Anyone here into firearms?

VABAM · 04-25-2020, 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by jwick

For those VA folks. Can you give me the quick run down on conceal carry laws? Texas has reciprocity with VA and just curious if there are any weird laws. Also is there a mag size limit?

VA has pretty standard carry laws, no weird laws yet. With Bloomberg's butt buddy Northam in charge and the Dems majority we have been fortunate nothing too bad has been passed yet. The only thing of concern at the moment it the possibility of a law that would allow cities and counties to pass their own regulations that can be stricter than state law. Fortunately Northam kicked it back to the House/Senate for changes we'll see what happens there. WRT round count, the cap is 20 per mag for certain jurisdictions unless you have a CHP. Also can't carry a pistol that can accept a silencer, unless you have a CHP.

For conceal carry laws the USCCA is a great resource. They tend to have the most up to date info (VA was updated 4-20-2020) and they make it easy to understand. I have the web address for their reciprocity and law map saved on all my devices for quick reference.

USCCA CCW Reciprocity Map

Go over the info on USCCA and if you have any questions don't hesitate to ask!

VABAM · 04-25-2020, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by jwick

For those VA folks. Can you give me the quick run down on conceal carry laws? Texas has reciprocity with VA and just curious if there are any weird laws. Also is there a mag size limit?

I guess you're going to be in VA at some point. Where are you heading? BE WARNED, if you didn't know already VA speeding laws are some of, if not the worst, in the country. Definitely keep it under 20 over and under 80 unless you like massive fines and the possibility to going straight to jail. Keep it to 10 over, don't be the fastest car, and don't drive like a douche and you'll be fine. However VA State Troopers have been known to pick on out of staters especially ones with modified/loud cars. Also the use of radar/laser detectors are prohibited. You can have a detector in your car just you can't be using it and don't have it in reach.

jwick · 04-25-2020, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by VABAM

I guess you're going to be in VA at some point. Where are you heading? BE WARNED, if you didn't know already VA speeding laws are some of, if not the worst, in the country. Definitely keep it under 20 over and under 80 unless you like massive fines and the possibility to going straight to jail. Keep it to 10 over, don't be the fastest car, and don't drive like a douche and you'll be fine. However VA State Troopers have been known to pick on out of staters especially ones with modified/loud cars. Also the use of radar/laser detectors are prohibited. You can have a detector in your car just you can't be using it and don't have it in reach.

My in-laws live there and we visit them every summer, so I’m familiar with the traffic laws. I’m only going to be in VA for about 10 miles of our trip. They live on the NC/VA border. I’m not really concerned with actually carrying, but I don’t want to drive halfway across the country without a way to protect my family. Normally we fly, but with this Covid BS we are likely to drive this year.

jwick · 04-25-2020, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by VABAM

VA has pretty standard carry laws, no weird laws yet. With Bloomberg's butt buddy Northam in charge and the Dems majority we have been fortunate nothing too bad has been passed yet. The only thing of concern at the moment it the possibility of a law that would allow cities and counties to pass their own regulations that can be stricter than state law. Fortunately Northam kicked it back to the House/Senate for changes we'll see what happens there. WRT round count, the cap is 20 per mag for certain jurisdictions unless you have a CHP. Also can't carry a pistol that can accept a silencer, unless you have a CHP.

For conceal carry laws the USCCA is a great resource. They tend to have the most up to date info (VA was updated 4-20-2020) and they make it easy to understand. I have the web address for their reciprocity and law map saved on all my devices for quick reference.

USCCA CCW Reciprocity Map

Go over the info on USCCA and if you have any questions don't hesitate to ask!

Thanks for the link. If I do carry in these other states I’ll have to familiarize myself with signage requirements. Texas is black and white. If the actual wording of the law is not placed visibly in 1” block letters at the entrance in both English and Spanish, then it doesn’t apply.

bunk · 04-26-2020, 08:38 AM

Here is the ruling from Judge Benitez regarding the Ammo background check in California. He pretty much destroyed the law as written by using....surprise... common sense. Hopefully they wont put a stay on this ruling while it goes through appeals.

https://michellawyers.com/wp-content...anting-MPI.pdf.

If anyone is familiar with the law process, please correct me in my understanding of the appeals.
1. California can take it up to the 9th circuit
2. In the 9th ckt, it goes through a 3 judge panel to review Judge Benitez decision

At this point, what would determine the case to go to an 11 judge panel? Also, if it goes to the 11 judges, their decision becomes law for all states that fall under the 9th circuit courts jurisdiction. Does this go both ways? If they decide to uphold the ammo background check will it apply to the other states as well?

BettyZ · 04-26-2020, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by bunk

Here is the ruling from Judge Benitez regarding the Ammo background check in California. He pretty much destroyed the law as written by using....surprise... common sense. Hopefully they wont put a stay on this ruling while it goes through appeals.

https://michellawyers.com/wp-content...anting-MPI.pdf.

If anyone is familiar with the law process, please correct me in my understanding of the appeals.

1. California can take it up to the 9th circuit

2. In the 9th ckt, it goes through a 3 judge panel to review Judge Benitez decision

At this point, what would determine the case to go to an 11 judge panel? Also, if it goes to the 11 judges, their decision becomes law for all states that fall under the 9th circuit courts jurisdiction. Does this go both ways? If they decide to uphold the ammo background check will it apply to the other states as well?

