top 10 Deadliest Cars on the Road

H2O_Doc · 12-16-2013, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by XiP

there's a lot of other factors you should consider other than "crash deaths and the vehicles in which drivers met their end"... vehicle safety, driver demographics, locations, weather, etc...

These sorts of statistics tell us at least a little something about vehicle safety (or allude to things to consider), though some thought needs to go into teasing it out. As far as demographics, locations, weather, some of that could be pulled out in a multiple regression analysis or some other method, but THESE data can tell us something and that something might be very useful. At a minimum, they are a stepping stone to further analysis.

Access to data are important to the consumer and I find the sorts of reports that IHS and other groups put together interesting.

ElVee · 12-17-2013, 09:52 AM

I thought it was interesting to split out single vehicle vs multi-vehicle incidents. Single vehicle incidents probably indicate a vehicle that is difficult to handle either before or during an incident. Hence the look at ESC on things like the 350Z.

H2O_Doc · 12-17-2013, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by ElVee

I thought it was interesting to split out single vehicle vs multi-vehicle incidents. Single vehicle incidents probably indicate a vehicle that is difficult to handle either before or during an incident. Hence the look at ESC on things like the 350Z.

What was really surprising to me was how many of the sv deaths were from rollovers in the 350Z.

TerribleONE · 12-17-2013, 04:02 PM

Cmike2780 · 12-17-2013, 04:25 PM

You're better off using IIHS ratings. It's usually not the car that makes them so deadly, it's how those cars are driven/crashed. The Z or any car on the list is just as safe as any other car when driven responsibly. It's about the driver, not the car.

...It would be like saying you have to be an as$hole & cut people off without signaling if you drive a BMW.

axmea? · 12-18-2013, 12:36 AM

Thanks for the link. I ended up watching Sport Illustrated's Kate Upton's body painting vid which was more entertaining and believable/credible. It was her body right?
BTW, WallStCheatSheet is made up of a bunch of freelance writers whose work do not go through extensive validation. Believe it at your own risk.

1325 · 12-18-2013, 06:26 AM

I feel like an elitist driving a death machine.

H2O_Doc · 12-18-2013, 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by axmea?

Thanks for the link. I ended up watching Sport Illustrated's Kate Upton's body painting vid which was more entertaining and believable/credible. It was her body right?
BTW, WallStCheatSheet is made up of a bunch of freelance writers whose work do not go through extensive validation. Believe it at your own risk.

Good call on the video.

The numbers are from IIHS, not Wall Street. They do add their own discussion, but you can check the numbers if you really ever wanted to.

axmea? · 12-18-2013, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by H2O_Doc

Good call on the video.

The numbers are from IIHS, not Wall Street. They do add their own discussion, but you can check the numbers if you really ever wanted to.

Oh wow. I get where the numbers were taken from. It's the blog oriented, freelance writing, and minimal review that I was pointing out. Clearly the writing is to stir up thought and debate but is it entirely true?

H2O_Doc · 12-18-2013, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by axmea?

Oh wow. I get where the numbers were taken from. It's the blog oriented, freelance writing, and minimal review that I was pointing out. Clearly the writing is to stir up thought and debate but is it entirely true?

Well, a healthy amount of skepticism is a very good thing and something we see often in inquiring minds. I'd not criticize someone for a healthy and reasonable amount of skepticism. I think skeptics are the ones that save us from the dreaded "common knowledge."

What I will say, and what puzzled me about some of the comments here, is there really is little more than a rehash of numbers in the article and those numbers, as I suggested earlier, do tell us something. DE rightly pointed out that our CONCLUSIONS must be tempered by things like the sample size, methods, study design, etc.; that we be careful in ascribing too much meaning to the numbers.

nmjaxx9 · 12-22-2013, 02:26 PM

Post this on my350z and see how many people are gonna sell or trade their cars after reading this.

XiP · 12-18-2013, 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by axmea?

Thanks for the link. I ended up watching Sport Illustrated's Kate Upton's body painting vid which was more entertaining and believable/credible. It was her body right?
BTW, WallStCheatSheet is made up of a bunch of freelance writers whose work do not go through extensive validation. Believe it at your own risk.

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ElVee Track Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Iowa Posts: 750 Drives: 13 370z 7at t+s grey Rep Power: 17	I thought it was interesting to split out single vehicle vs multi-vehicle incidents. Single vehicle incidents probably indicate a vehicle that is difficult to handle either before or during an incident. Hence the look at ESC on things like the 350Z.

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