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VABAM · 11-28-2015, 09:23 PM

That sucks.

(the mount)

m4a1mustang · 11-28-2015, 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by VABAM

That sucks.

(the mount)

Yeah it's alright, though. I'm just going to put it on the Christmas list.

VABAM · 11-28-2015, 09:29 PM

I got a feeling she will. The recoil is on par or less than an AR-15. Since it is a long stroke piston gun the recoil will feel different. The recoil with the 9mm conversion is laughable. I've shoot 22lr rifles with more kick.

m4a1mustang · 11-29-2015, 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by VABAM

I got a feeling she will. The recoil is on par or less than an AR-15. Since it is a long stroke piston gun the recoil will feel different. The recoil with the 9mm conversion is laughable. I've shoot 22lr rifles with more kick.

The only thing I don't like about it so far is the weight... it's a lot heavier than an AR. Even though the majority of that weight is to the rear, and it balances very well, it just feels like it's 1-2lbs too heavy for the size. Not too bad, though. Crazy that the overall length of this thing is pretty much on par with a 10.5" AR with the stock fully collapsed.

Also, in dry firing, the trigger seems okay. A little stiff but not as bad as I have heard. I need to actually shoot it before forming an opinion, though.

eastwest2300 · 11-28-2015, 10:47 PM

Nice purchase steve.

Tigger · 12-04-2015, 04:02 PM

My new toy! H&K P39SK IN 9mm. This thing would be sweet in a 10mm but, eh, whatever. Still shoots very nicely.

VABAM · 12-04-2015, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Tigger

My new toy! H&K P39SK IN 9mm. This thing would be sweet in a 10mm but, eh, whatever. Still shoots very nicely.

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Thought you said you would never get a 9mm?
#45forlife

Tigger · 12-04-2015, 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by VABAM

Thought you said you would never get a 9mm?

#45forlife

yeah but logic took hold. i can't deny the benefit of a 9mm forever. and this fills the gap in the home defense line. so i'm good with it. now, if they made this in 45, then yes, i would have taken that one. but this will work just fine.

VABAM · 12-04-2015, 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Tigger

yeah but logic took hold. i can't deny the benefit of a 9mm forever. and this fills the gap in the home defense line. so i'm good with it. now, if they made this in 45, then yes, i would have taken that one. but this will work just fine.

Could have gotten an XDs in 45.
Nice buy though, welcome to the HK family!

There is a reason I have 6 HKs.

I like the P30's in general but HK messed up with that slide mounted decocker. I prefer the decocker to be apart of the safety like all the rest of HK pistol family. Also since the decocker is on the slide you can't swap out the triggers like you can with the USP, P200, HK45, and the non-slide mounted decocker variants of the P30. That is one of the reasons I want a P30L V1. The other reason is that the V1 has the LEM light trigger like what I have installed in my HK45s

Tigger · 12-04-2015, 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by VABAM

Could have gotten an XDs in 45.

Nice buy though, welcome to the HK family!

There is a reason I have 6 HKs.

I like the P30's in general but HK messed up with that slide mounted decocker. I prefer the decocker to be apart of the safety like all the rest of HK pistol family. Also since the decocker is on the slide you can't swap out the triggers like you can with the USP, P200, HK45, and the non-slide mounted decocker variants of the P30. That is one of the reasons I want a P30L V1. The other reason is that the V1 has the LEM light trigger like what I have installed in my HK45s

I didn't want another XDwhatever. I already had one. Just wouldn't be on par with what i already have in the M. And I've always wanted an HK. This one was tucked back in a darker corner of the case and you really couldn't make out what it was. Kind of like an omen.

I love the compactness of it and the action on the slide. The decocker was a big plus for me. I don't give a **** that it is on the back of the slide. From your perspective they screwed up but I think it was a smart decision. And I like that it doesn't have a safety lever. That makes it quicker for me to operate and no mishandling possibilities between the slide release and safety like i've experienced on other pistols. These polymers were designed for speed and efficiency. Glad they stuck to that concept.

m4a1mustang · 12-04-2015, 07:38 PM

For compactness I'm more than fine with my Kahr CM9 and Glock 26!

ZCarMan · 12-07-2015, 05:42 PM

This video is entertaining. I can't imagine anyone doing the things done to this particular VP9, but I always enjoy when they do torture tests on any firearm just to see what it can and can not withstand.

m4a1mustang · 12-12-2015, 11:18 AM

Any of you Tavor guys shoot Wolf or TulAmmo without any issues? Aside from the need for deep cleaning, of course.

Everything good is gone, so I think I need to stock up on some cheap **** for plinking!

Tigger · 12-12-2015, 11:48 AM

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Any of you Tavor guys shoot Wolf or TulAmmo without any issues? Aside from the need for deep cleaning, of course.

Everything good is gone, so I think I need to stock up on some cheap **** for plinking!

ew. i have a hard time with the concept of shooting steel. i've done it, but didn't care for it. no real feed issues but my pride was severely diminished. lol

Tigger · 12-12-2015, 11:49 AM

oh. you said tavor. ummm. but my statement about pride still applies.

11-28-2015, 09:23 PM	#1 (permalink)
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11-28-2015, 09:29 PM	#3 (permalink)
VABAM A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2010 Location: No Where VA Posts: 4,003 Drives: with VDC off. Rep Power: 198	I got a feeling she will. The recoil is on par or less than an AR-15. Since it is a long stroke piston gun the recoil will feel different. The recoil with the 9mm conversion is laughable. I've shoot 22lr rifles with more kick. __________________ 2009 370Z Touring W/SP

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m4a1mustang A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Northern VA Posts: 55,385 Drives: on two wheels Rep Power: 6964	For compactness I'm more than fine with my Kahr CM9 and Glock 26! __________________ - Steve Zs & Coffee - Saturdays at 10AM in Fairfax, VA and Columbia, MD (Click the banner!) LIKE us on Facebook!

12-07-2015, 05:42 PM	#12 (permalink)
ZCarMan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: MD Posts: 4,488 Drives: 09 Z34, 13 F-150 Rep Power: 28	This video is entertaining. I can't imagine anyone doing the things done to this particular VP9, but I always enjoy when they do torture tests on any firearm just to see what it can and can not withstand. __________________ Jon Swift \| SPC \| Stillen \| Motordyne \| AAM \| Cobb \| Hawk \| Volk Racing \| Bridgestone Green Demon Eyes

12-04-2015, 04:02 PM	#6 (permalink)
Tigger A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: NM Posts: 8,063 Drives: Awedeeeeee Rep Power: 604	My new toy! H&K P39SK IN 9mm. This thing would be sweet in a 10mm but, eh, whatever. Still shoots very nicely.

12-12-2015, 11:18 AM	#13 (permalink)
m4a1mustang A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Northern VA Posts: 55,385 Drives: on two wheels Rep Power: 6964	Any of you Tavor guys shoot Wolf or TulAmmo without any issues? Aside from the need for deep cleaning, of course. Everything good is gone, so I think I need to stock up on some cheap ** for plinking! __________________ - Steve Zs & Coffee - Saturdays at 10AM in Fairfax, VA and Columbia, MD (Click the banner!) LIKE us on Facebook!**

12-12-2015, 11:49 AM	#15 (permalink)
Tigger A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: NM Posts: 8,063 Drives: Awedeeeeee Rep Power: 604	oh. you said tavor. ummm. but my statement about pride still applies.

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