Looking for an SUV

LunaZ · 12-18-2013, 01:27 PM

I can't speak for current or the newest, ugliest Grand Cherokee but I can tell you my last Chrysler/Jeep product was garbage and others who had similar models and years concurred.

Make sure you're in your Z when you drive it off the cliff

ImportConvert · 12-18-2013, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by LunaZ

I can't speak for current or the newest, ugliest Grand Cherokee but I can tell you my last Chrysler/Jeep product was garbage and others who had similar models and years concurred.

Make sure you're in your Z when you drive it off the cliff

Look, not everyone likes shitty little cars that break when you look at them funny, I'm sorry I hurt your feelings.

Now, what kind of Jeep/Chrysler did you have, exactly?

LunaZ · 12-18-2013, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert

Look, not everyone likes shitty little cars that break when you look at them funny, I'm sorry I hurt your feelings.

Now, what kind of Jeep/Chrysler did you have, exactly?

I'm not hurt at all.
My shitty little car has yet to break down.

I'm of no help to you. I just smelled trollage and thought I'd play along.
You already know what you want, what you like and what you don't like. Why are you asking us?

ImportConvert · 12-18-2013, 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by LunaZ

I'm not hurt at all.
My shitty little car has yet to break down.

I'm of no help to you. I just smelled trollage and thought I'd play along.
You already know what you want, what you like and what you don't like. Why are you asking us?

Well lucky you. I'm tired of paying for repairs and dealing with messed up ****, and I'm still under 3/36. Screw that. My 1980's mustang had more robust brake components (Even if it didn't stop as well, I only needed ONE set of rotors, not 3.), and the transmission in my 2001 Trans Am was a much better component, and NONE of my other cars had power steering pumps that whined like a mofo "from the factory, as normal, per the manufacturer". So, I'm glad your car isn't a shitbox, but mine is, and so is Nissan's customer service, so why in the world would I keep this thing past 3/36? It's junk.

Clapped out and ready to be thrown away as far as I'm concerned. It's reached the stage in its life where it will always have **** going wrong with it and cost you money every time you turn around. You know, the stage at which domestics normally reach in 5-7 years where you finally break down and buy a new one because the repairs > a note. Yeah, it's getting there before it's even out from under 3/36. Really, I cannot express enough disdain for the Nissan brand or the 370Z product, in general. I just want OUT of it before I get too far out from under warranty (31K miles right now) and have to pay hand over fist just to keep it on the road. THe power steering moans and groans like a whore and that's embarrassing enough everyone staring at it when I pull into a parking-lot, or it sounding like a damn supercharger pulling up to a traffic light. I can only imagine what those buggers would charge me to replace it when it finally goes, probably at 37K miles, lol!

I've gotten some good info from this thread, and am considering the 4-runner special edition, now, as well. As well as some validation of my choice of the GJC from everyone who has owned or experienced one.

Chuck33079 · 12-18-2013, 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert

Well lucky you. I'm tired of paying for repairs and dealing with messed up ****, and I'm still under 3/36. Screw that. My 1980's mustang had more robust brake components (Even if it didn't stop as well, I only needed ONE set of rotors, not 3.), and the transmission in my 2001 Trans Am was a much better component, and NONE of my other cars had power steering pumps that whined like a mofo "from the factory, as normal, per the manufacturer". So, I'm glad your car isn't a shitbox, but mine is, and so is Nissan's customer service, so why in the world would I keep this thing past 3/36? It's junk.

Clapped out and ready to be thrown away as far as I'm concerned. It's reached the stage in its life where it will always have **** going wrong with it and cost you money every time you turn around. You know, the stage at which domestics normally reach in 5-7 years where you finally break down and buy a new one because the repairs > a note. Yeah, it's getting there before it's even out from under 3/36. Really, I cannot express enough disdain for the Nissan brand or the 370Z product, in general. I just want OUT of it before I get too far out from under warranty (31K miles right now) and have to pay hand over fist just to keep it on the road. THe power steering moans and groans like a whore and that's embarrassing enough everyone staring at it when I pull into a parking-lot, or it sounding like a damn supercharger pulling up to a traffic light. I can only imagine what those buggers would charge me to replace it when it finally goes, probably at 37K miles, lol!

I've gotten some good info from this thread, and am considering the 4-runner special edition, now, as well. As well as some validation of my choice of the GJC from everyone who has owned or experienced one.

Finally, we get to the whole point of the thread. Another anti-Nissan rant. We get it. You got a lemon and are pissed about it. If I were so fed up with a product, I would not be going on that respective forum soliciting input on the replacement. i would go to the forum of the vehicle I was considering purchasing. Sorry for your experience, maybe you could just move on? Why waste your time on a forum for a car you hate from a company you despise?

Did you ever take it to a different dealer, or are you still absolutely convinced they're flawless and it's the car, which no one else has had the same problems you have, that is the real issue?

