Anyone here into firearms?

synolimit · 05-08-2014, 07:38 AM

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Originally Posted by MacCool

I know a guy with a HiPoint 9mm that has had no problems. I know a couple of guys with DPMS rifles that run reliably. I even know a guy with a Rock River Arms rifle that works fine. Amazing things happen on a one-off basis in manufacturing that defy the apparent odds. Every company can make a good individual pistol every now and then on any given day, just as any of of them can make a bad one. The question is....what is the liklihood? When companies pay less attention to their quality control, when they start using MIM parts farmed out to the lowest bidder, when they start trying to save money by cutting corners in the manufacturing process...the liklihood drops. In this thread, we have at least two guys who got lucky. I'm pleased for you. I personally wouldn't buy a modern Sig because I perceive that the odds aren't good enough to risk it. I can see how your opinion would be different.

I see what you're saying and I've seen issues with some rifles. I've never seen or experienced a sig hand gun problem though!! I'd trust my sp2022 over many many others!!

MacCool · 05-08-2014, 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by synolimit

I see what you're saying and I've seen issues with some rifles. I've never seen or experienced a sig hand gun problem though!! I'd trust my sp2022 over many many others!!

I think that one's history with a specific gun is far more important than the reputation of the brand. If you read the internet gun forums, you'd assume that Glock must make a completely reliable firearm. My Glock 19 had serious ejection problems. It was not reliable (happens to be a recurring theme with Glock these days, but that's another issue). The converse is also true. The brand itself can have issues, but if your gun works well, that's the important thing.

Most of the guys that I know, these days now that people carry firearms more than they used to and given the number of cops that I hang around with and shoot with, will usually never carry a gun of any brand for self defense unless they have a few hundred rounds through that specific gun so that its reliability can be determined. Man, it never used to be that way. Used to be...you bought a Sig, or a S&W, or a Beretta and you could just bet your life that it was going to be reliable enough to trust your life with. Now...not so much.

synolimit · 05-08-2014, 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by MacCool

I think that one's history with a specific gun is far more important than the reputation of the brand. If you read the internet gun forums, you'd assume that Glock must make a completely reliable firearm. My Glock 19 had serious ejection problems. It was not reliable (happens to be a recurring theme with Glock these days, but that's another issue). The converse is also true. The brand itself can have issues, but if your gun works well, that's the important thing.

Most of the guys that I know, these days now that people carry firearms more than they used to and given the number of cops that I hang around with and shoot with, will usually never carry a gun of any brand for self defense unless they have a few hundred rounds through that specific gun so that its reliability can be determined. Man, it never used to be that way. Used to be...you bought a Sig, or a S&W, or a Beretta and you could just bet your life that it was going to be reliable enough to trust your life with. Now...not so much.

Interesting. Well for glock since 04 my duty weapon had thousands and thousands of rounds without one single issue. I shoot better with it too! I just love my sig.

Limeybastard · 05-08-2014, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by synolimit

I see what you're saying and I've seen issues with some rifles. I've never seen or experienced a sig hand gun problem though!! I'd trust my sp2022 over many many others!!

I bought an SP2022 9mm a year ago, all I can say its very underated. French cops cant be wrong to use this as their side arm!

Also, have a P226 made in W Germany dated 1989. These are the only two Sigs that I have in my stash.

Chuck33079 · 05-08-2014, 10:49 AM

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French cops cant be wrong to use this as their side arm!

Do French cops actually use their sidearms, or just drop them and put their hands up?

MacCool · 05-08-2014, 11:20 AM

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Also, have a P226 made in W Germany dated 1989. These are the only two Sigs that I have in my stash.

My P229 I bought in 96 or 97. The frame is made in Germany, the SS slide was made in the US. It's a great handgun. Accurate and reliable with a very good trigger. In all the years I've had it I've never had a broken part. I've replaced recoil springs once or twice. My issue with it is my current trend toward moving away from DA/SA firearms as well as moving away from .40 cal.