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dts3 11-30-2018 08:46 PM
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Originally Posted by solidus (Post 3802902)
Thought I was the only crazy person. I reload on a Dillon XL650 but I have'nt cranked on it in awhile. Best part is I get all the brass from the range at work in exchange for taking a few of the buckets that frangible ammo comes in. Win win.
You're fancy lol. I'm just running a Lee Loadmaster 5 stage progressive. It does it's job, but it's a little touchy

solidus 11-30-2018 09:33 PM
Honestly sometimes I used to wish I just had a single stage. That learning curve was steep going straight to a Dillon. I must have 10 reloading manuals a couple different polishers , a carton full of b.s. primers and powders I should've known better than buying.

Rusty 11-30-2018 09:35 PM
I got everything that you can think of for reloading. But don't have a Dillion yet.

solidus 11-30-2018 09:56 PM
I've done 9mm, 45acp .223 and .308. It's weirdly therapeutic. But if you get going DO not allow yourself to be distracted. That's when bad juju happens.

Ghostvette 12-03-2018 08:11 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by solidus (Post 3802902)
Thought I was the only crazy person. I reload on a Dillon XL650 but I have'nt cranked on it in awhile. Best part is I get all the brass from the range at work in exchange for taking a few of the buckets that frangible ammo comes in. Win win.
Quote:
Originally Posted by dts3 (Post 3802926)
You're fancy lol. I'm just running a Lee Loadmaster 5 stage progressive. It does it's job, but it's a little touchy
Quote:
Originally Posted by solidus (Post 3802947)
Honestly sometimes I used to wish I just had a single stage. That learning curve was steep going straight to a Dillon. I must have 10 reloading manuals a couple different polishers , a carton full of b.s. primers and powders I should've known better than buying.
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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 3802948)
I got everything that you can think of for reloading. But don't have a Dillion yet.
I've still got my RCBS RockChucker single stage, and a Hornady LNL. I'm not sure, but I might have a pair of RockChuckers, the mind plays tricks every now and again...:bowrofl::bowrofl:

The learning curve IS steep going to a progressive press, the hard part is getting all the dies adjusted so you don't crush cases or bullets. I'm debating going back to a single stage, because like solidus said, it's therapeutic reloading, especially if it's on a single stage. I would do about 500 rounds at a whack of 45ACP, running them through the sizer, then sitting and watching TV while putting in primers. :icon14: Amazingly enough, I didn't screw any up...:bowrofl:

dts3 12-03-2018 08:48 AM
Yeah, I started on a single stage myself. I still have it mounted and I use it for depriming, because I'm a little anal about running the brass through the tumbler and getting the primer pockets clean.

And it's definitely therapeutic. Just don't let it become an obsession. I bought a chronograph, and I've been logging results for my 45colt in half-grain increments for a given weight bullet (I cast my own), measuring velocity consistency and accuracy. It can definitely be taken too far.

Ghostvette 12-03-2018 08:56 AM
I considered the bullet casting, but I didn't really have a good place to use for casting. With all the brass I already have, I was usually pushing the weight limit when moving. Of course, the old Craftsman tool box and roll away full of tools didn't help.... :bowrofl:


I've put all my reloading stuff and ammo in the basement with the washer & dryer, then put an electronic lock on the door, just so the grand kids don't get into something they are not supposed to.

I've got dies for 380, 9, 38/357, 40, 41, 45ACP, 223, 32 Win Spl, 6.8 SPC, 308, 30-06, 30-30 & 300BLK... I think I need some more.... :ugh2::ugh2:

dts3 12-03-2018 09:01 AM
I love the casting. I have two pots, one to clean up the lead (I have 350 pounds of lead wheel weights) and another to melt down my ingots for the actual casting. You can also buy clean lead ingots on ebay. When I started it was about $1.25/pound, but I guess it's running closer to $2.00 these days. It's funny because the sellers abuse the spirit of the USPS flat rate shipping boxes and send 20lbs of lead at a time.

solidus 12-03-2018 12:44 PM
500 rounds of 45 takes me about 30-45 minutes on the Dillon. I have separate heads that I set up for each caliber and just swap heads. The only thing I have to watch is powder and priming. I usually go 50rds and then weigh powder charge just because I had a batch one time I used for a steel competition come in so hot I had to aim at the base of the target to hit center mass using my FNP45 tactical.

