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Originally Posted by JARblue I'm not missing the point. I'm just pointing out that I don't have to identify the person to dislike their actions. I don't look at people

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Old 06-02-2020, 05:33 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I'm not missing the point. I'm just pointing out that I don't have to identify the person to dislike their actions. I don't look at people in the airport and get pissed because I think they are lying about their service animal. In truth, IDGAF what they do if it doesn't disturb me or others. But I can still be against the idea of being disingenuous to make money off someone trying to deceive a business.

Hotrodz is spot on. My primary issue with these people is their animals are often ill-behaved. At that point, IDGAF if your dog is a service animal or not - if it's being disruptive in public, I'm going to think you're a disrespectful jerkass, and even more so if you lied about your service animal.
We are all against profiting off lies and cheating, at least I hope so. But while you are not bothered by someone who is disabled but “looks able”, there are many many folks who are and that leads to quite a bit of discrimination.

No ones service or Support animal should or is allowed to be disruptive in public or a business. Treat them like a human patron/citizen, you disrupt a restaurant, you get told to leave, if your animal does same, same outcome. Real service and support animals are trained and are very rarely disruptive. And on the rare occasion it happens, the person almost always is super embarrassed and voluntarily leaves.

You can tell the fakers not just bc the animals are poorly behaved but also bc the humans act rude and entitled.
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But while you are not bothered by someone who is disabled but “looks able”, there are many many folks who are and that leads to quite a bit of discrimination.
People like to judge others. I don't understand why being discriminatory and negative is better than trying to understand from their perspective.

I deal with accessibility building codes for a living. It's amazing how often I tell someone a code requirement and they say it's the most ridiculous thing they've ever heard of. Then I explain how the requirement actually removes the architectural barrier and makes the element accessible to people with certain disabilities they hadn't thought of. All of a sudden it's ok.

Why does something have to be ridiculous just because you don't understand it?
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People like to judge others. I don't understand why being discriminatory and negative is better than trying to understand from their perspective.

I deal with accessibility building codes for a living. It's amazing how often I tell someone a code requirement and they say it's the most ridiculous thing they've ever heard of. Then I explain how the requirement actually removes the architectural barrier and makes the element accessible to people with certain disabilities they hadn't thought of. All of a sudden it's ok.

Why does something have to be ridiculous just because you don't understand it?
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People like to judge others. I don't understand why being discriminatory and negative is better than trying to understand from their perspective.



I deal with accessibility building codes for a living. It's amazing how often I tell someone a code requirement and they say it's the most ridiculous thing they've ever heard of. Then I explain how the requirement actually removes the architectural barrier and makes the element accessible to people with certain disabilities they hadn't thought of. All of a sudden it's ok.



Why does something have to be ridiculous just because you don't understand it?
So spot on! In my current position I deal with this all the time as the COO for my company. You the regulations surrounding an inpatient psychiatric facility are pretty much unattainable but we do it and we allow service dogs within the unit.

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