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m4a1mustang · 07-28-2012, 09:36 PM

Nice. Are you planning on carrying it?

cdoxp800 · 07-28-2012, 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

Nice. Are you planning on carrying it?

Yepp, Go the 14th for CWP Class.

m4a1mustang · 07-29-2012, 06:57 AM

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Originally Posted by cdoxp800

Yepp, Go the 14th for CWP Class.

BTW, if you are looking to carry IWB, I recommend the Comp-Tac MTAC holster. Very nice. Sturdy and the most comfortable dedicated IWB holster I've used. I have two -- one for my G26 and one for my G19.

For OWB I really like the Kydex units like these

At first I ordered a Raven Concealment Systems "Phantom" for my G17. Its nice, but production time is slow. I found this guy on GlockTalk who makes holsters that are just as nice (I have one for my G19) and a lot cheaper.

--Made in the USA-- "Protector" Multi Mission Adaptable Weapon Systems - Glock Talk Classifieds

He'll make one for whatever you want, so if he doesn't have an XD-S mold I'm sure he'll get one and make it. His turnaround time is really quick, too. I'm actually carrying my 19 in one right now.

m4a1mustang · 07-28-2012, 09:57 PM

Awesome. Looks like a good carry gun. I would recommend carrying a spare magazine just in case, but I'm sure you've thought about that already.

eastwest2300 · 07-29-2012, 01:56 AM

Steve congrats on the 1911... its pretty nasty.

eastwest2300 · 07-29-2012, 02:00 AM

Is it just me or does the XD-S have a lot of similarities to the Glock & Sig Saur in its design?

m4a1mustang · 07-29-2012, 06:24 AM

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Originally Posted by eastwest2300

Is it just me or does the XD-S have a lot of similarities to the Glock & Sig Saur in its design?

The Glock, XD, and Smith & Wesson M&P line of pistols have a lot in common. I'm not uber familiar with the Sigs.

ZCarMan · 07-29-2012, 05:49 AM

Looks like the Marines are going back to my favorite, the M1911 Colt .45. It was announced yesterday the USMC will purchase up to 12,000 of them to replace the standard issue Baretta M9 which has been their standard sidearm since it replaced the M1911 in 1985.

It has been reported that most Marines didn't like the M9 either due to lack of stopping power and/or lack of accuracy (the .45 suffers from the latter beyond a certain distance).

Marine Spec Ops already use the M1911. I personally never liked the Baretta M9. Of course you have trade offs, but in close quarters, I personally prefer the Colt. My opinions are based upon my time serving on U.S. Navy ships. where close quarters is reality. Large M-14s don't work in the tight confines of a ship (although great for overwatch). A 12 gauge shotgun and .45 is what I liked to carry when responding to intruder alerts back in the day.

Here is a pic of what the Marine version will look like.

VaGntlmn · 07-29-2012, 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by ZCarMan

Looks like the Marines are going back to my favorite, the M1911 Colt .45.

Wierd grips, but I like the looks of this!!!

m4a1mustang · 07-29-2012, 06:23 AM

You responded to intruder alerts on ship? I never really thought of that as a possibility. Always assumed our ships were "safe" from unauthorized boarding.

BTW, I agree about the M9. I don't necessarily think its a bad pistol but there are better options. Even in the 9mm space.

I thought it was MARSOC that put the order in for the 1911s for their own use. I didn't know it would be a complete replacement of the M9 (didn't we put a giant order in for new M9s recently anyways?)

ZCarMan · 07-29-2012, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

You responded to intruder alerts on ship? I never really thought of that as a possibility. Always assumed our ships were "safe" from unauthorized boarding.

BTW, I agree about the M9. I don't necessarily think its a bad pistol but there are better options. Even in the 9mm space.

I thought it was MARSOC that put the order in for the 1911s for their own use. I didn't know it would be a complete replacement of the M9 (didn't we put a giant order in for new M9s recently anyways?)

I saw a couple of articles that seem to indicate that they will only replace the worn out MARSOC M45s. Those were built for MARSOC back in the 80s by the guys at Quantico from older stock M1911s. So perhaps not an entire replacement is going to happen. Pity.

My first ship was an AE or Ammunition/Explosives. All ships have security alert teams and backup alert forces composed of ships company. Marines were the exclusive security force on Aircraft Carriers when they had 200 member Marine Detachments (MARDETS) back in the day. We had to train to respond to all kinds of threats from intruders to terrorists to enviro nutwhacks who used to like to do crazy stuff. We had fun with them.

m4a1mustang · 07-29-2012, 07:39 AM

Now that Springfield and S&W both have single-stack versions of their double-stack XD and M&P line, I wonder if Glock will consider making a competing slim-profile single-stack. I doubt it, but it would be nice if they did!

eastwest2300 · 07-29-2012, 01:10 PM

Steve your picture with this guy in his weapon looks crazy.. is that a scope on his weapon?

m4a1mustang · 07-29-2012, 01:12 PM

Its a reflex sight

eastwest2300 · 07-29-2012, 02:36 PM

Whats a reflex sight?