Rusty 12-03-2018 12:54 PM
If I was still shooting handgun like I was years ago. I would go Dillion. For now, the rockchucker does me find.

I cast my own handgun bullets too. Use a 20 lbs Lyman furance and sizer luber. I cast bullets for 9mm, 38/357, 2 different 44's, 2 different 45's, and 40/10mm. When I worked at Elliott. We had a bearing dept that made babbit bearings. So I had a good supply of different lead alloys. Still have about 500 lbs in the garage.

Ghostvette 12-03-2018 02:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 3803533)
If I was still shooting handgun like I was years ago. I would go Dillion. For now, the rockchucker does me find.

I cast my own handgun bullets too. Use a 20 lbs Lyman furance and sizer luber. I cast bullets for 9mm, 38/357, 2 different 44's, 2 different 45's, and 40/10mm. When I worked at Elliott. We had a bearing dept that made babbit bearings. So I had a good supply of different lead alloys. Still have about 500 lbs in the garage.

Hmmm..... I need to check my stock of lead 9 & 45... I might have to DM you for some bullets... :tup:

Rusty 12-03-2018 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Ghostvette (Post 3803553)
Hmmm..... I need to check my stock of lead 9 & 45... I might have to DM you for some bullets... :tup:
On the 9mm, 38/357, and 44's. I use a gas check on the base of them.

VABAM 12-03-2018 06:38 PM
:hello:
All this talk of reloading makes me want to get back into it. :p

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Originally Posted by dts3 (Post 3802508)
I put together an AR pistol in 300 blackout. It's a blast to shoot.
I recently made a 300BLK AR pistol too. I went a non-standard route with mine. This is going to sound silly but after seeing Wanted (the movie) I wanted mag feed pirate pistol. Many years later.......:rolleyes:

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Specs/Info:
Lower
- Fightlite SCR complete pistol lower
- Forward Controls EMR-A ambi mag release
- Forward Controls ABC/R boltcatch/release

Upper
- V Seven 6.5" barrel 300BLK fluted barrel with HS Bolt
- V Seven 2055 Lithium Aluminum Unlightened Upper
- V Seven 2099 Lithium Aluminum 5.7" Ultra-Light M-Lok Handguard.
- V Seven Titanium A2 Style Compensator
- Fightlite SCR BCG
- Radian Raptor-SL

The V Seven parts are stupid light. The lower is where most of the weight comes from. Total weight with optic is about 3.5 pound and about 4.5 pounds with a loaded 20 round mag.

Pics:
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VABAM 12-03-2018 06:48 PM
Haven't had a chance to shoot my 300BLK AR pistol yet because my local ranges are weird about AR/AK pistols. Most have flat out ban AR/AK pistols. One range allows AR/AK pistols but they have to have braces. There is one that allows all AR/AK pistols but I hate that range. The restrictions aren't due to legal concerns like dealing with AFT rulings. It is all due to stupid people not controlling their guns. For example; I had a discussion with one range's staff and their ban came after the owner of the range saw a guy with an AK pistol buy 100 rounds, shoot all of them at the same target and only 6 rounds hit the target. If it wasn't hunting season I would just go in the woods and blast away. I probably will build a standard lower with a brace later on making it easier to shoot it in general.

Any of you guys have issues with AR/AK Pistols at public ranges?

Rusty 12-03-2018 08:59 PM
At my gun club. You can shoot anything. Long as you don't do a mag dump. I can also go to a state game land range and do anything if no one is around.

