Anyone here into firearms?

SgtGoldy · 06-08-2017, 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by DeliriousClam

I know about aiming for body mass. I just felt like doing that. I'm noticing I can't keep the pistol still while aiming though. That something that I'll just have to get used to?

Cyborg arms

Ghostvette · 06-08-2017, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by DeliriousClam

I know about aiming for body mass. I just felt like doing that. I'm noticing I can't keep the pistol still while aiming though. That something that I'll just have to get used to?

From what I've seen, that comes from two factors, upper body strength and relaxation. A couple of things that work for me, don't grip the pistol real tight and you have to relax. If you try and squeeze the pistol real tight to stop the movement, you wind up creating movement because the arms and shoulders tense up, causing movement, which creates a never-ending cycle. A firm grip and keep the body relaxed will improve your shooting.

Most of us have several thousand rounds of practice under our belts, you aren't going to shoot like Rob Pincus, Steve Reichert or Rob Leatham your first few times (Google the names, you'll understand). It takes time to develop what feels right and for your shooting to improve. If possible, take a course in basic pistol, how to hold, how to aim, in other words, the basics. You'll get there.

The most important thing: HAVE FUN!!!!!

SgtGoldy · 06-08-2017, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Ghostvette

From what I've seen, that comes from two factors, upper body strength and relaxation. A couple of things that work for me, don't grip the pistol real tight and you have to relax. If you try and squeeze the pistol real tight to stop the movement, you wind up creating movement because the arms and shoulders tense up, causing movement, which creates a never-ending cycle. A firm grip and keep the body relaxed will improve your shooting.

Most of us have several thousand rounds of practice under our belts, you aren't going to shoot like Rob Pincus, Steve Reichert or Rob Leatham your first few times (Google the names, you'll understand). It takes time to develop what feels right and for your shooting to improve. If possible, take a course in basic pistol, how to hold, how to aim, in other words, the basics. You'll get there.

The most important thing: HAVE FUN!!!!!

Completely agree, whenever I find myself off target its due to trying to compensate for recoil or gripping too tightly. I usually put the gun down for a second, stretch my hands and relax when I pick it up again. Like magic my shots are grouping again with steady hands.

SouthArk370Z · 06-08-2017, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by DeliriousClam

... I'm noticing I can't keep the pistol still while aiming though. That something that I'll just have to get used to?

Some people, myself included, can have a difficult time holding anything as heavy as a gun steady - especially with arms fully extended. With a heavy rifle, I'd be lucky to hit the broad side of a barn at 100 yds without a bipod, sled, or some other means of support. I've heard that shoulder/upper-body exercises will help.

A different stance may help. Should be plenty of info on the Web. Ask your fellow shooters at the range for tips.

Have fun and don't worry about being an expert after a few dozen rounds - hold any of those targets up to your chest and, if you don't panic, you have enough accuracy for home defense distances.

Hotrodz · 06-08-2017, 05:04 PM

Most of training for officers revolves around target at 3 to 9 yards because the majority of all shootings happen with in these distance. Rarely will you here or see shoot out with great distance between shooters.

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jwick · 06-08-2017, 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Hotrodz

Most of training for officers revolves around target at 3 to 9 yards because the majority of all shootings happen with in these distance. Rarely will you here or see shoot out with great distance between shooters.

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That's when you need to be good at close combat knife tactics.

OldGrayDog · 06-08-2017, 06:24 PM

So first as other said take your time, you hit paper and you are alive. Not bad results for first time. Practice and take some classes.

For the rifle.. learn to use the sling for support. You will always be glad you did.
http://http://www.luckygunner.com/lo...a-rifle-sling/

Rusty · 06-08-2017, 06:43 PM

A good easy shoulder exercise is to take a 5 lb dumb bell in each hand. Start by holding them straight down. Swing straight out level with your shoulders with out bending your elbows. And hold for for a count of ten. Repeat 10 tens. As you get stronger. Hold longer, and a higher rep.

