Good point. I had not thought of it that way before. I've had girlfriends before and even though I'm single now I don't feel like I'm unhappy without one. You're right it's just those societal norms that make people ask those questions. :tup:

Because it's not the "social norm." I'll chime in with a little bit of my personal past (unwarranted but going to anyways) I dated a girl for over 10 years off and on and over 8 years steady. We met in elementary school and started dating in middle school. We went all the way through our sophomore year of college (we also went to the same college). We started bickering a lot and drifting apart around that time and she was wanting to quit school and have a baby extremely hardcore for some reason, and I just wasn't going to do that. Long story short, we broke up and she quit school and year and half later she was prego. Broke my heart, and ever since then I just can't find that connection that we had. I don't know if its the connection I miss or the comfortability I miss. IDK. ANYWAYS, I've met women in my age range (I'm 25) and they're either sketchy as hell or severely immature. Am I happy being single? Yes. Do I miss that odd/beautiful/nagging connection? Yes. It's just a really weird time for guys in our age to find someone thats compatible and not absolutely bat **** crazy. Hope this helps you, I feel better just telling someone else something that I've been keeping to myself for quite a while.. Even if it is to people I don't know.

Alpha, I can't begin to tell you how accurate of a portrayal that was of my own life in the present. It's like many of them possess the same M.O. and have baggage they seem to lug around that they're unwilling to part from.

hey alpha, mspint (pintsize725) has a premium membership only thread where you can post all the hate you have about something or someone to release. :tup: not good keeping it all inside.

so what do you do when you meet another girl that you have chemistry with when you already have a gf? Its not that I don't have chemistry with the gf, but 5 years is along time together....and its the only real relationship I've had. Idk if I'm freaking out because she's the one, or because I feel trapt and I have another girl on the line. Both girls we can talk about anything and not feel akward....also girl #2 is about 30 lbs lighter so for the car it would help, but she has no real "Assets"...doesnt matter to much on that part. I'm just stuck I'm pretty sure im just being a coward and not wanting to get married like girl #1 is pushing for.

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I laughed at the lighter on the car :icon17: allow me to chime in:
I have a friend that was in a simillar situation,she was with the first real relationsihp for 4+ years until he finally proposed and she said yes. It was then that she realized how much she was missing. she had dude friends but wouldnt do much since she was heading for marriage. for those 5 years all she knew was one guy. she would tell me, he was the one but her mind was not where it needed to be, she felt if she married she'd wonder "what if". long story short, she did not get married and she went on a streak doing whatever (or anyone) she wanted lol after she got that out of her system she found the right guy and is now happily married (i think)

Water under the bridge. No hate involved. I have a college degree now with a great job and she works at a grocery store or something now. I think the difference in our decisions have spoken for themselves. I have the majority of what I want in my life at this moment, and hopefully she has what she wants.

ya....i feel like i kinda need to do that.....but what if i never stop XD

Then the relationship was never right for you to begin with.

+1

but I'm 23 though. I definitely agree on the immature part. I see a lot of girls who are immature and it's just a turn off for me.

Pretty sad. I bumped into at least 4 girls in the past couple of weeks who told me their recent dbag ex bf stories, and 2 of them have a kid.

#1 The youngest one. Guy wasn't so nice to her and he tried too hard to get lucky with her in the car. After a few days of hanging out he busted out those 3 words. She dropped him. (No kid)
#2 Some random girl I met who is close to my age and told me about the past couple of abusive relationships. She's battered. She almost had a kid.
#3 A friend of mine who went through a lot last year. Got preggo, but the guy she was with pretty much continued cheating on her. He makes no effort for the baby and makes lots of empty promises. She also found out he had another kid with someone else. SMH.
#4 A old friend who went through a similar ordeal. Difference here is that he owns up to it and at least spends time with his child.

I asked them one question, and their jaws dropped. I said "So are these the guys who are super charming when you first meet them, and completely change when they get what they wanted?" All said "Yes!"

Imagine that.. but they continue to fall for the same bulls***.

Not judging or anything. Don't kid yourself, of course you're going to be attracted to other women. Every guy does, even when they're in a happy relationship. The difference between a douche and a man is self control.

It's okay to feel hesitant towards marriage, but after 5 years, you should know already. At the very least, you should have thought about the possibility. It's a waste of your time and hers if that's what she wants. If you're still numbering your girls and feel trapped, you're not ready for marriage. It's not looking good if you're still talking to other girls. You'd be starting a marriage with lies and that always ends in a mess. If you want to be with someone else, be with someone else. Your girlfriend deserves a guy she can trust. Would you feel okay if she was talking to some other dude with larger junk for example? Just say'n.

I guess my point is, whatever you do, don't cheat. You'll end up without a gf or end up with the girl that will always think you'll cheat on her...or you end up alone.

My buddy messaged me about this the other day. He got engaged to his gf of 7 years in Nov, and they're about to tie the knot this summer. He told me about the hot girls at the gym, and how tempting it is. I told him it's "God" testing him. His fiancee is great, and it's not worth risking all of that for one night with a "hot" girl.

Anyhow, KC trip was fun. I'm starting to learn to really stay cool and make friends with whoever. It's unfortunate what some of these girls went through. They're so fun to talk to, outgoing, and easy on the eyes... but has baggage. (Ha!)