Rant: Current car commercials

m4a1mustang · 10-19-2010, 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by shadoquad

Ah, but C class is the entry class Benz, which means "I'm paying for the badge alone."

WarmAndSCSI · 10-19-2010, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by shadoquad

Ah, but C class is the entry class Benz, which means "I'm paying for the badge alone."

But it gets better. Go check the specs for E-class and CL-class Benzes. Same sh*t recycled on $60-120k models. The CL600 - a $155,000 car - literally has the same rear brake package as a C300, with some budget 4-piston fixed calipers up front. How pathetic is that? I can't imagine how terribly balanced that braking system is.

m4a1mustang · 10-19-2010, 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by WarmAndSCSI

Great brakes? Excellent tires? I would like to believe that, but I had to go look for myself.

From a C300 SPORT Sedan:

Single piston floating calipers, small rotors, presumably crappy brake pads to reduce noise.

Nothing about an all-season tire coming from an OEM says "performance."

People who buy C class Benzes are delusional. They're utter pieces of crap, from a performance and handling perspective. And the above is on the SPORT Sedan. Even for the C350 - a $40k base price car - the rotors are just larger in diameter up front with the same crappy 1-piston floating calipers and sh*tty tire package. That's pathetic.

They actually aren't that bad. They are just expensive for a small sedan.

We have a CLK500 and it's pretty badass.

370Zsteve · 10-19-2010, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by WarmAndSCSI

Great brakes? Excellent tires? I would like to believe that, but I had to go look for myself.

From a C300 SPORT Sedan:

Single piston floating calipers, small rotors, presumably crappy brake pads to reduce noise.

Nothing about an all-season tire coming from an OEM says "performance."

People who buy C class Benzes are delusional. They're utter pieces of crap, from a performance and handling perspective. And the above is on the SPORT Sedan. Even for the C350 - a $40k base price car - the rotors are just larger in diameter up front with the same crappy 1-piston floating calipers and sh*tty tire package. That's pathetic.

Totally agree. And I'll add that people who buy C-class Benzes can't afford a decent Benz. They'll do anything to get that coveted 3-point star so they can pretend they are wealthy. And "Sport Sedan" is an oxymoron, unless it's an EVO lol

theDreamer · 10-19-2010, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by 370Zsteve

Well, the Mercedes commercial is for a car that has: great brakes, excellent tires, etc. One of the things you mentioned is people falling asleep...the nanny senses your head drooping and sounds a warning chime, not something you're likely to see on a cheap car. I haven't seen a commercial yet for a cheap car that touts things like performance tires and brakes..it's all about skinny tires with less rolling resistance for fuel economy.

I think most of the points have been pointed out about how the car in the commercial really does not have good brakes, tires, etc. They are advertising the new features which are computers driving for humans.

Jeffblue · 10-19-2010, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer

I think most of the points have been pointed out about how the car in the commercial really does not have good brakes, tires, etc. They are advertising the new features which are computers driving for humans.

put a sleepy driver behind the wheel of a volvo, 458 italia, or a lotus, and they are still a hazard. i think the nanny's are just enablers. they make people feel like its ok to drive home if they are dozing off.

shadoquad · 10-19-2010, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeffblue

put a sleepy driver behind the wheel of a volvo, 458 italia, or a lotus, and they are still a hazard. i think the nanny's are just enablers. they make people feel like its ok to drive home if they are dozing off.

This can be said of many modern automotive amenities. ABS, traction control systems, back-up cameras... People only learn to be as sophisticated in operations as the system requires. And I've noticed it in completely different arenas. If machine operation is difficult and somehow requires skill, some people will master it, others will learn just enough to get by, and some will simply operate it at subpar, dangerous levels. If you hand them help in the form of software shortcuts, the masters will become frustrated with whatever sandbox you throw them in, the "just get by" crowd learns less and becomes less sophisticated, and the subpar people are somewhat buoyed up by the nanny systems, but are nonetheless still terrible operators, because they don't understand what it is they're supposed to be doing.

WarmAndSCSI · 10-19-2010, 11:26 AM

Ha, and the CL550 - a $110,000 "sports" car - has 255-width All-Season tires all around stock. That's kind of pathetic, TBH.

m4a1mustang · 10-19-2010, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by WarmAndSCSI

Ha, and the CL550 - a $110,000 "sports" car - has 255-width All-Season tires all around stock. That's kind of pathetic, TBH.

Since when was a CL class a sports car?

WarmAndSCSI · 10-19-2010, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

Since when was a CL class a sports car?

How is a $110k coupe with a 400 bhp engine not a sports car?

lol and did you know the 600 bhp CL65 AMG has a curb weight of 4940 lb. WOW what a pig.

m4a1mustang · 10-19-2010, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by WarmAndSCSI

How is a $110k coupe with a 400 bhp engine not a sports car?

lol and did you know the 600 bhp CL65 AMG has a curb weight of 4940 lb. WOW what a pig.

Like I said, the good Mercedes are autobahn and 1/4 mile whores.

shadoquad · 10-19-2010, 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by WarmAndSCSI

How is a $110k coupe with a 400 bhp engine not a sports car?

lol and did you know the 600 bhp CL65 AMG has a curb weight of 4940 lb. WOW what a pig.

I've felt that way about Merc for years. Bimmers, too. Overweight, so how do we sell it as sporty? Put a ridiculously powerful engine in there. Same philosophy as muscle cars had. But still... Muscle cars shouldn't cost 100k and arrive on all-season rubber.

WarmAndSCSI · 10-19-2010, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by shadoquad

I've felt that way about Merc for years. Bimmers, too. Overweight, so how do we sell it as sporty? Put a ridiculously powerful engine in there. Same philosophy as muscle cars had. But still... Muscle cars shouldn't cost 100k and arrive on all-season rubber.

BMW believes in good handling, weight distribution, and douchebaggery though. What does MB tout?

m4a1mustang · 10-19-2010, 11:28 AM

The good Mercedes are autobahn or 1/4 mile whores.

WarmAndSCSI · 10-19-2010, 11:33 AM

lol, the braking package on the $48k SLK300 Roadster:

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Dual-circuit power-assisted 4-wheel disc brakes. 11.8" ventilated front discs and 10.9" solid rear discs. Single-piston floating front and dual-piston fixed rear calipers

SOLID rear discs, and single piston floating front calipers? 10.9" rear brakes? A Camry has more braking power than this thing.

I seriously do not get the allure of Mercedes Benz. Their cars are crap for performance unless they wear an AMG badge. No wonder they need so many driver aids.

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