Rusty 12-03-2018 09:09 PM
This talk about AR pistols wants me to build a AR SBR 300 with a 12" barrel . An OSS suppressor. The upper and lower would be an ASA side cocking.

https://osssuppressors.com/

dts3 12-03-2018 10:50 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by VABAM (Post 3803593)
Haven't had a chance to shoot my 300BLK AR pistol yet because my local ranges are weird about AR/AK pistols. Most have flat out ban AR/AK pistols. One range allows AR/AK pistols but they have to have braces. There is one that allows all AR/AK pistols but I hate that range. The restrictions aren't due to legal concerns like dealing with AFT rulings. It is all due to stupid people not controlling their guns. For example; I had a discussion with one range's staff and their ban came after the owner of the range saw a guy with an AK pistol buy 100 rounds, shoot all of them at the same target and only 6 rounds hit the target. If it wasn't hunting season I would just go in the woods and blast away. I probably will build a standard lower with a brace later on making it easier to shoot it in general.

Any of you guys have issues with AR/AK Pistols at public ranges?
I've come across two ranges that don't allow AR pistols. I was told directly that it is because of them covering their *** for potential legal issues. Technically if you put the buffer tube of an AR pistol to your shoulder as if it's a stock then you're using it as an SBR and violating the NFA in a major way. I don't know if it's been tested in court, but an ATF agent with a bug up his *** can make a lot of trouble for you and the range. Gotta keep the buffer tube off your shoulder.

Ghostvette 12-04-2018 08:42 AM
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Originally Posted by dts3 (Post 3803643)
I've come across two ranges that don't allow AR pistols. I was told directly that it is because of them covering their *** for potential legal issues. Technically if you put the buffer tube of an AR pistol to your shoulder as if it's a stock then you're using it as an SBR and violating the NFA in a major way. I don't know if it's been tested in court, but an ATF agent with a bug up his *** can make a lot of trouble for you and the range. Gotta keep the buffer tube off your shoulder.
Unfortunately, there are too many stupid owners that do chit like that and make it hard for the rest of us. :shakes head::shakes head:

VABAM 12-04-2018 11:14 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by dts3 (Post 3803643)
I've come across two ranges that don't allow AR pistols. I was told directly that it is because of them covering their *** for potential legal issues. Technically if you put the buffer tube of an AR pistol to your shoulder as if it's a stock then you're using it as an SBR and violating the NFA in a major way. I don't know if it's been tested in court, but an ATF agent with a bug up his *** can make a lot of trouble for you and the range. Gotta keep the buffer tube off your shoulder.
That is not true. Shouldering a buffer tube does not make an AR pistol a SBR (based on current FTA rulings). The buffer tube on a AR pistol is not designed to nor intended to be a stock. Just because you are using it in a way not desgined/intended for does not "redesign" the weapon. What if I shoulder a regular pistol/revolver? Is it suddenly a SBR? No. This is also true when it comes to braces. Braces are not intended/designed to be a stock so if it is shouldered it doesn't make it a SBR. Now if you modify a brace in any way other than how it is came from the manufacture then you could be in legal hot water because it could be viewed as a redesign. Now another legal grey area is intent. If you go on the record saying your are planning to use a brace as a stock to bypass the NFA then you are in the wrong. Also stupid.

The opinion of a real lawyer on latest ATF letter:
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A practical (non-lawyer) opinion on latest ATF letter and why the 2015 letter came about.
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dts3, If you had said something like "Even though the ATF has ruled that shouldering AR pistols is okay, I'm not going to because in my opinion it too much of an grey area" (or something like that) I can respect that. Saying that shouldering AR/AK pistols is illegal and violates the NFA, please don't take this the wrong way, is uninformed or irresponsible. Just my :twocents: and please treat it as such. :rolleyes:

The ATF has yet to arrest anybody nor shut down a range over the pistol brace or shouldering pistols. Only one person has been arrested and charged by local LEO, not ATF, for shouldering a Sig Brace but that was when they first came out. Those charges were dropped after that local LEO consulted with the ATF and the ATF said he had not violate NFA rules. All the ranges in my area are not worried about the ATF WRT AR/AK pistols. They are worried about damage to their ranges due to idiots not controlling their AR/AK pistols.

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Originally Posted by Ghostvette (Post 3803682)
Unfortunately, there are too many stupid owners that do chit like that and make it hard for the rest of us. :shakes head::shakes head:
:iagree: Stupid people have caused too many restrictions at my local ranges. I'm glad I have access to a private range. How ever that private range is part of a hunt club and it is gun hunting season so the range is unavailable for awhile. Also Stupid people caused the 2015 ATF letter WRT pistol braces as Mac talked about in the vid above.

