Want advice from the military guys

oleg · 04-12-2012, 10:27 PM

^ the question there would be, was it worth it? If you got to restart from 18 again would you have gone the education way or the military way again?
As far as what i would like to do, architecture is something that i would absolutely love to get into but making 40k a year in an unstable job doesn't seem like a very smart choice and I bet getting a job out of school will not be easy either.

Rooster89 · 04-12-2012, 11:53 PM

Can't believe I've missed this thread. If you can, go national guard, and do ROTC. Best path IMHO and I wished I had taken it.

4 years Army Aviation. I was an AH-64D Armament, Electrical, and Avionics system repairer.

Again, if you go reserve/guard and do ROTC, you get the GI Bill IIRC or Student Loan Repayment, you start out as an officer and it really looks phenominal on a resume.

Hawk6 · 04-13-2012, 01:12 PM

Would I do it all over... If I had or I should say at age 18, my parents had the resources to send me straight to college or I wasn't a dumb *** know it all kid... I would have went straight to college and that's the honest truth! Call me I can't say that enough because I am sure you have tons of questions and recruiters are used car salesmen (no offense to anyone) but there shady

eastwest2300 · 04-15-2012, 01:45 AM

Im not sure about non us citizens getting federal positions with the federal govt, its something I'd inquire about.

PapoZalsa · 04-15-2012, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by eastwest2300

Im not sure about non us citizens getting federal positions with the federal govt, its something I'd inquire about.

I don't know the OP status...but to join the person has to be at least a Permanent Resident of the US.

However the Armed Forces has a program that he/she can be a US Citizen within 3 yrs or less of active duty service I think. This program was established after 9/11.

mannyz · 04-15-2012, 03:34 PM

IMO from the introduction of your first paragraph you shouldn't enlist at all. You should maybe spend some time doing school or college, something you will like and when you mature a bit and know more about the world then join the Arm Forces. It will help you make a better decision and a more straight line of thinking from where you at right now.

eastwest2300 · 04-15-2012, 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by PapoZalsa

I don't know the OP status...but to join the person has to be at least a Permanent Resident of the US.

However the Armed Forces has a program that he/she can be a US Citizen within 3 yrs or less of active duty service I think. This program was established after 9/11.

Im in the federal govt, and Im pretty sure you gotta be a naturalized US citizen to get a federal job... i may be wrong. I dont know for a fact.

PapoZalsa · 04-15-2012, 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by oleg

^ the question there would be, was it worth it? If you got to restart from 18 again would you have gone the education way or the military way again?
As far as what i would like to do, architecture is something that i would absolutely love to get into but making 40k a year in an unstable job doesn't seem like a very smart choice and I bet getting a job out of school will not be easy either.

I served in Active Duty for over 20 yrs and proud of it. However, I would never drop out of college and get mine education with full scolarship that I had, but I flushed down the drain.

If you go to college you still have the poortunity to join the ROTC and when you get your degree you can come in as an officer. Anyway I would go with education.

Are you saying an archictecture makes 40K a yr?

eastwest2300 · 04-15-2012, 09:17 PM

Man, if I could do it all over again, I woulda listened to my mom and joined the air force but I joined the army instead and did 8 years, got out and went to FSU, and got my degree.

Hawk6 · 04-19-2012, 08:11 PM

The other problem your going to run into is that your not going to be qualified for some MOS's due to you needing a secret or Top secret clearence as you stated you are not an actual citizen yet... Just being honest. Like I told ya before go to college your going to be better off

Hawk6 · 04-19-2012, 08:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oleg

^ the question there would be, was it worth it? If you got to restart from 18 again would you have gone the education way or the military way again?
As far as what i would like to do, architecture is something that i would absolutely love to get into but making 40k a year in an unstable job doesn't seem like a very smart choice and I bet getting a job out of school will not be easy either.

Ok here's another thing to consider... Getting a job now
A days as a combat veteran is not easy either. I'm happy I'm retired cause I have been on too many job interviews and they all same the same... "Well you seem to be just right for the job but... Oh wait, you have been in combat I see... Um honestly you may be over qualified for this position". Yea I love hearing that one over and over again. That's why I'm in college now at age 40!

Isamu · 04-20-2012, 04:02 AM

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Originally Posted by XwChriswX

Crypto-linguist.

Air Force and Navy both have excellent Crypto-Linguist programs. You can also fly if you want to. The military allows you to take a quick test of your language skills (no limit to how many) and if you demonstrate a certain proficientcy level in any of them, you get extra pay for it. (Not that it's about the money like you said, but let's face it, you've got a gifted tongue

)

After the military, any major 3 letter agency (NSA, CIA, FBI) would pick you up and you'll definitely make that 80k you're looking for.

If that's not the route you'd like to go, the Navy's Nuclear Engineering program is WELL known for setting people up for life. You do however many years you want in, and afterwards you're having several Power companies begging for your service.

Lastly, Air Traffic Control, if you're interested in that. It's an officially rated position that when you come out, any major airport would love to have you. Guaranteed 6 figures starting.

