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Pushing_Tin 06-28-2009 02:22 AM

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Originally Posted by tvfreakazoid (Post 101340)
Can anyone that doesn't have a record can apply for a concealed weapon? Wow so u can walk around with a gun.

Every state is different. Usually it depends not only the state, but your county too. This is a great site if you haven't seen it.

Handgunlaw.us

One_Quick_Z 06-28-2009 02:26 AM

If you live in Illinois/Wisconsin you cant WTF I hate Chicago/Dailey/and their no weapons laws



DAN

tvfreakazoid 06-28-2009 02:58 AM

Your girl is a beut!
This may sound dumb, but since I never shot a ar well about 10 years ago or so, can you shoot where the the shells come out of? Or do you have to shot it from your right shoulder so that the shells won't hit you? I was on a website that sold left and right side upper rec???:confused:[QUOTE=semtex;100112]I have a "number" of guns, including pistols, an AR, sniper rifle, and shotgun. Here are a couple of my favorites.

My AR (Wilson Combat M4-T):
http://www.the370z.com/members/semte...4-p1000808.jpg

Crash 06-28-2009 03:52 AM

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Originally Posted by MightyBobo (Post 99784)
Egads man - something tells me smooth trigger pull and breathing may be an issue for you lol. Eyesight probably doesn't help either...

I think my grouping looked like that when I was shooting 100+ yards, and I dont really have much depth perception since I'm left-eye dominant and I shoot righty. Gotta close that damn eye /sigh.

I was holding my breath. I have VERY poor eye sight though. I don't wear glasses or anything, so seeing the target at 50yrds was a slight issue. But I don't shoot all that often. Again, I don't own a gun. But considering this was my first time shooting this gun and I was using that stupid "W" style iron sight, I think I did rather well.

ZKindaGuy 06-28-2009 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Crash (Post 101396)
I was holding my breath. I have VERY poor eye sight though. I don't wear glasses or anything, so seeing the target at 50yrds was a slight issue. But I don't shoot all that often. Again, I don't own a gun. But considering this was my first time shooting this gun and I was using that stupid "W" style iron sight, I think I did rather well.


At least you were hitting the target. But as was previously said you may be having one or more problems such as breathing, inconsistent trigger pull, bad stance, recoil reaction or anticipation.

You really do however want to work on at first at least grouping the shots somewhere on the target and then you want to to eventually move that group to either the center of the target OR placing the group at will to one area on the target...it doesn't necessarily have to be the center as long as you are choosing the single area to place the group at.

One thing I would do to get yourself grouping is to begin by sighting the rifle with the target placed at 25 feet. Work on a proper and consistent stance, trigger pull and breathing. As you start to develop target groupings then begin moving the target out from you using 25 foot incremenets and adjust the rifle sights to compensate accordingly. Keep developing the groups. If you start to scatter then stay at that target distance until you figure out what it is you are doing wrong. As you progress just keep moving the target out at 25 foot increments until you reach the final desired distince you wish to have the rifle sighted for.

Another thing you can do to improve the grouping is to progressively reduce the size of your grouping POINT down until you are just shooting a at a single 1/2" size diameter DOT you place or mark somewhere onto a target. However, I would not do this particular exercise until you are making at least a 2" to 2.5" grouping going somewhere on the entire target while doing the 25 foot progressive incemented thing I previously described above.

These are exercises I use to improve both my rifle and handgun accurancy that I learned when I was shooting nationals in bow & arrow.

Crash 06-28-2009 05:17 PM

I have someone who's teaching me to shoot. My stance is OK and like I said, I hold my breath while firing. I do have to work on the firing finger position. By habit I use the back of the pad on my middle finger and have been trying to correct myself to use the middle of the pad on my index. With the hand gun I did have a problem with recoil anticipation, but I didn't on the AR-15. In fact, it really didn't feel like it had much kick in the first place. But my friend did one of those range-master tricks to see if I was anticipating the recoil on the AR, and I didn't have any issues with that. The recoil on the hand gun was a lot more than I was used to and the pistol grip was too large for my hands, so it wasn't easy to shoot.