VABAM 12-04-2018 11:32 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 3803628)
This talk about AR pistols wants me to build a AR SBR 300 with a 12" barrel . An OSS suppressor. The upper and lower would be an ASA side cocking.

https://osssuppressors.com/
I'm going to build an SBR at some point. Really would like to SBR a X95 in 300BLK with a stubby suppressor of some sort. :yum:

An AR pistol is a little more practical for me at the moment. One reason is traveling with it across state lines. I live close to a state line and I don't want to have to deal with asking the ATF for permission to travel to another state with it. I'm not trying to get around the NFA, I'm just more willing to deal with the cons of an AR pistol than the cons of a SBR at the moment. Also I travel a lot for work and having NFA items would make things difficult. Hopefully in the near future that will change and once I have settled in where ever I ended up I will be building/buying some NFA items. :tup:


For those who don't know about traveling with NFA items:
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ZeeingAround 12-05-2018 09:31 AM
Grabbed a Sig Sauer Romeo5 RD on sale at Palmetto state armory. Now I need to find the time to go to the range. Might add the Juliet magnifier too if it goes on sale.

dts3 12-05-2018 09:57 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by VABAM (Post 3803737)
That is not true. Shouldering a buffer tube does not make an AR pistol a SBR (based on current FTA rulings). The buffer tube on a AR pistol is not designed to nor intended to be a stock. Just because you are using it in a way not desgined/intended for does not "redesign" the weapon. What if I shoulder a regular pistol/revolver? Is it suddenly a SBR? No. This is also true when it comes to braces. Braces are not intended/designed to be a stock so if it is shouldered it doesn't make it a SBR. Now if you modify a brace in any way other than how it is came from the manufacture then you could be in legal hot water because it could be viewed as a redesign. Now another legal grey area is intent. If you go on the record saying your are planning to use a brace as a stock to bypass the NFA then you are in the wrong. Also stupid.

The opinion of a real lawyer on latest ATF letter:
( Click to show/hide )

A practical (non-lawyer) opinion on latest ATF letter and why the 2015 letter came about.
( Click to show/hide )

dts3, If you had said something like "Even though the ATF has ruled that shouldering AR pistols is okay, I'm not going to because in my opinion it too much of an grey area" (or something like that) I can respect that. Saying that shouldering AR/AK pistols is illegal and violates the NFA, please don't take this the wrong way, is uninformed or irresponsible. Just my :twocents: and please treat it as such. :rolleyes:

The ATF has yet to arrest anybody nor shut down a range over the pistol brace or shouldering pistols. Only one person has been arrested and charged by local LEO, not ATF, for shouldering a Sig Brace but that was when they first came out. Those charges were dropped after that local LEO consulted with the ATF and the ATF said he had not violate NFA rules. All the ranges in my area are not worried about the ATF WRT AR/AK pistols. They are worried about damage to their ranges due to idiots not controlling their AR/AK pistols.



:iagree: Stupid people have caused too many restrictions at my local ranges. I'm glad I have access to a private range. How ever that private range is part of a hunt club and it is gun hunting season so the range is unavailable for awhile. Also Stupid people caused the 2015 ATF letter WRT pistol braces as Mac talked about in the vid above.
Fair points. I was using the reasos/logic given to me by the range master to confirm my apparently incorrect understanding. What you mentioned about intent is more or less where I was going with my post

bunk 12-10-2018 03:58 PM
Man, I have about 24lbs of IMR 4895, 30lbs of AA2230, 15lbs of W231. 5k .22 FMJ, 1.5k, .30 Caliber FMJ 2k .45FMJ, and 500 .45 polymer coated. I wont even try to count brass. I just know I have a ton to clean and prep..ugh..lol
Also, I have a Lee Progressive I use as a single stage. Its a POS.