If CA appeals the preliminary injunction and loses, they can appeal again for an en banc hearing in front of 11 appellate judges of the 9th Circuit. Same goes for if the plaintiffs lose in the 3 judge panel. The 9th can decide not to re-hear the case. Alternatively they can hear it and rule either way.

Regardless of which way the ruling goes, it will not be "law". The motion at hand was for a preliminary injunction to prevent the state from enforcing this law, due to the likelihood of immediate and irreparable injury to the plaintiffs, until the case can be heard on the merits and a ruling made on the constitutionality of the law.

Regardless of how the case goes, it will only apply to CA. However, it will become case law and thus dispositive in any future suits regarding future laws of the same nature passed by other states in the 9th Circuit.

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bunk · 04-26-2020, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by BettyZ

If CA appeals the preliminary injunction and loses, they can appeal again for an en banc hearing in front of 11 appellate judges of the 9th Circuit. Same goes for if the plaintiffs lose in the 3 judge panel. The 9th can decide not to re-hear the case. Alternatively they can hear it and rule either way.

Regardless of which way the ruling goes, it will not be "law". The motion at hand was for a preliminary injunction to prevent the state from enforcing this law, due to the likelihood of immediate and irreparable injury to the plaintiffs, until the case can be hear on the merits and a ruling made on the constitutionality of the law.

Regardless of how the case goes, it will only apply to CA. However, it will become case law and thus dispositive in any future suits regarding future laws of the same nature passed by other states in the 9th Circuit.

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Thank you for clearing that up sir!

Immediate and irreparable injury to the plaintifs...
Theres a section in Judge Benitez's ruling that mentions "injury" to the plaintiffs. Makes sense.

BettyZ · 04-26-2020, 10:22 AM

These tags tho

bunk · 04-26-2020, 10:23 AM

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These tags tho

For some mysterious reason, he shows up in the tags on random threads... kinda like crop circles.

VABAM · 04-29-2020, 06:47 PM

Something to talk about.

What do you guys think of the IWI Tavor TS12 shotgun?

I love bullpups, big fan of the Tavor rifles, and this is the first bullpup shot gun I'm excited about. Initially I didn't like it but now after seeing it in action I'm liking it a lot.

Ghostvette · 04-30-2020, 06:43 PM

Rusty, do you load for 44 Mag? I've got some brass here I'll bring with me in July.

Rusty · 04-30-2020, 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Ghostvette

Rusty, do you load for 44 Mag? I've got some brass here I'll bring with me in July.

What kind of bullets you want. Jacketed, you supply. I have cast with gas checks. 225gr and 240gr SWC's. I drive these as hard as a jacketed bullet without leading the barrel.

The gas check makes a big difference.

bunk · 05-01-2020, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by VABAM

Something to talk about.

What do you guys think of the IWI Tavor TS12 shotgun?

I love bullpups, big fan of the Tavor rifles, and this is the first bullpup shot gun I'm excited about. Initially I didn't like it but now after seeing it in action I'm liking it a lot.

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Interesting magazine system. Looks heavy and bulky though

Ghostvette · 05-01-2020, 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Rusty

What kind of bullets you want. Jacketed, you supply. I have cast with gas checks. 225gr and 240gr SWC's. I drive these as hard as a jacketed bullet without leading the barrel.

The gas check makes a big difference.

I don't have a 44 Mag, so this is extra brass that I want to send to a good home. I've got some other odd ball (stuff I don't own a firearm in) that I want to give to someone that needs it.

Off the top of my head:

35 Remington
32 ACP
25 ACP (maybe)

I'll compile a list of caliber & quantity. I also have some factory 270 that the previous owner of the house left.

Rusty · 05-01-2020, 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Ghostvette

I don't have a 44 Mag, so this is extra brass that I want to send to a good home. I've got some other odd ball (stuff I don't own a firearm in) that I want to give to someone that needs it.

Off the top of my head:

35 Remington
32 ACP
25 ACP (maybe)

I'll compile a list of caliber & quantity. I also have some factory 270 that the previous owner of the house left.

I have 2 Raven 25 ACP's. There were my mom and dad's pistols.

I got a chit load of odd ball stuff too that I didn't have any guns for.

04-26-2020, 08:38 AM	#5570 (permalink)
bunk A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2018 Location: Southern California Posts: 4,077 Drives: 2010 370z Roadster Rep Power: 2684369	Here is the ruling from Judge Benitez regarding the Ammo background check in California. He pretty much destroyed the law as written by using....surprise... common sense. Hopefully they wont put a stay on this ruling while it goes through appeals. https://michellawyers.com/wp-content...anting-MPI.pdf. If anyone is familiar with the law process, please correct me in my understanding of the appeals. 1. California can take it up to the 9th circuit 2. In the 9th ckt, it goes through a 3 judge panel to review Judge Benitez decision At this point, what would determine the case to go to an 11 judge panel? Also, if it goes to the 11 judges, their decision becomes law for all states that fall under the 9th circuit courts jurisdiction. Does this go both ways? If they decide to uphold the ammo background check will it apply to the other states as well? VABAM and BettyZ like this. __________________ -Drop in K&N Filter -Invidia Gemini CBE -Z1 Oil Cooler -Swift Springs - EcuTek -Forgestar F14 -SPL Camber Links -Akebono BBK Upgrade -Z1 Premium SS Lines -SPL Diff Bushings -SPL FUCAs - BellRaceworks Diff Brace

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