I'll work on grouping when I pick up my own guns. I don't want to sit there and practice with my friend's guns. My purpose to go to the range was simply to keep up on knowing how to use a gun. I'm kind of one of those people that like to know a little about everything. LOL

GMZ 07-01-2009 01:05 PM

You could call me a gun nut, but it helps that the Navy pays me to do it too. For AR's I have a regular DI AR that I built (CMMG A3 upper/AP lower) and one I built around an LWRC upper. To be quite honest I like the regular AR better. Its lighter, better balanced, cheaper, and has been 100% reliable so far. I drank the piston kool aid and its not that sweet IMO. If you give your gun the slightest modicum of care youll be fine. If youre shooting auto or suppressed then maybe a piston might be worth it. For the price of my LWRC gun I could have built another DI gun, got a case of ammo and taken another class and been way better off.

k20z3 07-01-2009 01:52 PM

AK47 some of my family has... and some other nice guns as well :)

wstar 07-01-2009 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by GMZ (Post 103877)
For the price of my LWRC gun I could have built another DI gun, got a case of ammo and taken another class and been way better off.

A lot of truth to this. Practice and classes (and good maintenance practices) are going to buy you a lot more value than the same money dumped into a piston upgrade cost.

tvfreakazoid 07-02-2009 03:12 AM

LWRC are pretty pricey. But i'm looking into getting a POF, still pricey but not quite as the LWRC. The POF are gas piston. Still deciding and I have to find a dealer to get me one.
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Originally Posted by GMZ (Post 103877)
You could call me a gun nut, but it helps that the Navy pays me to do it too. For AR's I have a regular DI AR that I built (CMMG A3 upper/AP lower) and one I built around an LWRC upper. To be quite honest I like the regular AR better. Its lighter, better balanced, cheaper, and has been 100% reliable so far. I drank the piston kool aid and its not that sweet IMO. If you give your gun the slightest modicum of care youll be fine. If youre shooting auto or suppressed then maybe a piston might be worth it. For the price of my LWRC gun I could have built another DI gun, got a case of ammo and taken another class and been way better off.


Pushing_Tin 07-03-2009 12:42 AM

I went to the range today with a friend who is a parole officer for the county. They are required to carry and qualify quarterly, so he showed me some of their drills etc. One thing he showed me was holding the slide on a semi-auto with the palm of your hand. It forces all of the gases out of the front of the gun leaving a massive blast wound. This does force you to rack the slide to clear the shell though.

The picture is from his .40, the other is me shooting my two 9mms.

http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/j..._tin/blast.jpg

http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/j...n/shooting.jpg

Pushing_Tin 07-03-2009 01:52 AM

Alison Haislip Learns to Use Heavy Artillery and Explosives - G4tv.com

tvfreakazoid 07-04-2009 05:18 PM

I saw that. Damn she was shooting some heavy artillery. Even though i'm not to serious about guns, but I would like to attend one of those shows so that I can experience shooting different weapons.
I really want to try and shoot the mini gun.
Probably expensive.
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Originally Posted by Pushing_Tin (Post 105438)


CrownR426 07-04-2009 09:23 PM

Aren't assault rifles illegal in the us?

StLRedrider 07-04-2009 09:35 PM

I think as long as they are not fully auto it's ok. You can get a special liscense to have fully auto's i believe. If im wrong let me know.

weltall 07-04-2009 10:47 PM

yes they are legal again

full auto ones however you have to have a special permit and on top of that the weapon had to have been originally manufactured as full auto and cannot be a converted full auto (example is an ak47 there are only a handfull of legal registered full auto aks in the hands of citizens the rest belong to military or law enforcement)

for you to buy one of those the price alone is a turn off as you would spen close to 10-15k for a legal ak47

no automatic weapons for personal use were allowed to be manufactured after the firearms safety act of the mid-early 80s (it was earmarked in the bill which primary intent was to allow for mail order ammunition sales)

i have an AK47 semi auto (but bump shooting gives me my fullauto fix)


you can buy the full auto conversion online for the ak (ftf industries i think) but wheras posession is legal including th templat for drilling the extra rivet and all the parts to do so

utilizing them however is a federal offense

the ar is just a sear and a bolt filing and its all drop in and owning the sear alone is against the law from what i have been told

StLRedrider 07-04-2009 10:49 PM

how new a street bike are we a talkin?

