What are you reading right now?

Chuck33079 · 04-01-2014, 07:02 AM

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Originally Posted by 3.7 ZPA

I just finished reading "To Conquer Hell," about America's involvement in the Argonne Forest offensive in WW1. The beginning had a brief history of General Pershing up to the time we declared war on Germany in 1917. Pretty harrowing.

Those are the kind of books that make you realize how pussified we've gotten since then. I spent some time with a WW2 vet over the weekend and those generations were some hard motherfuckers.

edit- motherfuckers isn't censored?

exsanity · 04-01-2014, 07:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079

Those are the kind of books that make you realize how pussified we've gotten since then. I spent some time with a WW2 vet over the weekend and those generations were some hard motherfuckers.

edit- motherfuckers isn't censored?

That's exactly how hardcore those motherfuckers are.. the system can't even censor it.

Chuck33079 · 04-01-2014, 07:09 AM

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That's exactly how hardcore those motherfuckers are.. the system can't even censor it.

Our troops today have some horrible **** to deal with, but the guys in WW1 were fighting in trenches. Holy ****. I'm not even sure I can wrap my head around how brutal that was.

exsanity · 04-01-2014, 07:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079

Our troops today have some horrible **** to deal with, but the guys in WW1 were fighting in trenches. Holy ****. I'm not even sure I can wrap my head around how brutal that was.

The real problem is the DoD is pussifying our soldiers by coddling them.

Chuck33079 · 04-01-2014, 07:14 AM

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The real problem is the DoD is pussifying our soldiers by coddling them.

I think it's more of an issue with society in general than a military-specific issue, but I'm a civilian so I don't know my *** from a hole in the ground.

exsanity · 04-01-2014, 08:24 AM

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I think it's more of an issue with society in general than a military-specific issue, but I'm a civilian so I don't know my *** from a hole in the ground.

This is way off topic here, but I'm in it and I see what is going on. I think society is influencing it, but when soldiers can't be made to feel "uncomfortable" by a superior NCO or officer (and I mean uncomfortable like corrective action, not akward) the system has gone soft. You can ask any current NCO and they'll tell you that they've taken any and all training tools away from NCOs.

Chuck33079 · 04-01-2014, 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by exsanity

This is way off topic here, but I'm in it and I see what is going on. I think society is influencing it, but when soldiers can't be made to feel "uncomfortable" by a superior NCO or officer (and I mean uncomfortable like corrective action, not akward) the system has gone soft. You can ask any current NCO and they'll tell you that they've taken any and all training tools away from NCOs.

God forbid the guys we're tuning into ******* warriors get their tender feeling hurt. The guy I hung out with this weekend was in a B-29 over the pacific. I'll ask him if they ever cared about his feelings or self esteem.

3.7 ZPA · 04-01-2014, 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079

Those are the kind of books that make you realize how pussified we've gotten since then. I spent some time with a WW2 vet over the weekend and those generations were some hard motherfuckers.

edit- motherfuckers isn't censored?

You're not kidding. Not only that, but machine guns and high explosives were new, and our leadership didn't know how to tactically deal with them. France was a ******* meat-grinder. Some of the stories quoted from soldiers in the book will make you **** your pants.

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