Rusty 12-10-2018 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by bunk (Post 3805194)
Man, I have about 24lbs of IMR 4895, 30lbs of AA2230, 15lbs of W231. 5k .22 FMJ, 1.5k, .30 Caliber FMJ 2k .45FMJ, and 500 .45 polymer coated. I wont even try to count brass. I just know I have a ton to clean and prep..ugh..lol
Also, I have a Lee Progressive I use as a single stage. Its a POS.
That's a chit load of powder. :rofl2:

bunk 12-11-2018 08:12 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 3805201)
That's a chit load of powder. :rofl2:
Yup. I ramped up on supplies due to Ca's dumb laws. Theres a shop in phx that has powder pretty cheap. I was picking up a jug here and there whenever Id visit..

dts3 01-01-2019 01:57 AM
Here's the family
 
Here is some of my collection:

Big and little brothers. These are a 20" rifle in 5.56 and a 10.5" pistol in 300 Blackout. That ACOG cost as much as the rest of the rifle it's on :shakes head:
https://i.imgur.com/DxZ0ftUl.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/vmYuGgHl.jpg

He is on his way to being a supressed SBR in 300 Blackout. Yes, two tax stamps :icon14:
https://i.imgur.com/C0vzlhrl.jpg

I'm not sure what he's going to be yet. I bought him because my brother gave me a $40 gift card to Cabela's, so I walked in, and ten minutes later I walked out with a receiver for $10 (paperwork is much faster with a CPL). I'm thinking a carbine length .50 Beowulf because why not?
https://i.imgur.com/yfhfRfNl.jpg

Carry pistols depending on how baggy my clothes for the day will be. A Kimber Ultra CDP ii with CrimsonTrace grips and tritium night sights, and an XDS 9mm with Streamlight tlr-3. It was the smallest that they offered when I bought it, but I'll be upgrading to the tlr-6 soon.
https://i.imgur.com/MhiOABwl.jpg

Ruger Blackhawk in .45 Colt. I reload 280grain cast lead to .44mag velocities and it's so fun to shoot. Very rough on the hands though. I bought the convertible model so I have an extra cylinder in .45 ACP that doesn't get much use
https://i.imgur.com/KmraZXnl.jpg

My dedicated truck gun. This is the gun that Kimber likes to pretend that they never made. It's a pro BP ten ii. She's not pretty, but she's proven herself. I've put thousands of rounds through her over the last 13 years, and have only had two jams, both with questionable ammo. This is my second most accurate pistol, so she's earned her place in the center console. 14+1 of .45 ACP in a 1911 is not something to ignore.
https://i.imgur.com/za9yjcal.jpg

dts3 01-01-2019 01:09 PM
I almost forgot about her. She will be a beautiful 1911 some day when she grows up. I even have the wood for her grips
https://i.imgur.com/1sVgGjWl.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/6Ee0vGMl.jpg

ZeeingAround 01-14-2019 02:42 PM
I was at the gun show this last weekend. No good deals on the FN57. Probably going to try when I am in Colorado this fall.
Picked up some other stuff.
http://www.the370z.com/members/zeein...pikeslower.jpg

Because? Because it was funny as ****. might make it into a 9mm shorty.


Also got a helluva deal on a Glock model 19 Gen3 with lots of upgrades. Was looking for the Gen4, but not at $530!

This has aftermarket grips. Still trying to identify them, But they fit great. Storm lake barrel. Tungsten Guide pin, new slide release in stainless. I still have to look at the trigger at little closer to see what it is. bought a 33rd mag to go along with the others. Went shooting sunday at some large block and bottles of Ice. Fun times with the kid.

dts3 01-14-2019 11:01 PM
That's an awesome receiver id love to have one

Rusty 01-14-2019 11:23 PM
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Originally Posted by ZeeingAround (Post 3815432)
I was at the gun show this last weekend. No good deals on the FN57. Probably going to try when I am in Colorado this fall.
Picked up some other stuff.
http://www.the370z.com/members/zeein...pikeslower.jpg

Because? Because it was funny as ****. might make it into a 9mm shorty.


Also got a helluva deal on a Glock model 19 Gen3 with lots of upgrades. Was looking for the Gen4, but not at $530!

