Anyone here into firearms?

Roo · 07-15-2009, 11:32 PM

I use to be a FFL but sold my business, I use to specialize in AR15s. I can no longer get lowers and entire firearms but I can get all accessories and upper receivers.... If your interested let me know, it'll be cheaper than anywhere else I promise you.

tvfreakazoid · 07-17-2009, 05:46 AM

I sent you a couple of pms

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Originally Posted by Roo

I use to be a FFL but sold my business, I use to specialize in AR15s. I can no longer get lowers and entire firearms but I can get all accessories and upper receivers.... If your interested let me know, it'll be cheaper than anywhere else I promise you.

dad · 07-22-2009, 01:01 PM

Senate rejects law on carrying concealed weapons
Senate turns down proposal to make permits valid despite differing laws

Foes said it would force states to honor laws in more gun-permissive states

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- The Senate narrowly rejected a measure to allow people to carry concealed weapons from state to state Wednesday.

A Miami, Florida, gun store offers concealed weapons training.

The vote was 58 to 39. The amendment needed 60 votes to pass.

The measure would have required each of the 48 states that allow concealed firearms to honor permits issued in other states.

It was the first significant defeat this year for the gun lobby.

The concealed weapons proposal was an amendment to a larger defense appropriations bill, introduced by Sen. John Thune, a South Dakota Republican.

Supporters of the measure argued it would help deter criminals; opponents claimed it would endanger innocent people by effectively forcing most of the country to conform to regulations in states with the loosest gun ownership standards.

Sen. John Barrasso, a Wyoming Republican who is a co-sponsor of the amendment, argued Wednesday that gun licenses should apply across state lines, like driver's licenses.

"People travel," he said on CNN's "American Morning."

"We have truck drivers on our roads, people traveling for vacation in their vehicles, and if you have a license... you should be able to use that license in other states. It should apply like a driver's license," he said.

He argued that concealed weapons deter crime.

But Republican Michael Bloomberg, the mayor of New York City and an opponent of the law, said the proposed amendment would trample on states' rights.

"Wyoming shouldn't be subject to New York state laws, and we're going in that direction," he said. "What's right for the people of Wyoming isn't necessarily right for the people of New York and vice versa."

Bloomberg insisted that guns do not make people safer.

"There's no evidence that if you have a gun, you're safer. Quite the contrary. If you have a gun at home, [you are] something like 20 times more likely to have somebody in your house killed," he said on "American Morning."

"We have to protect our policemen, protect our citizens. We can't have all these guns, and it's reasonable to have each state make their own laws," he said.

The issue has blurred Capitol Hill's usual partisan lines. Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, a Nevada Democrat, is one of several Southern and Western Democrats who supported the measure. Others Democrats opposed it.

Before this vote, gun control advocates faced a setback when President Obama signed a credit card bill that included a provision allowing people to carry guns in national parks

wstar · 07-22-2009, 01:30 PM

Too bad Bloomberg doesn't know the facts (re safety), but regardless, this should be passed, as it is just like the driver's license issue. Yes, driver's license reciprocity means that any state allows drivers from states with the most lax driving tests to drive. Most states don't really even have driving tests beyond what you do at age 16 when you first get your license anyways, and cars kill far more people than handguns in this country.

If they're really concerned about training standards for concealed carry reciprocity, they could simply add a measure to the bill stating minimum federal requirements for the concealed handgun standards and training in order to participate in the reciprocity.

Many concealed-carry states have already independently signed reciprocity agreements with each other anyways, just not all of them, and it's a huge, slow, bureaucratic mess getting every state to individually sign off with every other one.

What New York (and similar states, the very few of them there are) are more concerned about is that their version of concealed carry licensing is prohibitively restrictive. They generally don't issue them to anyone who isn't a judge, cop, ex-cop, or famous person, whereas states like TX are required by law to issue a license to anyone who meets all the basic requirements (which generally amount to not being a criminal or insane, taking some classroom instruction on gun safety issues, threat escalation, and criminal psychology, and passing a shooting proficiency test). So they don't want people bypassing their restrictive issuance of licenses by just going and getting licensed in another, more lenient state.

Again, this is easily remedied by amending the bill to only apply to states with "shall issue" -style carry licensing (meaning it's not up to the whim of a random person in power whether you get licensed or not, like NY is).