For the wrists. Get a piece of pipe long enough that you can with both hands. Tie about 4ft length of string to it. On the other end of the string. Tie a 1 lb weight to it. Hold the pipe straight from you shoulders. On twist the pipe to pull the weight up. Once to the top. Untwist the pipe to lower the weight. Repeat 10 time. Once you get stronger. Increase the weight and number of times.

SouthArk370Z · 06-08-2017, 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by OldGrayDog

... For the rifle.. learn to use the sling for support. You will always be glad you did.
http://http://www.luckygunner.com/lo...a-rifle-sling/

Interesting article but your link is broken. Try this: http://www.luckygunner.com/lounge/ho...a-rifle-sling/

I'll have to try this. I have slings on several of my guns but have only used them for carrying. Thanks.

DeliriousClam · 06-08-2017, 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by OldGrayDog

So first as other said take your time, you hit paper and you are alive. Not bad results for first time. Practice and take some classes.

For the rifle.. learn to use the sling for support. You will always be glad you did.
http://http://www.luckygunner.com/lo...a-rifle-sling/

My friend's Ruger 557 that I was using didn't have a sling.

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Originally Posted by SouthArk370Z

Interesting article but your link is broken. Try this: http://www.luckygunner.com/lounge/ho...a-rifle-sling/

I'll have to try this. I have slings on several of my guns but have only used them for carrying. Thanks.

Yeah I gotta check this out. But I'm still trying to decide on which ******* AR to get for around $700 +/- $50

OldGrayDog · 06-08-2017, 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by SouthArk370Z

Interesting article but your link is broken. Try this: http://www.luckygunner.com/lounge/ho...a-rifle-sling/

I'll have to try this. I have slings on several of my guns but have only used them for carrying. Thanks.

Sorry for broken link , I was taught using slings as part of getting a stable "shooting platform" when young (yes I was young once). It was part of marksmanship training at schools rifle club, taught by aftc instructor. Took son to Appleseed event , they teach same technique same reasons. https://appleseedinfo.org/programs/
Spend a weekend you will shoot better.

Pistol I was taught single hand bullseye, only much later did I try tactical stances.

Rusty · 06-08-2017, 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Hotrodz

Most of training for officers revolves around target at 3 to 9 yards because the majority of all shootings happen with in these distance. Rarely will you here or see shoot out with great distance between shooters.

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Think the stats are something like less then 7 yards, less then 7 shots, and about 3 seconds per shooting.

Ghostvette · 06-08-2017, 10:54 PM

Clam... more info for the brain.

Two Mistakes Rookies Make In Handgun Shooting

DeliriousClam · 06-09-2017, 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Ghostvette

Clam... more info for the brain.

Two Mistakes Rookies Make In Handgun Shooting

That was a great read actually. It's probably going to take time more than anything to get to the level I want to be at

DeliriousClam · 06-09-2017, 07:57 PM

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Rusty Ronin Samurai - Assassin Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Fayettenam,Pennsyltucky Age: 69 Posts: 35,505 Drives: 2011 Nismo GM 6M Rep Power: 2684439	A good easy shoulder exercise is to take a 5 lb dumb bell in each hand. Start by holding them straight down. Swing straight out level with your shoulders with out bending your elbows. And hold for for a count of ten. Repeat 10 tens. As you get stronger. Hold longer, and a higher rep. For the wrists. Get a piece of pipe long enough that you can with both hands. Tie about 4ft length of string to it. On the other end of the string. Tie a 1 lb weight to it. Hold the pipe straight from you shoulders. On twist the pipe to pull the weight up. Once to the top. Untwist the pipe to lower the weight. Repeat 10 time. Once you get stronger. Increase the weight and number of times. __________________ 浪人 - 殺し屋 "The Difficult Anytime, The Impossible By Appointment Only" http://www.the370z.com/members-370z-...o-journal.html

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OldGrayDog Base Member Join Date: Jan 2017 Location: Pa VF Posts: 108 Drives: 14 370z at7 GM Rep Power: 598	So first as other said take your time, you hit paper and you are alive. Not bad results for first time. Practice and take some classes. For the rifle.. learn to use the sling for support. You will always be glad you did. http://http://www.luckygunner.com/lo...a-rifle-sling/