Anyone here into firearms?

haggomyeggo · 03-17-2011, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Isamu

we used to get el presidente at DM, and the SS types would use our hanger, along with the Presidential support staff.. they had sigs.. i was

'in

The Secret Service does not use the Five SeveNs but yes they use Sig Sauer .45 or 357 mag Formerly they used a .357 mag revolver

they also use the P90 after changing from the Israeli made Uzis
a book by a former agent talked about how he hated the Uzis and how they would jam all the time during practice. I also always thought the Uzi was kind of a spray and pray weapon instead of an accurate weapon.

Most federal agencies use the Sigs now except the FBI and US Marshals who still use the Glocks

Which is why I wonder why the military still uses the M9 Beretta 9mm as their sidearm and not the Sigs
im sure it has something to do with politics.....

m4a1mustang · 03-17-2011, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by haggomyeggo

Which is why I wonder why the military still uses the M9 Beretta 9mm as their sidearm and not the Sigs
im sure it has something to do with politics.....

Not sure, but I do quite like the 92FS.

haggomyeggo · 03-17-2011, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

Not sure, but I do quite like the 92FS.

I just liked the Sigs better. Seemed smoother to me. But I agree the 92 is a good gun and I thought i was a little easier to break down and clean. That could have something to do with it too i guess. Dont need something complicated while in the battlefield

dad · 03-17-2011, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

Not sure, but I do quite like the 92FS.

I would not buy one. I wouldn't want anyone to buy one! They may have corrected the error/failure. Maybe that's why it's the FS now, and no longer an F! The thought of a slide breaking off, and being catapulted into my face at over 1000 feet a second. Facial fractures and broken teeth, that's going to hurt!
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Isamu · 03-17-2011, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by dad

I would not buy one. I wouldn't want anyone to buy one! They may have corrected the error/failure. Maybe that's why it's the FS now, and no longer an F! The thought of a slide breaking off, and being catapulted into my face at over 1000 feet a second. Facial fractures and broken teeth, that's going to hurt!
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sir, please tell me your opinion on the HK P30L...
it's between that, and the P220 first....

m4a1mustang · 03-17-2011, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by dad

I would not buy one. I wouldn't want anyone to buy one! They may have corrected the error/failure. Maybe that's why it's the FS now, and no longer an F! The thought of a slide breaking off, and being catapulted into my face at over 1000 feet a second. Facial fractures and broken teeth, that's going to hurt!
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IIRC the FS model did correct the rare slide failures on the previous models, but I guess that's definitely something that would always concern me.

One of the main reasons why I don't want to shoot our old Mauser 93... I've heard stories about them blowing up in the shooters face because of poor metallurgy.

dad · 03-17-2011, 02:49 PM

Mauser 93, I wonder how much that is worth? I don't know a whole lot on rifles, but that is one old rifle!

Isamu · 03-17-2011, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by haggomyeggo

The Secret Service does not use the Five SeveNs but yes they use Sig Sauer .45 or 357 mag Formerly they used a .357 mag revolver

they also use the P90 after changing from the Israeli made Uzis
a book by a former agent talked about how he hated the Uzis and how they would jam all the time during practice. I also always thought the Uzi was kind of a spray and pray weapon instead of an accurate weapon.

Most federal agencies use the Sigs now except the FBI and US Marshals who still use the Glocks

Which is why I wonder why the military still uses the M9 Beretta 9mm as their sidearm and not the Sigs
im sure it has something to do with politics.....

SOME of the military still uses the M9, others use sigs...
Most of the PJ's carried M9s but a few had Sigs.. the seals use sigs, force recon uses Sigs.. hell the Coast guard just placed an order for 10,000 Sigs.. lol
and yes, P90 > Uzi.. never fired a full auto P90, but I have held one, and they are really nice..

Red__Zed · 03-17-2011, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by haggomyeggo

The Secret Service does not use the Five SeveNs but yes they use Sig Sauer .45 or 357 mag Formerly they used a .357 mag revolver

they also use the P90 after changing from the Israeli made Uzis
a book by a former agent talked about how he hated the Uzis and how they would jam all the time during practice. I also always thought the Uzi was kind of a spray and pray weapon instead of an accurate weapon.

Most federal agencies use the Sigs now except the FBI and US Marshals who still use the Glocks

Which is why I wonder why the military still uses the M9 Beretta 9mm as their sidearm and not the Sigs
im sure it has something to do with politics.....

They generally arrange fairly long term contracts for weapons. Winning a bid usually means you are the supplier for at least 10 or so years.

dad · 03-17-2011, 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by haggomyeggo

The Secret Service does not use the Five SeveNs but yes they use Sig Sauer .45 or 357 mag Formerly they used a .357 mag revolver

they also use the P90 after changing from the Israeli made Uzis
a book by a former agent talked about how he hated the Uzis and how they would jam all the time during practice. I also always thought the Uzi was kind of a spray and pray weapon instead of an accurate weapon.

Most federal agencies use the Sigs now except the FBI and US Marshals who still use the Glocks

Which is why I wonder why the military still uses the M9 Beretta 9mm as their sidearm and not the Sigs
im sure it has something to do with politics.....

Speaking of FBI, and 9mm.....
1986 FBI Miami shootout - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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dad Grand Prix of Endurance Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Tennessee Posts: 3,476 Drives: Mulsanne Straight Rep Power: 27	Mauser 93, I wonder how much that is worth? I don't know a whole lot on rifles, but that is one old rifle! __________________ We can do without any article of luxury we have never had; but once obtained, it is not in human nature to surrender it voluntary.

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