Sharif@Forged 07-05-2009 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by CrownR426 (Post 106497)
Aren't assault rifles illegal in the us?

You need to get out of NJ.....the most gun unfriendly state in the nation. :)
Perfectly legal in many states....move to Atlanta, GA.

StLRedrider 07-05-2009 12:11 AM

Illinois is pretty tough too, i might as well throw my HK in the mississippi before i hit the state line.

MightyBobo 07-05-2009 01:00 AM

Never mind my ridiculous face - my photographer didnt know how to use a camera to save their life, and the sun was right in my eyes :(. But I got to hold onto this not long ago :)

http://images46.fotki.com/v1506/phot...po09003-vi.jpg

StLRedrider 07-05-2009 01:06 AM

That's german,correct? Mg-42

MightyBobo 07-05-2009 01:22 AM

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Originally Posted by StLRedrider (Post 106830)
That's german,correct? Mg-42

Yes, but its an MG-34.

StLRedrider 07-05-2009 01:29 AM

All my family are from Germany, i love WWII Weapons and aircraft. We have a very interesting history over there.

Pushing_Tin 07-05-2009 02:35 AM

I'm surprised nobody commented on this picture.

http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/j..._tin/blast.jpg

semtex 07-05-2009 06:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Pushing_Tin (Post 106871)
I'm surprised nobody commented on this picture.

http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/j..._tin/blast.jpg

It looks to me like you blew Billy Mays' face off as he was attempting to demo his Mighty Putty to a terrified woman. Either that, or the woman is screaming: "Don't shoot, I'm about to get some Mighty Putty! I haven't had Mighty Putty in years!!!"

BanningZ 07-05-2009 06:44 AM

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Originally Posted by semtex (Post 106894)
It looks to me like you blew Billy Mays' face off as he was attempting to demo his Mighty Putty to a terrified woman. Either that, or the woman is screaming: "Don't shoot, I'm about to get some Mighty Putty! I haven't had Mighty Putty in years!!!"

I hear her voice as Reverend Stroup on King of the Hill

dad 07-05-2009 08:49 PM

Read.

AIMED Point Shooting or P&S For Self Defense

semtex 07-06-2009 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by dad (Post 107437)

Very cool. Thx for posting that link!

wstar 07-06-2009 11:38 AM

While I like "instinctive shooting" training in general and think it's great for practical handgun stuff, I'm not a fan of the system they're showing there (point with index finger and pull trigger with middle finger). That looks really awkward and very non-standard. For fast, practical shots at close ranges (which is what they're going for), it's really not hard to learn to instinctively point the gun while holding it properly and using the correct finger on the trigger.

On the other hand for anything that gives you a tiny slice more time to aim: you shouldn't have your finger on the trigger until you're on the target anyways (a very cardinal safety rule). Where you keep your finger until that time is straight down the side of the gun anyways, which does allow for "pointing" to help your initial aim. Then you fine tune with the sights while you move your finger to the trigger.

A laser sight (which I'm not a fan of in practice for carrying) is a great training tool for training instinctive aiming by the way. You can practice all day with an unloaded gun dry-firing, and see exactly how the real aiming point lines up with your intent.

molamann 07-06-2009 07:05 PM

What do you guys suggest for a nice reliable 9mm/.40/.45 handgun for weekend target shooting? I'm willing to spend a little more money for quality so Walmart brands are scratched off the list.

grahfz 07-06-2009 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by molamann (Post 108483)
What do you guys suggest for a nice reliable 9mm/.40/.45 handgun for weekend target shooting? I'm willing to spend a little more money for quality so Walmart brands are scratched off the list.

