Anyone here into firearms?

Chuck33079

If I were only going to have one pistol, it would be either my G17 or 19. Reliable, cheap(ish), parts are cheap and everywhere. It's the iPod of guns. Sure, there are better options out there, but there's a reason it's the go-to. If you're going to end up with a collection, get whatever you want since firearms breed like rabbits apparently. Or, you could scrap the whole 9mm idea and go buy yourself a 1911. Every man should own at least one .45.

As far as the .22lr rifle, go get a used Ruger 10/22 and build it up. They're dirt cheap and easy to work on. I found my old one in my parents house years back. Literally kept nothing but the receiver. New stock, barrel, trigger, bolt, etc. Now the only problem is finding decent .22 ammo since the manufacturers gave up on it to make calibers people were stockpiling.

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Chuck33079

I've heard the same things about current Sig quality. I've had no issues with my P226 XFive, but that's a little different than the regular product line. It is so choice. If you have the means, I highly recommend picking one up. I've got a high-dollar Les Baer bullseye gun, and the Sig outshoots it handily.

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black_sedan

For $500 i would suggest the Smith & Wesson M&P 9mm, add the Apex Tactical 3.5# trigger and you'll have a very reliable shooter. I have probably put 5k rounds through mine without an issue. If its a carry gun, I would leave the trigger at stock weight.

In your price range, you cant go wrong with the M&P, Glock or Springfield XD/XDM, its just preference.

Chuck33079

I love my my M&P compact. It's great. I have the Apex trigger but I haven't put it in yet. With a mini flashlight and Crimson Trace grip it's a great concealed/car pistol.

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MacCool

I have an M&P 9L. After I put an Apex DCAEK in it to give it a reasonable trigger, and a hand-fitted Storm Lake barrel to correct its accuracy problems (earlier M&Ps were known for poor or inconsistent lock-up) it's at least a functional pistol. Clearly inferior to the PPQ, but it's functional and accurate now. It does auto-forward about 85% of the time on magazine insertion. Not really an issue, but I wish it would either do it 100% of the time, or 0%. Generally, M&Ps are fairly highly regarded these days. Reportedly their quality and consistency has improved since I bought mine several years ago, according to Louis Awerbuck at the last pistol course I took in August. My decision to try a Walther PPQ two years ago was on the advice of Larry Vickers, who is very enthusiastic about that pistol. It was great advice for me. He also advised against current 9mm Glocks (Gen 3 and Gen 4), advice which I ignored but later found to be absolutely correct.


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black_sedan

I use the M&P for USCA 2 gun and USPSA matches so I like that the glocks and M&P have lots of accessories and mags available. I have heard issues with earlier productions needing the barrels replaced, but mine is a 2012 model and it seems to be pretty accurate when I dont throw my shots off.

The PPQ is a nice pistol and has a good trigger out of the box. Very similar to the HK p30 but cheaper.

What issues have you seen with the Gen3/4 glocks? I've been eyeing a gen4 G19 to replace my gen2.

If I had the coin, I'd love to take one of the Vickers courses. I highly recommend anyone that is into firearms to try a 2 gun or 3 gun competition. Its the most fun i've had outside of my z.

MacCool

Erratic ejection, especially brass-to-face. It's a pretty notorious issue with later versions of the Gen 3 and current Gen 4 Glocks in 9mm.

As to Vickers...I've taken a couple of courses from him. Wouldn't do it again...lots of good trainers out there at his level. He's not my favorite.

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tvfreakazoid

I had issues like that with my G4 g19 glock. I shipped it to the glock factory and so far i haven't had issues similar.
I will have to shot it rapid fire and c what happens then.
But i do have some erratic ejection occasionally.

What is up with larry vickers?

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H2O_Doc

Ugh. Tell me about it. My wife complains and complains "what about me, I want to finish too??!!"

JNews86

Never had that issue with mine.

Chuck33079

My G17L threw a casing right back at me, which bounced off the underside of my hat and lodged between the bridge of my nose and safety glasses. It took a major act of willpower to slowly put the pistol down and get it out.

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black_sedan

Ouch... I always tell the wife to wear a regular shirt when going to the range. She wore a tank top a few weeks back and got burned on the fun bags.

Tweek

Never had any issues with Sig either. My P226 Tacops is around 3 years old, and the only malfunction I've had with it was a single failure to feed when trying out my own "subsonic" handloads.

EDIT: Specifically the Tacops does indeed have issues in general. But that has to do with the not Mec-Gar made magazines, and not Sig itself per se.

MacCool

Well, that two people with no problems. Sigs must be good to go then....

synolimit

And people that don't own a USA sig and just hear things means they must be bad?

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