Isamu · 12-18-2013, 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079

Finally, we get to the whole point of the thread. Another anti-Nissan rant. We get it. You got a lemon and are pissed about it. If I were so fed up with a product, I would not be going on that respective forum soliciting input on the replacement. i would go to the forum of the vehicle I was considering purchasing. Sorry for your experience, maybe you could just move on? Why waste your time on a forum for a car you hate from a company you despise?

Did you ever take it to a different dealer, or are you still absolutely convinced they're flawless and it's the car, which no one else has had the same problems you have, that is the real issue?

truth be told, he is a lonely man, and just needs attention from other males to make himself feel ok... ORRRRRRR Karma just bit him in the butt for being such a douche

ImportConvert · 12-18-2013, 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079

Finally, we get to the whole point of the thread. Another anti-Nissan rant. We get it. You got a lemon and are pissed about it. If I were so fed up with a product, I would not be going on that respective forum soliciting input on the replacement. i would go to the forum of the vehicle I was considering purchasing. Sorry for your experience, maybe you could just move on? Why waste your time on a forum for a car you hate from a company you despise?

Did you ever take it to a different dealer, or are you still absolutely convinced they're flawless and it's the car, which no one else has had the same problems you have, that is the real issue?

Well, the problem is Nissan. They finally admitted the brake issue. They were using a pneumatic wrench to tighten the lug nuts. This car can't withstand such. It warped the rotors. They found this out when their gtr tech attended a conference in Texas. Used a hand powered tool, and all is better. Shitty design.

Powersteering pump whining like a belt driven sc is normal for economy cars, they say. That includes altimas with more curvy sheetmetal.

I post here because I wish someone honest about the platform had clued me in before I bought it, although 5_0 tried, he wasn't near as openly vocal about it as I'm being. Just trying to look out for anyone considering one of these poser sports cars.

Any way I can hurt nissan, I will. I hope my posts and the incidents o have recounted cost sales. **** em.

AK370Z · 12-18-2013, 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert

Well lucky you. I'm tired of paying for repairs and dealing with messed up ****, and I'm still under 3/36. Screw that. My 1980's mustang had more robust brake components (Even if it didn't stop as well, I only needed ONE set of rotors, not 3.), and the transmission in my 2001 Trans Am was a much better component, and NONE of my other cars had power steering pumps that whined like a mofo "from the factory, as normal, per the manufacturer". So, I'm glad your car isn't a shitbox, but mine is, and so is Nissan's customer service, so why in the world would I keep this thing past 3/36? It's junk.

Clapped out and ready to be thrown away as far as I'm concerned. It's reached the stage in its life where it will always have **** going wrong with it and cost you money every time you turn around. You know, the stage at which domestics normally reach in 5-7 years where you finally break down and buy a new one because the repairs > a note. Yeah, it's getting there before it's even out from under 3/36. Really, I cannot express enough disdain for the Nissan brand or the 370Z product, in general. I just want OUT of it before I get too far out from under warranty (31K miles right now) and have to pay hand over fist just to keep it on the road. THe power steering moans and groans like a whore and that's embarrassing enough everyone staring at it when I pull into a parking-lot, or it sounding like a damn supercharger pulling up to a traffic light. I can only imagine what those buggers would charge me to replace it when it finally goes, probably at 37K miles, lol!

I've gotten some good info from this thread, and am considering the 4-runner special edition, now, as well. As well as some validation of my choice of the GJC from everyone who has owned or experienced one.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ImportConvert

Well, the problem is Nissan. They finally admitted the brake issue. They were using a pneumatic wrench to tighten the lug nuts. This car can't withstand such. It warped the rotors. They found this out when their gtr tech attended a conference in Texas. Used a hand powered tool, and all is better. Shitty design.

Powersteering pump whining like a belt driven sc is normal for economy cars, they say. That includes altimas with more curvy sheetmetal.

I post here because I wish someone honest about the platform had clued me in before I bought it, although 5_0 tried, he wasn't near as openly vocal about it as I'm being. Just trying to look out for anyone considering one of these poser sports cars.

Any way I can hurt nissan, I will. I hope my posts and the incidents o have recounted cost sales. **** em.

Hi,
How can do you still have 3 years/36,000 miles bumper to bumper warranty and still "tired of paying for repairs"? Anything happen during 3/36 is fixed under warranty with no questions asked. I do not understand that statement. Please elaborate

AND if you're so concerned with paying out of pocket for repair, why didn't your buy Nissan Silver or Gold preffered warranty? They are darn cheap! My car currently has 83,xxx miles and I still have bumper to bumper till 2016 or 120K miles. Do you know how many trips I have made to the dealer for repairs in my last 5 years or 83,000 miles? 3 times. 1st time I overtightened one lug (Front Right wheel) with a faulty Harbor Freight tq wrench (totally my fault. Can't blame Nissan). 2nd instance was when steering lock went out but it was the most pleasant experience I had considering the crappy situation (steeling lock going bad). A flatbed tow truck was sent with a very courteous driver, I sat with him to dealer, dealer gave me rental till the car is fixed. Dealer overnighted the steering lock and the very next day I had the car back in perfect shape. I don't know how much better experience I can ask for. 3rd instance was with crank position sensor. As usual, dropped the car off and walked out with a loaner. Everything was done within 2 business day and ALL I had to pay was $50 deductible.

