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Originally Posted by Rooster89 I've never fired a handgun with a can, only long guns. Can you fire it without hearing protection? I've had a couple good-quality 9mm suppressors. Both

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Old 06-18-2012, 05:59 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I've never fired a handgun with a can, only long guns. Can you fire it without hearing protection?
I've had a couple good-quality 9mm suppressors. Both were fine for shooting 147gr ammo (naturally subsonic in most loadings) with no hearing protection. The clacking of the gun's action was almost louder than the pop from the firing itself. I've heard .45 is similar but without having to be so picky about ammo (since it's almost all subsonic), but never tried it myself.

Suppressor on a shorty AR-15 on the other hand, is a whole different ballgame. The outdoors sound level goes down from "ear-damaging" to "possibly not quite ear-damaging, but I'm not sure". Indoors you'd definitely still want plugs if you had the choice. Subsonic ammo (which also doesn't cycle the action) can make even an SBR AR-15 really dead quiet, but then it's about as ballistically useful as .22LR, so you might as well just use that. I bought a couple boxes from an ammo mfg here in TX once, never even finished shooting those.
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I've had a couple good-quality 9mm suppressors. Both were fine for shooting 147gr ammo (naturally subsonic in most loadings) with no hearing protection. The clacking of the gun's action was almost louder than the pop from the firing itself. I've heard .45 is similar but without having to be so picky about ammo (since it's almost all subsonic), but never tried it myself.

Suppressor on a shorty AR-15 on the other hand, is a whole different ballgame. The outdoors sound level goes down from "ear-damaging" to "possibly not quite ear-damaging, but I'm not sure". Indoors you'd definitely still want plugs if you had the choice. Subsonic ammo (which also doesn't cycle the action) can make even an SBR AR-15 really dead quiet, but then it's about as ballistically useful as .22LR, so you might as well just use that. I bought a couple boxes from an ammo mfg here in TX once, never even finished shooting those.
Mine is a 14.5" pinned barrel. I shot it today, and without ears, I could dump a 20 round magazine slow/steady fire without discomfort. I then turned my switchblock to "normal", and it rang my ear. You NEED a way to damp the gas down to the right flow-rate, or you will be unnecessarily adding a few dB to things. Is mine REALLY hearing-safe? No, the ballistic crack is about 150dB, but it IS coming from downrange, and what's there to reflect it back to you is what matters. Indoors it sucks. Outside, not too bad at all, as I discovered. Sounds like a .22 semi-auto shooting stingers.

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I already have a pinned 14.5" Noveske to put it on, but I wanted a clone of what I already have, except in SBR form...so here we go again...

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I already have a pinned 14.5" Noveske to put it on, but I wanted a clone of what I already have, except in SBR form...so here we go again...

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(I chose to have them use a chrome-lined hammer-forged barrel from the M249 spec that Noveske uses, Geissele SSA trigger, and LMT stock and Surefire flash-hider instead of what you see pictured).

Nice stuff. I want a 9-10" Noveske .300 Blackout upper
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Nice! I'm holding off on the 300AAC until I know where it's headed, and whether or not it will really catch on and if they can iron the issues out with it.
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I'm thinking about building my own AK47 kit. I have posted on other forums so i can get some opionions (It would be my first AK and first to have one built. But i have shot ak's before)

I'm getting that its better to buy a pre built ak cause it will be cheaper and less of a pain in the *** to build one. Or get a wasr and have rifle dynamics upgrade the wasr. But since i live in cali, with ffl fee's, shipping charges, bullet button, i'll end up paying over 1k if i go this route. Hell i'll end up paying the same to have one built. But i won't have to go through an FFL dealer and i can buy my own aftermarket kits.

I don't have any tools but occasionally we have build parties and usually they have all the necessary tools to have ak's built.

I want your thoughts, opionions or suggestions! Have anyone of guys built your own AK? How would you say it compares to say a wasr or even a arsenal ak's. (quality of the build, finish and how does it shot )

Here's one of the kit i may get, but it is pricey.

1969 Izhmash AKM Parts Kit
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Oh i wish kali would allow suppressors.
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I'm getting that its better to buy a pre built ak cause it will be cheaper and less of a pain in the *** to build one. Or get a wasr and have rifle dynamics upgrade the wasr. But since i live in cali, with ffl fee's, shipping charges, bullet button, i'll end up paying over 1k if i go this route. Hell i'll end up paying the same to have one built. But i won't have to go through an FFL dealer and i can buy my own aftermarket kits.

I don't have any tools but occasionally we have build parties and usually they have all the necessary tools to have ak's built.

I want your thoughts, opionions or suggestions! Have anyone of guys built your own AK? How would you say it compares to say a wasr or even a arsenal ak's. (quality of the build, finish and how does it shot )

Here's one of the kit i may get, but it is pricey.

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WOW that's a nice arsenal. It's a milled rec right?

It's a little pricey for an AK. I know that milled ones are more expensive plus it's a kvar.

How many rounds do you have through it and how old is it by the way?

And is this the warsaw or nato size buttstock?

You said that you don't have the "thread protector"! what is that by the way?

If i did decide to buy you would have to put a solar tactical 2 bullet button on that sucker in order for you to ship it to cali to my ffl unfortunately.


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I'm thinking about building my own AK47 kit. I have posted on other forums so i can get some opionions (It would be my first AK and first to have one built. But i have shot ak's before)

I'm getting that its better to buy a pre built ak cause it will be cheaper and less of a pain in the *** to build one. Or get a wasr and have rifle dynamics upgrade the wasr. But since i live in cali, with ffl fee's, shipping charges, bullet button, i'll end up paying over 1k if i go this route. Hell i'll end up paying the same to have one built. But i won't have to go through an FFL dealer and i can buy my own aftermarket kits.

I don't have any tools but occasionally we have build parties and usually they have all the necessary tools to have ak's built.

I want your thoughts, opionions or suggestions! Have anyone of guys built your own AK? How would you say it compares to say a wasr or even a arsenal ak's. (quality of the build, finish and how does it shot )

Here's one of the kit i may get, but it is pricey.

1969 Izhmash AKM Parts Kit
Its not cheap to send out, but if you are good with tools and have access to a press then its pretty cheap to convert a Saiga into a traditional AK yourself. The parts are easy to get, just have to make sure it stays ATF complaint since its an imported weapon. In stock form, Saiga's are surprisingly accurate and its a brand new, Russian AK.
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