[MAZOC] Official "Off-Topic" Discussion Thread

[MightyBobo]

Originally Posted by Z Stig

Hey Doc,

What oil cooler did you get? I have a 34 row from Z-1. I am interested in making a block plate. Did you take any pictures of yours?

I just measured my oil cooler, and cut a sheet of aluminum from lowes to shape. Then I used the heavy duty velcro and stuck it onto the front of the cooler. It's stuck like a champ ever since then.

And FYI, H20 - I disagree with EW on the whole "when" put the plate on. If you arent on the track, you may as well cover it up almost completely at all times, with the exception of summer. Then you can probably rock 50% coverage or so. But winter, should be 100% coverage, period.

[H2O_Doc]

Originally Posted by MightyBobo

I just measured my oil cooler, and cut a sheet of aluminum from lowes to shape. Then I used the heavy duty velcro and stuck it onto the front of the cooler. It's stuck like a champ ever since then.



And FYI, H20 - I disagree with EW on the whole "when" put the plate on. If you arent on the track, you may as well cover it up almost completely at all times, with the exception of summer. Then you can probably rock 50% coverage or so. But winter, should be 100% coverage, period.

Takjak2 made one for me exactly as you described.

As for how much to cover and when to uncover, you may well be correct.

[MightyBobo]

Originally Posted by H2O_Doc

Takjak2 made one for me exactly as you described.

As for how much to cover and when to uncover, you may well be correct.

In winter, you need the full coverage to warm up as much as possible. Come spring/summer, unless you are doing spirited driving, you can ALSO do full coverage. However, if you intend to push it a little bit, you could certainly do about 50% coverage and it will keep you nice and cool. But (depending on the size of your cooler - I'm assuming it's a 25R or larger) for the most part, you can get away with covering most of it at all times.

The oil overheating issues are almost exclusively located on the track, and at times when you plan to rev north of 4-5K for an extended period of time...

[eastwest2300]

Originally Posted by MightyBobo

And FYI, H20 - I disagree with EW on the whole "when" put the plate on. If you arent on the track, you may as well cover it up almost completely at all times, with the exception of summer. Then you can probably rock 50% coverage or so. But winter, should be 100% coverage, period.

there's a ton factors that play into it though, wouldnt you think?

Me personally, from what I've seen, If your oil temp is atleast 170 degrees, you're good. Even with the block off plate on or off, and driving on the highway at 55 degrees or more (outside temperature). You should be anywhere from 170 to 180 degrees, all day.

Right now, Bobo, you're right, the block off plate should be on. But my general rule of thumb is to watch your oil temp when your block off plate is off.

[MightyBobo]

Originally Posted by eastwest2300

there's a ton factors that play into it though, wouldnt you think?

Me personally, from what I've seen, If your oil temp is atleast 170 degrees, you're good. Even with the block off plate on or off, and driving on the highway at 55 degrees or more (outside temperature). You should be anywhere from 170 to 180 degrees, all day.

Right now, Bobo, you're right, the block off plate should be on. But my general rule of thumb is to watch your oil temp when your block off plate is off.

180-210 is certainly a nominal temperature. Any lower, and you start running into viscosity issues w/ your oil (that is, it's TOO viscous, and can cause premature wear). You can even go up to 230-240 without issue. I wont even move my plate from 100% coverage until it's north of 70-80 degrees, and to be honest, I see no reason to even budge it unless I know Im going to be driving hard for a while. I left it at 100% for one of our cruises, I just didn't drive 100% the whole time lol. No issues.

Point is, unless you are creeping past 230+ and it's still climbing, you shouldn't be worried.

[eastwest2300]

Originally Posted by MightyBobo

180-210 is certainly a nominal temperature. Any lower, and you start running into viscosity issues w/ your oil (that is, it's TOO viscous, and can cause premature wear). You can even go up to 230-240 without issue. I wont even move my plate from 100% coverage until it's north of 70-80 degrees, and to be honest, I see no reason to even budge it unless I know Im going to be driving hard for a while. I left it at 100% for one of our cruises, I just didn't drive 100% the whole time lol. No issues.

Point is, unless you are creeping past 230+ and it's still climbing, you shouldn't be worried.

Good stuff man, thanks for the insight.

[H2O_Doc]

Originally Posted by MightyBobo

180-210 is certainly a nominal temperature. Any lower, and you start running into viscosity issues w/ your oil (that is, it's TOO viscous, and can cause premature wear). You can even go up to 230-240 without issue. I wont even move my plate from 100% coverage until it's north of 70-80 degrees, and to be honest, I see no reason to even budge it unless I know Im going to be driving hard for a while. I left it at 100% for one of our cruises, I just didn't drive 100% the whole time lol. No issues.



Point is, unless you are creeping past 230+ and it's still climbing, you shouldn't be worried.

Where is oil temp measured in our cars and how much different might oil temps be in other parts of the motor?

[MightyBobo]

Originally Posted by H2O_Doc

Where is oil temp measured in our cars and how much different might oil temps be in other parts of the motor?

It's really just a function of wear, that you need to be worried. Oil lubricates optimally in the 180-230 degree range, give or take. Less than 180, and the oil can be too viscous and cause wear on your parts. Too hot, the oil loses it's ability to properly lubricate, and becomes too "loose". You want to keep it around 200, ideally.

[H2O_Doc]

Originally Posted by MightyBobo

It's really just a function of wear, that you need to be worried. Oil lubricates optimally in the 180-230 degree range, give or take. Less than 180, and the oil can be too viscous and cause wear on your parts. Too hot, the oil loses it's ability to properly lubricate, and becomes too "loose". You want to keep it around 200, ideally.

Yes, I understand. I wasn't pushing back, I was just curious. I'm wondering how oil temp changes as it moves through the motor.

[MightyBobo]

Originally Posted by H2O_Doc

Yes, I understand. I wasn't pushing back, I was just curious. I'm wondering how oil temp changes as it moves through the motor.

I didn't think you were pushing back, was just answering the question

[takjak2]

Originally Posted by H2O_Doc

Yes, I understand. I wasn't pushing back, I was just curious. I'm wondering how oil temp changes as it moves through the motor.

Oil Coolers and Over cooling

[b1adesofcha0s]

Originally Posted by MightyBobo

I just measured my oil cooler, and cut a sheet of aluminum from lowes to shape. Then I used the heavy duty velcro and stuck it onto the front of the cooler. It's stuck like a champ ever since then.

And FYI, H20 - I disagree with EW on the whole "when" put the plate on. If you arent on the track, you may as well cover it up almost completely at all times, with the exception of summer. Then you can probably rock 50% coverage or so. But winter, should be 100% coverage, period.

Im probably going to need your help to make a new block off plate for my oil cooler after I get my car back. My cousin lost mine and I've been running without it since then.