Still, we almost got it passed, only missed it by two votes. Fix one or both of those issues and get it through already, lazy-*** congress-critters.

dad · 07-23-2009, 12:27 PM

NRA warns senators Sotomayor vote will be rated

WASHINGTON – The National Rifle Association is warning senators that it will consider their votes on Supreme Court nominee Sonia Sotomayor as part of its influential annual ratings of lawmakers.

The NRA says President Barack Obama's first high court nominee has a hostile view of the Second Amendment right to keep and bear arms. It announced last week that it was opposing her nomination, although her confirmation in early August is virtually guaranteed.

Its promise Thursday to score the upcoming vote amounts to a threat to Republicans and conservative Democrats whose constituents are strong gun rights advocates. It comes one day after the gun lobby suffered a major loss in the Senate with defeat of a concealed weapon measure.

Roo · 07-27-2009, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by tvfreakazoid

I sent you a couple of pms

I don't have any

bullitt5897 · 07-26-2009, 12:57 AM

Ok sooo I was at the outdoor range today... Shooting my 6.8SPC 16" POF Piston Driven M4's and after getting home I took some pics! Also I have a video of a Headshot on a mannequin @ 700yds!!!! It took 12 rds to get it but none the less a head shot! lol I shot like 8 of the 12 rounds within 1" of the head with a 10x scope...

Enjoy...

Other Gun with 10x Nikon with BDC sight:

Plus I have my new ACOG coming this next week!!!! I am excited!!!

ZKindaGuy · 07-27-2009, 03:36 PM

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......Also I have a video of a Headshot on a mannequin @ 700yds!!!! It took 12 rds to get it but none the less a head shot! lol I shot like 8 of the 12 rounds within 1" of the head with a 10x scope...

The best-of-the-best shooters in the op-services hit the head shot at a mile and do it in a single attempt. And also these kinds of accomplishements are not something you want to be advertising on the public forums...this falls under the heading "to much information" if you catch my drift...

GMZ · 07-27-2009, 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by ZKindaGuy

The best-of-the-best shooters in the op-services hit the head shot at a mile and do it in a single attempt. And also these kinds of accomplishements are not something you want to be advertising on the public forums...this falls under the heading "to much information" if you catch my drift...

I agree with the intent on your post, but its easy to say that the mil guys can do X. Its easy to do anything when your paid to do it, and have deep pockets (that arent yours) with which to practice.

ZKindaGuy · 07-27-2009, 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by GMZ

I agree with the intent on your post, but its easy to say that the mil guys can do X. Its easy to do anything when your paid to do it, and have deep pockets (that arent yours) with which to practice.

I agree with what you are implying here. I just didn't want to end up hearing about some young kid who lets a few meaningless scores go to his head and ends up either being profiled or worse yet maybe letting the allure of that particular "dark-side" overcome his sensibility and he ends up getting "sorted out" because he involved himself into something that was way over his head of understanding.

tvfreakazoid · 07-28-2009, 05:04 AM

I hate reading in the paper where a young kid under 10 sometimes accidentally shooting there brother, sister, or father and killing them. Those are some crazy accidents. That's why people need to very, very responsible, especially with children or teens around.

MightyBobo · 07-27-2009, 01:21 AM

Nice bullitt - Ive got a free ACOG coming my way soon I hope

. Got my M3 upper just for it. Tired of iron sights

bullitt5897 · 07-27-2009, 11:52 AM

Nice Mighty! I wish mine was free but I did find a brand new TA31F 4x32 for a steal price!!! it cost me $949.99!!!! I mean thats hella cheap!!! I was tired of my iron sights too! shoot it was getting tuff for my 300yd shots... 100-200 was spot on but at 300 you loose the whole target to the iron sight

Sooo I got my ACOG

and I have a tactical shoot out on the 8th so I have to go sight it in this weekend!!!

Roo · 07-27-2009, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by bullitt5897

Nice Mighty! I wish mine was free but I did find a brand new TA31F 4x32 for a steal price!!! it cost me $949.99!!!! I mean thats hella cheap!!! I was tired of my iron sights too! shoot it was getting tuff for my 300yd shots... 100-200 was spot on but at 300 you loose the whole target to the iron sight

Sooo I got my ACOG

and I have a tactical shoot out on the 8th so I have to go sight it in this weekend!!!