Springfield XD45
I've got the long barrel, but you can get them in shorter. No problems with it so far, and it carries Springfields excellent lifetime warranty.

About to go get a S&W 442 or something similar for pocket carry.

http://www.the370z.com/members/grahf...ritysystem.jpg

bullitt5897 07-06-2009 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by molamann (Post 108483)
What do you guys suggest for a nice reliable 9mm/.40/.45 handgun for weekend target shooting? I'm willing to spend a little more money for quality so Walmart brands are scratched off the list.

I am shooting the Newer H&K Tactical USP .45ACP (the one put up to replace the US military sidearm last year) it will set you back about a $1000.00 but it is freaking nuts perfect! On a slightly lower budget the Sig Sauer P220 .45acp is amazing as well. That will set you back about $700-800...

go to a gun show!!! Hold the guns find what fits for you then do research on the ones you liked from the show...

Good Luck!

molamann 07-06-2009 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by bullitt5897 (Post 108490)
I am shooting the Newer H&K Tactical USP .45ACP (the one put up to replace the US military sidearm last year) it will set you back about a $1000.00 but it is freaking nuts perfect! On a slightly lower budget the Sig Sauer P220 .45acp is amazing as well. That will set you back about $700-800...

go to a gun show!!! Hold the guns find what fits for you then do research on the ones you liked from the show...

Good Luck!

I'm not aware of the "newer" H&K USP's but the USP's are exactly the one I had mind set on. I love the way it looks but since most of my friends own American brands, I haven't got much personal feedbacks regarding the USP's.

bullitt5897 07-06-2009 08:13 PM

the USPs are insanely well built and the mechanics are amazing. I have shot several brands and by far this is one of the best guns on the market!!! I love my 1911 customs but for compactness and accuracy The H&K will rock any of its competitor's worlds! Very little recoil for a .45 and follow up shots are within 1 moa @ 25yrds

GMZ 07-06-2009 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by molamann (Post 108483)
What do you guys suggest for a nice reliable 9mm/.40/.45 handgun for weekend target shooting? I'm willing to spend a little more money for quality so Walmart brands are scratched off the list.

Glock. I hate them but I cant argue with the reliability and the price so I got myself a 19 (9mm) for Christmas and have been carrying it since. If a Glock doesnt do it for you, Id suggest an xD or M&P otherwise.

racerxj17 07-06-2009 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Sharif@Forged (Post 106765)
You need to get out of NJ.....the most gun unfriendly state in the nation. :)
Perfectly legal in many states....move to Atlanta, GA.

guess you never been to CA before..

Pushing_Tin 07-06-2009 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by GMZ (Post 108559)
Glock. I hate them but I cant argue with the reliability and the price so I got myself a 19 (9mm) for Christmas and have been carrying it since. If a Glock doesnt do it for you, Id suggest an xD or M&P otherwise.

Glocks are nice and dependable, but do nothing for me. I have two M&Ps and LOVE them. In fact I traded a more expensive Kahr for my second M&P for concealed carry.

Other reasons, they are very affordable, they are American made so regardless of bans or embargos in other countries you can get service and parts. The customer service is amazing, lifetime warranty and they pay for overnight shipping both ways. Pretty sweet.

http://www.shootingtimes.com/handgun...0806insetA.jpg

tvfreakazoid 07-09-2009 03:24 PM

What is about the average weight for an upper rec? I called POF and the guy weighed an upper rec 16" with 12" rail system including the site, and it came to 7.25lbs. Is this about average or is it pretty heavy for an upper rec?

grahfz 07-10-2009 02:21 PM

Picked up a sidekick to my xd45 5".
model 36
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c2...ien/dualin.jpg

Gonna burn up these wadcutters and move to hollowpoints for daily carry.

Greasy 07-10-2009 05:06 PM

I'm into them... don't own any yet. I've been floating around gun forums for the past year or two trying to figure out what I want. I have yet to fully make up my mind though. Probably set on an xd45c. I also really like the gsg5's, its just a lot of money for a .22.


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