actually be brass you're seeing, not copper. So what's brass used for in engines? He said it's typically used in bearings and valve guides. I'd take this with a grain of salt though. I asked him what copper would be used for and he couldn't think of anything. But clearly, there's copper in engines because Blackstone tests for it. And the don't test for brass. So, I don't know how solid what he told me is.

dlmartin81 03-11-2010 09:52 AM

Wow...thanks man! You went above and beyond by asking your mechanic.

You know what though, before I did the oil change, I noticed some valvetrain type of noise (buzz). I don't know how long that was going on because I usually drive with the radio on. But one day, had it off and noticed that noise. The noise was noticeable around 3-5 RMP. But it's been so long that I have driven with the radio off that I couldn't remember if that's what it always sounded like. Plus, the VQ37 has that bad rep for noise, so I didn't think much of it at the time. And after the oil change, the noise has gone away.

So maybe it's a valvetrain issue

ChrisSlicks 03-11-2010 10:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by semtex (Post 439855)
I just spoke to my mechanic. He said it might actually be brass you're seeing, not copper. So what's brass used for in engines? He said it's typically used in bearings and valve guides. I'd take this with a grain of salt though. I asked him what copper would be used for and he couldn't think of anything. But clearly, there's copper in engines because Blackstone tests for it. And the don't test for brass. So, I don't know how solid what he told me is.

Brass is an alloy of copper and zinc. It will be detected as 2 separate metals by the analysis.

370Zsteve 03-11-2010 10:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChrisSlicks (Post 439936)
Brass is an alloy of copper and zinc. It will detected as 2 separate metals by the analysis.

Beat me to it, Chris. +1 rep :tiphat:

semtex 03-11-2010 10:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChrisSlicks (Post 439936)
Brass is an alloy of copper and zinc. It will be detected as 2 separate metals by the analysis.

Ah...well then what he told me suddenly makes sense! :tup:

dlmartin81 03-11-2010 04:18 PM

FYI, here's my comments on my trip to the dealer today regarding my oil situation. Basically, it's a waiting game till the next change.

Mike@Blackline 04-06-2010 04:57 PM

love the work so far!

semtex 04-07-2010 12:34 PM

Fresh baseline dyno numbers
 
Okay, in preparation for installing the Long-Tube Headers from F.I., I went and got a fresh baseline dyno done this morning at Forged Performance. Here are the results.

HP and TQ:
http://www.the370z.com/members/semte...n-04-07-10.jpg

HP and AFR:
http://www.the370z.com/members/semte...n-04-07-10.jpg

For reference, here are the charts from my last dyno in October, when I got my ECU tuned using UpRev.

HP and TQ:
http://i618.photobucket.com/albums/t...Tune102809.jpg

HP and AFR:
http://i618.photobucket.com/albums/t...e102809_AF.jpg

So it looks like I somehow gained 4whp in between last October and now. And it's warmer today that it was back in October. Not sure how that works, but I'll take it. Actually, looking at the graphs more closely, it looks like for the one in October, Sharif lifted as soon as he hit 7500 rpm, and this morning he held it to just short of 7750. That alone might account for the slight 'gain' from last time. (I have my rev limit bumped up to 8k.)

Anyway, now I have a fresh baseline and after I get the LTHs installed, I'll take it back for another dyno (and re-tune if necessary). I'm thinking there's a real good chance I'll crack 330whp, which is a quite a feat considering the dyno that this is being done on.

vipor 04-07-2010 12:39 PM

WTB Torque...... Looks like 250 peak?

semtex 04-07-2010 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vipor (Post 485120)
WTB Torque...... Looks like 250 peak?

I'm not terribly surprised. That's why I'm getting rid of the Stillen shorty headers.

XwChriswX 04-07-2010 12:46 PM

Can you specify which number relates to what? Looks like you have the same HP as you have TQ and that can't be right.... right?

Looks like you need to update your sig! :tup:

semtex 04-07-2010 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XwChriswX (Post 485148)
Can you specify which number relates to what? Looks like you have the same HP as you have TQ and that can't be right.... right?

Looks like you need to update your sig! :tup:

I'm not sure what you mean. HP scale is on the left, TQ scale is on the right.

370Zsteve 04-07-2010 12:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by semtex (Post 485154)
I'm not sure what you mean. HP scale is on the left, TQ scale is on the right.

Chris is dyslexic.

ChrisSlicks 04-07-2010 01:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by semtex (Post 485096)
Actually, looking at the graphs more closely, it looks like for the one in October, Sharif lifted as soon as he hit 7500 rpm, and this morning he held it to just short of 7750. That alone might account for the slight 'gain' from last time. (I have my rev limit bumped up to 8k.)

It looks like that is the case if you eyeball where both plots are at 7500 they are pretty even. If he gave you the run files you can overlay them on the same chart to compare.

semtex 04-09-2010 11:25 AM

Santa came!
 
http://www.the370z.com/members/semte...damage-box.jpg

http://www.the370z.com/members/semte...ked-nicely.jpg

http://www.the370z.com/members/semte...unwrapping.jpg

http://www.the370z.com/members/semte...-condition.jpg

dlmartin81 04-09-2010 12:25 PM

Sweet!

Caravanshaka 04-09-2010 12:32 PM

hope santa installs soon!

fullmonty 04-09-2010 05:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Caravanshaka (Post 488376)
hope santa installs soon!

:santa::santa::santa::santa::hohoho::hohoho::hohoh o:

simota1 04-09-2010 09:19 PM

:D im excited for the dyno results of this....

BOLIO 671 04-12-2010 03:01 AM

Semtex...you have any updates for us on the LTH's?...Hope you do an overall review on install and everything...like you've done in the past...Throw us a bone!!!!!

semtex 04-12-2010 12:50 PM

They'll most likely be going in this week. And yes, I plan to do a full review with dyno graphs, vid clips, etc. But you'll need to be patient. I have other things going on right now that are a little more pressing.

Caravanshaka 04-12-2010 12:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by semtex (Post 493350)
They'll most likely be going in this week. And yes, I plan to do a full review with dyno graphs, vid clips, etc. But you'll need to be patient. I have other things going on right now that are a little more pressing.

that's not allowed man, you know that this forum is more important than anything else going on! :ugh2:

Good luck with the install, hopefully the results will be better than you imagined :tiphat:

BOLIO 671 04-12-2010 07:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by semtex (Post 493350)
They'll most likely be going in this week. And yes, I plan to do a full review with dyno graphs, vid clips, etc. But you'll need to be patient. I have other things going on right now that are a little more pressing.


You're absolutely right...where is my consideration....I should've known you were tied up...Especially since you didn't slap these mothers on yet....


:worship:

semtex 04-13-2010 07:12 AM

I talked to my mechanic. The plan is to put them on tomorrow (Wed).


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