I could have got you that ACOG for $900 shipped

rreign · 07-27-2009, 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bullitt5897

Ok sooo I was at the outdoor range today... Shooting my 6.8SPC 16" POF Piston Driven M4's and after getting home I took some pics! Also I have a video of a Headshot on a mannequin @ 700yds!!!! It took 12 rds to get it but none the less a head shot! lol I shot like 8 of the 12 rounds within 1" of the head with a 10x scope...

Not too shabby. I've made shots on target at 650yds w/ my M16 and iron sights before. Of course that's on a controlled range with very little wind to try to adjust for.

07-22-2009, 01:01 PM	#3 (permalink)
dad Grand Prix of Endurance Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Tennessee Posts: 3,476 Drives: Mulsanne Straight Rep Power: 26	Senate rejects law on carrying concealed weapons Senate turns down proposal to make permits valid despite differing laws Foes said it would force states to honor laws in more gun-permissive states WASHINGTON (CNN) -- The Senate narrowly rejected a measure to allow people to carry concealed weapons from state to state Wednesday. A Miami, Florida, gun store offers concealed weapons training. The vote was 58 to 39. The amendment needed 60 votes to pass. The measure would have required each of the 48 states that allow concealed firearms to honor permits issued in other states. It was the first significant defeat this year for the gun lobby. The concealed weapons proposal was an amendment to a larger defense appropriations bill, introduced by Sen. John Thune, a South Dakota Republican. Supporters of the measure argued it would help deter criminals; opponents claimed it would endanger innocent people by effectively forcing most of the country to conform to regulations in states with the loosest gun ownership standards. Sen. John Barrasso, a Wyoming Republican who is a co-sponsor of the amendment, argued Wednesday that gun licenses should apply across state lines, like driver's licenses. "People travel," he said on CNN's "American Morning." "We have truck drivers on our roads, people traveling for vacation in their vehicles, and if you have a license... you should be able to use that license in other states. It should apply like a driver's license," he said. He argued that concealed weapons deter crime. But Republican Michael Bloomberg, the mayor of New York City and an opponent of the law, said the proposed amendment would trample on states' rights. "Wyoming shouldn't be subject to New York state laws, and we're going in that direction," he said. "What's right for the people of Wyoming isn't necessarily right for the people of New York and vice versa." Bloomberg insisted that guns do not make people safer. "There's no evidence that if you have a gun, you're safer. Quite the contrary. If you have a gun at home, [you are] something like 20 times more likely to have somebody in your house killed," he said on "American Morning." "We have to protect our policemen, protect our citizens. We can't have all these guns, and it's reasonable to have each state make their own laws," he said. The issue has blurred Capitol Hill's usual partisan lines. Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, a Nevada Democrat, is one of several Southern and Western Democrats who supported the measure. Others Democrats opposed it. Before this vote, gun control advocates faced a setback when President Obama signed a credit card bill that included a provision allowing people to carry guns in national parks __________________ We can do without any article of luxury we have never had; but once obtained, it is not in human nature to surrender it voluntary.

07-22-2009, 01:30 PM	#4 (permalink)
wstar A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 4,024 Drives: too slow Rep Power: 3595	Too bad Bloomberg doesn't know the facts (re safety), but regardless, this should be passed, as it is just like the driver's license issue. Yes, driver's license reciprocity means that any state allows drivers from states with the most lax driving tests to drive. Most states don't really even have driving tests beyond what you do at age 16 when you first get your license anyways, and cars kill far more people than handguns in this country. If they're really concerned about training standards for concealed carry reciprocity, they could simply add a measure to the bill stating minimum federal requirements for the concealed handgun standards and training in order to participate in the reciprocity. Many concealed-carry states have already independently signed reciprocity agreements with each other anyways, just not all of them, and it's a huge, slow, bureaucratic mess getting every state to individually sign off with every other one. What New York (and similar states, the very few of them there are) are more concerned about is that their version of concealed carry licensing is prohibitively restrictive. They generally don't issue them to anyone who isn't a judge, cop, ex-cop, or famous person, whereas states like TX are required by law to issue a license to anyone who meets all the basic requirements (which generally amount to not being a criminal or insane, taking some classroom instruction on gun safety issues, threat escalation, and criminal psychology, and passing a shooting proficiency test). So they don't want people bypassing their restrictive issuance of licenses by just going and getting licensed in another, more lenient state. Again, this is easily remedied by amending the bill to only apply to states with "shall issue" -style carry licensing (meaning it's not up to the whim of a random person in power whether you get licensed or not, like NY is). Still, we almost got it passed, only missed it by two votes. Fix one or both of those issues and get it through already, lazy-*** congress-critters. __________________ 7AT Track Car! Journal thread / Car setup details

