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birdman71 05-24-2016 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by TerribleONE (Post 3486029)
Cars lookin good man.

Thanks brotha! :tup:
I'm happy with the way she is turning out too. I have an idea of what I am doing for the entire build now as well.
I am going to probably do the Rowen kit (front and back bumpers and sideskirts with blades) and I'm going to have Bulletproof send it off for paint more than likely as well.
Going to keep my Rae Blue color code and oem paint, will have rock chips fixed on oem paint as well. Rock chip fixes and new paint is going to be color corrected and then the whole car will get ceramic coated to protect the paint. I'm going to keep my hood and fenders most likely and paint them as well, same process. Probably going to go with the Varis CF Hyper Narrow GT wing.

Possibly have a hookup to a photo-shoot with Stance Nation soon too, if it comes through, interested in doing some duo shots? It'd be local places. Sadly will be before I get all those parts above before the photo-shoot, but that is my goal right now.

birdman71 05-24-2016 04:52 PM

Just some more pictures before I actually install the shift knob, looking to get to it later today :driving:

http://i67.tinypic.com/20f7qz7.jpg

http://i64.tinypic.com/16hrqm1.jpg

http://i63.tinypic.com/11l6dg9.jpg

http://i64.tinypic.com/1rp2ty.jpg

More to Come after its been installed!

FairladyZ40th 05-24-2016 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by birdman71 (Post 3486028)
Yeah just a couple notes to you about the ACT clutch if you went with the nd2 xtss, like I have, and NOT the hdss...

1. don't high rev downshift

2. don't downshift PERIOD lol, throw it in neutral and coast into a stop

3. Brake pads are cheaper than clutches in parts and labor

4. Learn from my dumbass



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Awe wtf!? Seriously I can't down shift? D: what's the point of having a manual??

FairladyZ40th 05-24-2016 05:05 PM

You butt! I want mine to come in soooo badly! D: maybe I should start a build thread XD


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birdman71 05-24-2016 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by FairladyZ40th (Post 3486049)
Awe wtf!? Seriously I can't down shift? D: what's the point of having a manual??

You can downshift, but the added stress on the clutch will make it wear A LOT MORE... :icon14:

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Originally Posted by FairladyZ40th (Post 3486050)
You butt! I want mine to come in soooo badly! D: maybe I should start a build thread XD


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I'm sure haha! you shoulda a long time ago lol :shakes head::yum::icon14:

FairladyZ40th 05-27-2016 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by birdman71 (Post 3486111)
You can downshift, but the added stress on the clutch will make it wear A LOT MORE... :icon14:







I'm sure haha! you shoulda a long time ago lol :shakes head::yum::icon14:



Woo! Guess what just came in the mail :) hehe brand new ACT clutch and flywheel combo ;) yeee buddy


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TerribleONE 05-27-2016 09:16 AM

I don't think downshifting with proper rev matching will wear the clutch that much. Never had a problem doing it in any of my cars.

FairladyZ40th 05-27-2016 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by TerribleONE (Post 3488088)
I don't think downshifting with proper rev matching will wear the clutch that much. Never had a problem doing it in any of my cars.



Do you have HIS exact set up?


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TerribleONE 05-27-2016 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by FairladyZ40th (Post 3488092)
Do you have HIS exact set up?


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No I am running the Specialty Z high 5 clutch but I don't see why a ACT clutch cant be downshifted. If you are rev matching properly there shouldn't be that much stress put on the clutch.

FairladyZ40th 05-27-2016 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by TerribleONE (Post 3488093)
No I am running the Specialty Z high 5 clutch but I don't see why a ACT clutch cant be downshifted. If you are rev matching properly there shouldn't be that much stress put on the clutch.



Maybe it's how rigid the pressure plate is? If I remember correctly the pressure plate Mr. Bird got is one level below ACTs strongest/stiff plates. Idk anything about specialty Zs products unfortunately but I am willing to bet that they could be a little different I. Comparison? Just a thought though...


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TerribleONE 05-27-2016 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by FairladyZ40th (Post 3488094)
Maybe it's how rigid the pressure plate is? If I remember correctly the pressure plate Mr. Bird got is one level below ACTs strongest/stiff plates. Idk anything about specialty Zs products unfortunately but I am willing to bet that they could be a little different I. Comparison? Just a thought though...