07-28-2012, 09:36 PM	#1 (permalink)
m4a1mustang A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Northern VA Posts: 55,385 Drives: on two wheels Rep Power: 6964	Nice. Are you planning on carrying it? __________________ - Steve Zs & Coffee - Saturdays at 10AM in Fairfax, VA and Columbia, MD (Click the banner!) LIKE us on Facebook!

07-28-2012, 09:57 PM	#4 (permalink)
m4a1mustang A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Northern VA Posts: 55,385 Drives: on two wheels Rep Power: 6964	Awesome. Looks like a good carry gun. I would recommend carrying a spare magazine just in case, but I'm sure you've thought about that already. __________________ - Steve Zs & Coffee - Saturdays at 10AM in Fairfax, VA and Columbia, MD (Click the banner!) LIKE us on Facebook!

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eastwest2300 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2010 Location: South FL Posts: 91,035 Drives: '16QX70/'21 Supra3.0 Rep Power: 2684553	Is it just me or does the XD-S have a lot of similarities to the Glock & Sig Saur in its design? __________________ Infiniti QX70 & Toyota Supra 3.0 Premium

07-29-2012, 05:49 AM	#8 (permalink)
ZCarMan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: MD Posts: 4,488 Drives: 09 Z34, 13 F-150 Rep Power: 27	Looks like the Marines are going back to my favorite, the M1911 Colt .45. It was announced yesterday the USMC will purchase up to 12,000 of them to replace the standard issue Baretta M9 which has been their standard sidearm since it replaced the M1911 in 1985. It has been reported that most Marines didn't like the M9 either due to lack of stopping power and/or lack of accuracy (the .45 suffers from the latter beyond a certain distance). Marine Spec Ops already use the M1911. I personally never liked the Baretta M9. Of course you have trade offs, but in close quarters, I personally prefer the Colt. My opinions are based upon my time serving on U.S. Navy ships. where close quarters is reality. Large M-14s don't work in the tight confines of a ship (although great for overwatch). A 12 gauge shotgun and .45 is what I liked to carry when responding to intruder alerts back in the day. Here is a pic of what the Marine version will look like. __________________ Jon Swift \| SPC \| Stillen \| Motordyne \| AAM \| Cobb \| Hawk \| Volk Racing \| Bridgestone Green Demon Eyes

07-29-2012, 06:23 AM	#10 (permalink)
m4a1mustang A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Northern VA Posts: 55,385 Drives: on two wheels Rep Power: 6964	You responded to intruder alerts on ship? I never really thought of that as a possibility. Always assumed our ships were "safe" from unauthorized boarding. BTW, I agree about the M9. I don't necessarily think its a bad pistol but there are better options. Even in the 9mm space. I thought it was MARSOC that put the order in for the 1911s for their own use. I didn't know it would be a complete replacement of the M9 (didn't we put a giant order in for new M9s recently anyways?) __________________ - Steve Zs & Coffee - Saturdays at 10AM in Fairfax, VA and Columbia, MD (Click the banner!) LIKE us on Facebook! Last edited by m4a1mustang; 07-29-2012 at 06:27 AM.

07-29-2012, 07:39 AM	#12 (permalink)
m4a1mustang A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Northern VA Posts: 55,385 Drives: on two wheels Rep Power: 6964	Now that Springfield and S&W both have single-stack versions of their double-stack XD and M&P line, I wonder if Glock will consider making a competing slim-profile single-stack. I doubt it, but it would be nice if they did! __________________ - Steve Zs & Coffee - Saturdays at 10AM in Fairfax, VA and Columbia, MD (Click the banner!) LIKE us on Facebook!

07-29-2012, 01:10 PM	#13 (permalink)
eastwest2300 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2010 Location: South FL Posts: 91,035 Drives: '16QX70/'21 Supra3.0 Rep Power: 2684553	Steve your picture with this guy in his weapon looks crazy.. is that a scope on his weapon? __________________ Infiniti QX70 & Toyota Supra 3.0 Premium

07-29-2012, 01:12 PM	#14 (permalink)
m4a1mustang A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Northern VA Posts: 55,385 Drives: on two wheels Rep Power: 6964	Its a reflex sight __________________ - Steve Zs & Coffee - Saturdays at 10AM in Fairfax, VA and Columbia, MD (Click the banner!) LIKE us on Facebook!

07-29-2012, 02:36 PM	#15 (permalink)
eastwest2300 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2010 Location: South FL Posts: 91,035 Drives: '16QX70/'21 Supra3.0 Rep Power: 2684553	Whats a reflex sight? __________________ Infiniti QX70 & Toyota Supra 3.0 Premium

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