07-23-2009, 12:27 PM	#5 (permalink)
dad Grand Prix of Endurance Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Tennessee Posts: 3,476 Drives: Mulsanne Straight Rep Power: 26	NRA warns senators Sotomayor vote will be rated WASHINGTON – The National Rifle Association is warning senators that it will consider their votes on Supreme Court nominee Sonia Sotomayor as part of its influential annual ratings of lawmakers. The NRA says President Barack Obama's first high court nominee has a hostile view of the Second Amendment right to keep and bear arms. It announced last week that it was opposing her nomination, although her confirmation in early August is virtually guaranteed. Its promise Thursday to score the upcoming vote amounts to a threat to Republicans and conservative Democrats whose constituents are strong gun rights advocates. It comes one day after the gun lobby suffered a major loss in the Senate with defeat of a concealed weapon measure. __________________ We can do without any article of luxury we have never had; but once obtained, it is not in human nature to surrender it voluntary.

07-26-2009, 12:57 AM	#7 (permalink)
bullitt5897 Premium Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: North GA Posts: 6,831 Drives: Twin Turbo Z34 Rep Power: 3683	Ok sooo I was at the outdoor range today... Shooting my 6.8SPC 16" POF Piston Driven M4's and after getting home I took some pics! Also I have a video of a Headshot on a mannequin @ 700yds!!!! It took 12 rds to get it but none the less a head shot! lol I shot like 8 of the 12 rounds within 1" of the head with a 10x scope... Enjoy... Other Gun with 10x Nikon with BDC sight: Plus I have my new ACOG coming this next week!!!! I am excited!!! __________________ *Shop Cars: 2013 318whp Nismo VspecII 370z SOLD, 2009 1000hp+ 93oct 4.0L TT 370z Fast Intentions STAGE 4 #054*

07-28-2009, 05:04 AM	#11 (permalink)
tvfreakazoid A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: kommie kali Posts: 1,238 Drives: 2015 Audi S5; 6spd. Rep Power: 10325	I hate reading in the paper where a young kid under 10 sometimes accidentally shooting there brother, sister, or father and killing them. Those are some crazy accidents. That's why people need to very, very responsible, especially with children or teens around. __________________ Mudders milk

07-15-2009, 11:32 PM	#1 (permalink)
Roo Base Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Alta Loma Posts: 161 Drives: 2009 370z with nav Rep Power: 17	I use to be a FFL but sold my business, I use to specialize in AR15s. I can no longer get lowers and entire firearms but I can get all accessories and upper receivers.... If your interested let me know, it'll be cheaper than anywhere else I promise you.

07-27-2009, 01:21 AM	#12 (permalink)
MightyBobo A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Las Vegas, NV Posts: 8,465 Drives: No cars; only bikes Rep Power: 53	Nice bullitt - Ive got a free ACOG coming my way soon I hope . Got my M3 upper just for it. Tired of iron sights __________________ I don't own a car anymore.

07-27-2009, 11:52 AM	#13 (permalink)
bullitt5897 Premium Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: North GA Posts: 6,831 Drives: Twin Turbo Z34 Rep Power: 3683	Nice Mighty! I wish mine was free but I did find a brand new TA31F 4x32 for a steal price!!! it cost me $949.99!!!! I mean thats hella cheap!!! I was tired of my iron sights too! shoot it was getting tuff for my 300yd shots... 100-200 was spot on but at 300 you loose the whole target to the iron sight Sooo I got my ACOG and I have a tactical shoot out on the 8th so I have to go sight it in this weekend!!! __________________ *Shop Cars: 2013 318whp Nismo VspecII 370z SOLD, 2009 1000hp+ 93oct 4.0L TT 370z Fast Intentions STAGE 4 #054*