This has aftermarket grips. Still trying to identify them, But they fit great. Storm lake barrel. Tungsten Guide pin, new slide release in stainless. I still have to look at the trigger at little closer to see what it is. bought a 33rd mag to go along with the others. Went shooting sunday at some large block and bottles of Ice. Fun times with the kid.
That's funny. :tup: :rofl2:

ZeeingAround 01-15-2019 04:12 PM
Colorized version:

http://www.the370z.com/members/zeein...-colorized.jpg

urdeliveryguy 01-15-2019 08:41 PM
Sup all. Ive recently fell into the world of 10/22. Im looking for a support program.

Rusty 01-15-2019 09:04 PM
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Originally Posted by urdeliveryguy (Post 3815796)
Sup all. Ive recently fell into the world of 10/22. Im looking for a support program.
Been there, done that, and got the tee shirts. :rofl2:

VABAM 01-15-2019 10:32 PM
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Sup all. Ive recently fell into the world of 10/22. Im looking for a support program.
I almost went full diy custom build 10/22 but ended up buying a factory built one from Tactical Solutions. Picked up one of their X-Ring Takedowns with the Magpul Backpacker stock a couple of years back. It’s stupid light and very accurate. Mine has a TacSol modded Ruger BX-Trigger which is the only Ruger part in the whole thing other than the mags. One of the reasons I went with TacSol was for the barrel. Their takedown barrels are very accurate and have the best open sights for a takedown 10/22 set up I’ve seen. The rear sight is attached to the rear of the barrel not the receiver so you don’t lose your zero. BTW out of the box zero was dead on. I’m thinking TacSol zeroes or at least bore sights their rifles before they leave the factory. Also the rear sight is fully adjustable and both front and rear sport fiber optic pipes. The sights are so good I have no plans on mounting any sort of optics. You can buy their takedown barrels separately if you already have a Ruger takedown 10/22. I didn’t have a 10/22 when I bought it so figured I’d get the whole rifle. For a 10/22 they are not cheap (IIRC mine was about $800) but I would gladly spend the money on one again if I want another 10/22. They are that good. Now TacSol has updated their X-Ring receiver with a ambidextrous bolt handle call the X-Ring VR which has added about $100 to the price. You can still get the non VR ones on GunBroker.com for about $850.

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urdeliveryguy 01-16-2019 10:00 AM
Got it for christmas. Already upgraded to the bx trigger with a few volquartsen parts. Nikon scope (im in love with the bdc reticle on it) Its stacking rounds with the factory threaded barrel. Im impressed.

Absolutly hate the take down and reassembly of it.

SouthArk370Z 01-16-2019 10:07 AM
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Originally Posted by urdeliveryguy (Post 3815922)
... Absolutly hate the take down and reassembly of it.
It can be a PITA at times, but gets a lot easier with practice.

VABAM 01-16-2019 07:33 PM
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Originally Posted by urdeliveryguy (Post 3815922)
Got it for christmas. Already upgraded to the bx trigger with a few volquartsen parts. Nikon scope (im in love with the bdc reticle on it) Its stacking rounds with the factory threaded barrel. Im impressed.

Absolutly hate the take down and reassembly of it.
The factory barrels are pretty good. The after market ones are just that much better and in the case of TacSol lighter. :tup:

Hotrodz 01-25-2019 10:08 AM
Forgot to post these bad boys. Lol, I haven't played with them other than talking the attached pictures.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...335f3f7880.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...2a8be9209c.jpg

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Rusty 01-26-2019 02:15 PM
Just bought 2, MagPul PMAG D-60 60 round drum mags. Haven't tried them out yet. Yeah, I'm illegal in some states. :rofl2:

urdeliveryguy 02-24-2019 10:44 PM
Update on the 10/22. Ive shot probly 700rds in the last month. Seriously, cant put the thing down. First hundred rounds i noticed alot of metal shavings in the reciever. It went away. The action is smooth now. The only thing i havnt touched is the barrel. Now with the new stock i have an excuse to take it back out and dial it in again.
https://i.imgur.com/HNrqSz6h.jpg


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