If your car is giving you power steering whining, you need to take it to the dealer. You're still under 3/36 and they will fix it free. You get a loaner. Whining to us, isn't going to solve anything. You complained about brake issue. The issue is "not so great" akebono rotors. They go bad around 30K. I changed them to Stoptech regular replacement from tirerack ($97 a piece for front and even cheaper for rear) and you should come drive my car! Even 25K miles later on those rotors, car stops on a dime, no shake or vibrations what so ever. I did 1 hpde track day and about 90+ autox runs this year = no issues. I personally think pneumatic wrench has nothing to do with it. Why? bc my mechanic used pneumatic wrench many times after stoptech replacement, no issues. I changed tires at shop and pneumatic wrench was used, no problem. Forum is the place where you research and find out what's wrong and go fix it. Instead of arguing, learn and change should be the right attitude.

Lets switch position for a sec: lets say you're the admin of a huge Mustang 5.0 forum and I'm importconvert_5.0, a member who owns 5.0 mustang. Every day I constantly bash this 5.0 Mustang to no point, I call out Ford as a pos, I call out mustang as the biggest pos, I wish to hurt the Ford any way I can by spreading my stories and engage in regular argument with 5.0 enthusiasts that their car sucks! What do you think will happen to me on that forum? Let me let you in a real secret: I'll be gone when I create my 3rd thread! You have to understand just bc you're having all these issues (and you should look into lemon laws if you're so fed up?) with your Z, maybe it's your Z that wasn't so lucky out of the factory. There are hundreds and thousands of satisfied owners here. Some rarely ever made a trip to dealer in 40-50-60,000 miles. If you're constantly bashing a car coming to that car specific forum, you will not gain popularity among member or admin. If 370Z is giving you so much issues, perhaps you should trade it in. But you're pushing my patience to the edge and you're randomly picking argument and telling 370Z enthusiasts on a 370Z forum that their 370Z sucks. Just because I am a nice guy (admin), please don't take advantage of me. Think for a second where you are and have a little respect for other 370Z enthusiasts here. I'll appreciate if you stop your constant 370Z bashing here on THE370z

Thank you.

A. Kaiser

ImportConvert · 12-18-2013, 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079

Finally, we get to the whole point of the thread. Another anti-Nissan rant. We get it. You got a lemon and are pissed about it. If I were so fed up with a product, I would not be going on that respective forum soliciting input on the replacement. i would go to the forum of the vehicle I was considering purchasing. Sorry for your experience, maybe you could just move on? Why waste your time on a forum for a car you hate from a company you despise?

Did you ever take it to a different dealer, or are you still absolutely convinced they're flawless and it's the car, which no one else has had the same problems you have, that is the real issue?

Well, the problem is Nissan. They finally admitted the brake issue. They were using a pneumatic wrench to tighten the lug nuts. This car can't withstand such. It warped the rotors. They found this out when their gtr tech attended a conference in Texas. Used a hand powered tool, and all is better. Shitty design.

Powersteering pump whining like a belt driven sc is normal for economy cars, they say. That includes altimas with more curvy sheetmetal.

I post here because I wish someone honest about the platform had clued me in before I bought it, although 5_0 tried, he wasn't near as openly vocal about it as I'm being. Just trying to look out for anyone considering one of these poser sports cars.

Any way I can hurt nissan, I will. I hope my posts and the incidents o have recounted cost sales. **** em.

alcheng · 12-18-2013, 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert

Well, I finally bought 35 acres in NorthWest Arkansas. Beautiful place on the top of a mountain. Only problem is, it snows there. I also am planning to do a lot of camping/hiking/etc. and need the extra space in a vehicle to do that.

What kind of SUV should I trade my 370Z for?

Right now, I am looking at a 2009/2010 Grand Jeep Cherokee Overland/Limited V8, 4WD.

I want to spend around $20K, give/take a few.

Suggestions?

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079

Finally, we get to the whole point of the thread. Another anti-Nissan rant. We get it. You got a lemon and are pissed about it. If I were so fed up with a product, I would not be going on that respective forum soliciting input on the replacement. i would go to the forum of the vehicle I was considering purchasing. Sorry for your experience, maybe you could just move on? Why waste your time on a forum for a car you hate from a company you despise?

Did you ever take it to a different dealer, or are you still absolutely convinced they're flawless and it's the car, which no one else has had the same problems you have, that is the real issue?

nah... read the 1st post from OP, he was simply just asking for advice on SUV...

but then throughout the thread his rants started to take off....

anyway, now you know your choice of SUV, good luck in your car-shopping and have fun....

but no point to bash the brand so badly since yours is one individual case.

My friend had a 350z for 4 years with 160,000km+ and the only problem was the driver's side window-motor, and it was because of wear&tear.

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