Im a bit confused...

rreign · 07-27-2009, 01:16 PM

I agree with Frost on this one. He couldn't have said it more perfect than "we need a good house cleaning" Let's be real, it's in our nature to destroy ourselves and everything in our paths. We are parasites on this earth and eventually we WILL finally finish the job that we have already started and destroy it. I'm gonna live my life to it's fullest while I can, so screw dying for thousands that are gonna destroy themselves anyway.

awesomez · 07-27-2009, 02:16 PM

This question is really the same as have you ever loved anybody more than yourself. If you have, there is a good chance that you would die for that person and therefore you'd do it. Don't get me wrong there is a decent amount from the 6 billion that the earth could do without, heck some of you are on this form right now

but it's very unrealistic and it's not going to happen so it's ok to lie too.

To answer your question, yes, I have loved someone else more then myself.

StLRedrider · 07-27-2009, 10:33 PM

Your right dad i forgot about my bloodhounds!!!!!!!!!

AARC51 · 07-27-2009, 10:40 PM

Saying and doing are two VERY different things. Actually I would be willing to bet that the percentage of people that say "I don't know" and would actually do it would likely be higher than the percentage of people who say "Yes" and would actually do it.

dad · 07-27-2009, 10:44 PM

Sacrificial suicide is against the law!

StLRedrider · 07-27-2009, 10:45 PM

Don't drink the kool aid

sloterg · 07-28-2009, 11:02 AM

For me its a rather complicated issue that i have thought about since the thought of death came to mind many many years ago. I saw how ppl would put their life on the line for faith, family, or something dear to them and i admired them for it. I think it would be hard to give up ur own life if you dont feel anything else in the world is of equal importance to ur life, thats why I totally agree that if you have loved something more than you love yourself you would understand that if the opportunity came to decide their life lost or urs, more than likely ull choose ur life lost. I get it from ppl all the time that tell me i made a mistake joining the army and that i dont know what im fighting for , etc. but for me it became very simple. I'd rather deploy and suffer physically and see things that would damage me mentally than to have any of my family that i care about see it personally, meaning id rather help keep the fight over there than let it spread to our own backyard. I know im only one person and i alone cant end wars but knowing that im putting in effort towards it is good enough for me. That's why for me the answer is simple, yes i would, in a heartbeat give my life to save the world.

rreign · 07-28-2009, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by sloterg

For me its a rather complicated issue that i have thought about since the thought of death came to mind many many years ago. I saw how ppl would put their life on the line for faith, family, or something dear to them and i admired them for it. I think it would be hard to give up ur own life if you dont feel anything else in the world is of equal importance to ur life, thats why I totally agree that if you have loved something more than you love yourself you would understand that if the opportunity came to decide their life lost or urs, more than likely ull choose ur life lost. I get it from ppl all the time that tell me i made a mistake joining the army and that i dont know what im fighting for , etc. but for me it became very simple. I'd rather deploy and suffer physically and see things that would damage me mentally than to have any of my family that i care about see it personally, meaning id rather help keep the fight over there than let it spread to our own backyard. That's why for me the answer is simple, yes i would, in a heartbeat give my life to save many others.

See, you have to take a step back and analyze this statement. I'm an infantry Marine and have personally "been there, done that" so to speak. This statement has nothing to do with giving you life to save mankind. Rather it's a statement that I have personally made many times. I don't fight for everyone over here in the US or anywhere else for that matter. I fight for only the people that are fighting beside me and to make it back to my family.

So in short, you wouldn't die for mankind either. Just the people that are directly in your life that you care for and love.

sloterg · 07-29-2009, 10:06 AM

well see its the big picture ur not seeing.. if i have to save mankind to keep the ppl i love alive then ill do it.. i shoulda said that in the begining.. and i understand and i know what u mean about fighting for the ppl beside u cuz i would do the same too i guess its just the way i phrased everything that might have made it unclear

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dad Grand Prix of Endurance Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Tennessee Posts: 3,476 Drives: Mulsanne Straight Rep Power: 26	Sacrificial suicide is against the law! __________________ We can do without any article of luxury we have never had; but once obtained, it is not in human nature to surrender it voluntary.

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07-27-2009, 01:16 PM	#1 (permalink)
rreign A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: South Carolina Age: 41 Posts: 2,341 Drives: 03 Evo 8 Rep Power: 710	I agree with Frost on this one. He couldn't have said it more perfect than "we need a good house cleaning" Let's be real, it's in our nature to destroy ourselves and everything in our paths. We are parasites on this earth and eventually we WILL finally finish the job that we have already started and destroy it. I'm gonna live my life to it's fullest while I can, so screw dying for thousands that are gonna destroy themselves anyway.

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awesomez Base Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: VA Posts: 199 Drives: 09 370Z Touring 7AT Rep Power: 17	This question is really the same as have you ever loved anybody more than yourself. If you have, there is a good chance that you would die for that person and therefore you'd do it. Don't get me wrong there is a decent amount from the 6 billion that the earth could do without, heck some of you are on this form right now but it's very unrealistic and it's not going to happen so it's ok to lie too. To answer your question, yes, I have loved someone else more then myself.

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