Good handguns

dad · 11-17-2010, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert

Whatever you get, I think a first handgun should be 9mm. That way you will go and shoot it more as ammo is cheaper, recoil is less, etc. If you don't train with it enough to put the lead on target when it counts, caliber doesn't matter one bit.

Well, if you examine shooting statistics you will see that officers hit the subject somewhere around 20-30% of the time. Thus 70-80% of shots fired never hit their intended target!

ImportConvert · 11-17-2010, 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by SmoothZ

I voted for the shotgun for close quarter combat shooting. Actually, I'd like to have the handgun on standby if I'm going to use the shotgun as my primary before running out of ammo.

I think the G19 would be best. The reason is that the OP is on a $500 budged and a G19 can have a light attatched to do duty at home, and a holster purchased to carry. You can't carry an 870 so well. The G19 will fulfill home-defence and CCW roles. If the OP had a bigger budget, I would say a G19 and an 870P would be a GREAT combo.

SmoothZ · 11-17-2010, 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by 370zproject

lol

to many movies my friend

Okay... you hide behind the drywall while I hide behind a concrete one. We'll see who gets shot first.

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert

I think the G19 would be best. The reason is that the OP is on a $500 budged and a G19 can have a light attatched to do duty at home, and a holster purchased to carry. You can't carry an 870 so well. The G19 will fulfill home-defence and CCW roles. If the OP had a bigger budget, I would say a G19 and an 870P would be a GREAT combo.

Ah, I didn't see that OP wanted something within a budget.

Love the 870.

370zproject · 11-17-2010, 09:09 PM

870?

SmoothZ · 11-17-2010, 09:14 PM

When I think 870, I visualize the 870 shotgun. I have a Remington 870.

ImportConvert · 11-17-2010, 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by dad

Well, if you examine shooting statistics you will see that officers hit the subject somewhere around 20-30% of the time. Thus 70-80% of shots fired never hit their intended target!

I have seen a lot of them shoot. I'm not suprised.

This is why I carry a 9mm and practice often. With the regular practice, I am more likely to hit. With the 9mm, I get more chances to hit (as opposed to a .40 or .45)

370zproject · 11-18-2010, 01:59 AM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert

I have seen a lot of them shoot. I'm not suprised.

This is why I carry a 9mm and practice often. With the regular practice, I am more likely to hit. With the 9mm, I get more chances to hit (as opposed to a .40 or .45)

i like this guy

VABAM · 11-18-2010, 06:13 AM

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Originally Posted by JollyGoodChap

I thought only rappers called magazines "clips"
Clips vs. Magazines

This is a clip:

This is a magazine

just saying...

Firearm term Nazi strikes again!!!

If you hadn't it would have been me.

VABAM · 11-18-2010, 07:12 AM

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Originally Posted by SmoothZ

When I think 870, I visualize the 870 shotgun. I have a Remington 870.

Rem. 870 FTW.

I got one too.
Great shotguns, cheap and reliable!!
Also there are a lot of "bolt-ons" (sorry couldn't resist

) for them.
Here is a pic of mine.

bullitt5897 · 11-18-2010, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert

I have seen a lot of them shoot. I'm not suprised.

This is why I carry a 9mm and practice often. With the regular practice, I am more likely to hit. With the 9mm, I get more chances to hit (as opposed to a .40 or .45)

I feel you! I have friends in law enforcement and they SUCK at shooting!!! I was like how the hell did they give you a gun...

I will stand behind them and use them as shields lol

Practice makes perfect and shooting is a finesse sport... I participate in tactical tower matches against folks ranging from military to law enforcement to avg joe's like me... .45 is definitely not the easiest for the pistol section especially going weak hand that can be tough unless you train shooting lefty. We shoot at 4" targets ranging from 15-30yds in some of the most uncomfortable yet practical shooting positions you would ever find yourself in. And its all about making sure you hit the target I learned after my first match "Smooth is fast" rushing your shots is the difference between 1st and 5th! I know I got 5th

What seems like an eternity getting correct sight alignment is only about a half sec to a sec in real life. Like everyone of the shooters here has said the best way to find the right caliber and or gun is to: shoot shoot shoot and after that shoot some more! Then decide for yourself ohh i like this gun or this caliber the best. Each gun will have features you will love or hate shooting and holding them is the only way to know which is best...

I personally love single stage triggers and I HATE... with a passion double stage triggers. to me the pull is way too long and switching from my rifle to my pistol I want the pull to be identical... short, clean and crisp! 3lb trigger pull on all my guns

ImportConvert · 11-18-2010, 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by bullitt5897

I feel you! I have friends in law enforcement and they SUCK at shooting!!! I was like how the hell did they give you a gun...

I will stand behind them and use them as shields lol

Practice makes perfect and shooting is a finesse sport... I participate in tactical tower matches against folks ranging from military to law enforcement to avg joe's like me... .45 is definitely not the easiest for the pistol section especially going weak hand that can be tough unless you train shooting lefty. We shoot at 4" targets ranging from 15-30yds in some of the most uncomfortable yet practical shooting positions you would ever find yourself in. And its all about making sure you hit the target I learned after my first match "Smooth is fast" rushing your shots is the difference between 1st and 5th! I know I got 5th

What seems like an eternity getting correct sight alignment is only about a half sec to a sec in real life. Like everyone of the shooters here has said the best way to find the right caliber and or gun is to: shoot shoot shoot and after that shoot some more! Then decide for yourself ohh i like this gun or this caliber the best. Each gun will have features you will love or hate shooting and holding them is the only way to know which is best...

I personally love single stage triggers and I HATE... with a passion double stage triggers. to me the pull is way too long and switching from my rifle to my pistol I want the pull to be identical... short, clean and crisp! 3lb trigger pull on all my guns

I am odd. I like Glock's trigger and shoot to the reset. If you do that, it is a pretty short pull and it NEVER changes feel like my SA/DA sig. The SIG was polished up by Torie of GGI and feels great. I would guestimate it at around 4# and very crisp in SA.

370zproject · 11-18-2010, 11:40 AM

hmm

JollyGoodChap · 11-18-2010, 01:17 PM

my usp .45, my first handgun

370zproject · 11-18-2010, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by JollyGoodChap

my usp .45, my first handgun

sexy

HKYStormFront · 11-18-2010, 02:58 PM

my fav recently has been the XD40, i liked it a lot but it's not on that list. also, i have only shot a handful (no pun intended) of those guns you have listed so it's hard for me to say what's the best out of those.

View Poll Results: best personal gun for home
Taurus .357	2	2.44%
Sig P220	11	13.41%
Springfield XD-9	9	10.98%
HKS USP .45	13	15.85%
Ruger P90	4	4.88%
shotgun	10	12.20%
357 Sig	4	4.88%
Smith and Wesson M&P series	6	7.32%
Glock 17/19/?	32	39.02%
357SIG	4	4.88%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 82. You may not vote on this poll

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