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Yea I am sure they are different but at the end of the day a clutch is a clutch and I don't think down shifting with proper rev matching causes excessive wear. I am sure it causes some, but don't think it would cause the clutch to fail prematurely.

birdman71 05-27-2016 01:55 PM

Lmao, both of you are kind of right. Allow me to explain.

This is the clutch I currently have installed that has slipped:
NZ2-XTSS // Advanced Clutch Technology

As you can tell the clutch disc has a small opening for a moderate to heavy pedal effort. This feel was EXTREMELY STIFF when first installed. This made me pretty much relearn how to drive this car which probably damaged the clutch a bit. The new clutch I'm getting has a much more open face of the clutch disc.

Here is where it went wrong:
At the time with installing of the clutch and pressure plate and ACT flywheel, I also installed the Z1 CSC elim kit, which when not adjusted correctly or every couple thousand miles, the tuning fork and throw-out bearing in the clutch system will constantly wear on the clutch causing it to slip.

That is not the main issue, but provides more than normal wear over time. The main issue is that there have been many times I have had to High Rev Downshift where the added stress on the clutch is immense. A lot of times downshifting back into the 5-6k rpm range. Usually due to other drivers around me and traffic. There have been a couple times I can count on one hand that I have burnt up the clutch. Of course I always thought "Why? if my foot is all the way off the clutch" but I figured after hearing about the fork and throw-out bearing it made more sense.

It also doesn't help doing spirited drives through GMR every month as well. Lots of shifting and lots of high rev downshifts after coming out of a turn and going into the next.


So a combination of High Rev Downshifts, fork and bearing wear and having to almost launch when in 1st has made for the Clutch Slip.

Quote:

Originally Posted by birdman71 (Post 3486028)
Yeah just a couple notes to you about the ACT clutch if you went with the nd2 xtss, like I have, and NOT the hdss...
1. don't high rev downshift
2. don't downshift PERIOD lol, throw it in neutral and coast into a stop
3. Brake pads are cheaper than clutches in parts and labor
4. Learn from my dumbass

:tup::icon18:

This is why my recommendations were:
#1: If you want ANY clutch to last the longest, but especially this one, don't down shift unless you are downshifting only up to 3500 rpm or so. The added stress on the clutch is normal at that point.
#2 : This was more of a joke, although if you think about the cost of a clutch compared to brake pads it is cheaper to buy brake pads while not downshifting to save clutch life.


Since Mig (fairladyz40th) went with the same clutch system I did as I linked above minus the Z1 csc kit, I was just letting him know not to high rev downshift and don't be a dumbass like me and wear out his clutch in 4 months like I did. Otherwise itll be another $1k outa pocket... again like me... :shakeshead: Heck right now I CANNOT get my revs above 3200, otherwise the clutch slips and shoots the revs. It also takes me close to 20 seconds to get going 35mph from a deadstop


After doing more research on the types and differences in the clutch plate, plus researching about the stock pedal vrs rjm v3.1 pedal I went with a new clutch and the rjm v3.1 pedal as well. The stock pedal will cause wear on an aftermarket clutch too.

birdman71 05-27-2016 02:03 PM

New purchases due to some clutch issues and research done:

Went with a new clutch and pressure plate since mine is currently slipping (as explained in last post haha) It is the Advanced Clutch Technologies ND2-HDSS. Also have paired it with the RJM Performance V3.1 Clutch pedal Assembly

http://i66.tinypic.com/dpdb39.jpg

http://i63.tinypic.com/28b6zcg.jpg

birdman71 06-13-2016 02:52 PM

UPDATE

Have been talking with Fly 1 Motorsports about a Sponsorship for my Z and will be finalizing everything with Lohit in the next couple of days for the Promo Photoshoot with the Weber Sports Body Kit! :tup:
The Z will be out of commission for a while with parts, paint and labor being done.

zefaulter 06-14-2016 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by birdman71 (Post 3497474)
UPDATE

Have been talking with Fly 1 Motorsports about a Sponsorship for my Z and will be finalizing everything with Lohit in the next couple of days for the Promo Photoshoot with the Weber Sports Body Kit! :tup:
The Z will be out of commission for a while with parts, paint and labor being done.

Damn she's gonna look amazing


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