Hope that's a good start.

QFT

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Originally Posted by eastwest2300

Man, if I could do it all over again, I woulda listened to my mom and joined the air force but I joined the army instead and did 8 years, got out and went to FSU, and got my degree.

That's what everyone says... lol

I have more to say, but I will bite my tongue as I don't know you...

MightyBobo · 04-22-2012, 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by ZCarMan

If you want guaranteed 80K plus after an enlistment, look into anything Cyber related, Computer Networking, Engineering, Security, etc. These are highly sought after everywhere but particularly in the D.C. area as the federal government can't get enough qualified IT and Cyber Security types. All branches have established pipelines so you'd have to look at what they are offering. Get your citizenship while in the armed forces, then get all the training you can while in whatever branch and you'll also gain what most other IT college grads won't have, experience. Good luck and thanks for serving!

x2. Its where the real money (and future) is.

Specifically, I would suggest (if going enlisted), the 1N2 or 1B4 career fields, and requesting Fort Meade as your first base. Also, Arabic linguists are always in high demand (I dont believe you mentioned WHAT languages you were fluent in...).

You can thank me 4-6 years from your enlistment when you get out making 6 figures.

mickey · 04-26-2012, 09:52 PM

I think you have plenty of opinions of what to do and that's good, so i will give you my opinion of what not to do. Dont join the marine corps, and if for what ever reason you decide the marine corps is for you don't be a grunt.

USMCram · 04-26-2012, 10:09 PM

While I love the Marine Corps, he is correct about not bring a grunt. Its miserable. Fun....but miserable. I will say this though, there is still room in the Marines for intelligence, and still careers that provide you with skills you can user when you get out. The AF and squids do have more to offer though.

Semper Fidelis.

Sent from my MB855 using Tapatalk 2

04-12-2012, 10:27 PM	#16 (permalink)
oleg Enthusiast Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Illinois Posts: 321 Drives: 2011 370z 6mt sp Rep Power: 14	^ the question there would be, was it worth it? If you got to restart from 18 again would you have gone the education way or the military way again? As far as what i would like to do, architecture is something that i would absolutely love to get into but making 40k a year in an unstable job doesn't seem like a very smart choice and I bet getting a job out of school will not be easy either. Last edited by oleg; 04-12-2012 at 10:38 PM.

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eastwest2300 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2010 Location: South FL Posts: 90,815 Drives: '16QX70/'21 Supra3.0 Rep Power: 2684549	Im not sure about non us citizens getting federal positions with the federal govt, its something I'd inquire about. __________________ Infiniti QX70 & Toyota Supra 3.0 Premium

04-15-2012, 03:34 PM	#21 (permalink)
mannyz Enthusiast Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 354 Drives: a car Rep Power: 278	IMO from the introduction of your first paragraph you shouldn't enlist at all. You should maybe spend some time doing school or college, something you will like and when you mature a bit and know more about the world then join the Arm Forces. It will help you make a better decision and a more straight line of thinking from where you at right now. __________________

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eastwest2300 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2010 Location: South FL Posts: 90,815 Drives: '16QX70/'21 Supra3.0 Rep Power: 2684549	Man, if I could do it all over again, I woulda listened to my mom and joined the air force but I joined the army instead and did 8 years, got out and went to FSU, and got my degree. __________________ Infiniti QX70 & Toyota Supra 3.0 Premium

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04-13-2012, 01:12 PM	#18 (permalink)
Hawk6 Base Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Vero Beach, Fl Posts: 125 Drives: 2012 370Z Blk Cherry Rep Power: 13	Would I do it all over... If I had or I should say at age 18, my parents had the resources to send me straight to college or I wasn't a dumb *** know it all kid... I would have went straight to college and that's the honest truth! Call me I can't say that enough because I am sure you have tons of questions and recruiters are used car salesmen (no offense to anyone) but there shady

04-19-2012, 08:11 PM	#25 (permalink)
Hawk6 Base Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Vero Beach, Fl Posts: 125 Drives: 2012 370Z Blk Cherry Rep Power: 13	The other problem your going to run into is that your not going to be qualified for some MOS's due to you needing a secret or Top secret clearence as you stated you are not an actual citizen yet... Just being honest. Like I told ya before go to college your going to be better off

04-26-2012, 09:52 PM	#29 (permalink)
mickey Base Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: california Posts: 66 Drives: 10 nissan 370z Rep Power: 13	I think you have plenty of opinions of what to do and that's good, so i will give you my opinion of what not to do. Dont join the marine corps, and if for what ever reason you decide the marine corps is for you don't be a grunt.

04-26-2012, 10:09 PM	#30 (permalink)
USMCram Track Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Texas Posts: 522 Drives: 2019 718 Cayman Rep Power: 3369	While I love the Marine Corps, he is correct about not bring a grunt. Its miserable. Fun....but miserable. I will say this though, there is still room in the Marines for intelligence, and still careers that provide you with skills you can user when you get out. The AF and squids do have more to offer though. Semper Fidelis. Sent from my MB855 using Tapatalk 2