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Old 06-21-2010, 03:07 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Your post started out good, but this whole "let police do their job" attitude is the wrong one to have. Police are there as a response unit (i.e. after the fact), and personally I'm not going to put my lives in their hands as I sit and wait helpless in my own home. It's a shame that you feel something as simple and common as home defense is "crazy".
Well you are qouting me wrong!! I never said home defense was "crazy", so I don't know where are you getting that from. A security system has been the best money a have ever spent to protect my home and family.

I was referring to the police like you stated as a response unit in case someone has attempted to get in your property or something might seem wrong to you.

Again, learn the law of your state for your own protection.

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Well you are qouting me wrong!! I never said home defense was "crazy", so I don't know where are you getting that from. A security system has been the best money a have ever spent to protect my home and family.

I was referring to the police like you stated as a response unit in case someone has attempted to get in your property or something might seem wrong to you.

Again, learn the law of your state for your own protection.

Sorry, I tried to help!
Fair enough, you said "Guns and other crazy stufff that we might think about will depend on the laws of the state, so be careful.". When you lump guns in with "crazy stuff" you are saying home defense (i.e. weapons) is "crazy". I'm not quoting you wrong, you said it wrong then. Just sayin'.
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If I felt threatened enough to grab the loaded 12 gauge leaning against my bedside table, I wouldn't trust to police to get there in time. Check your state's laws and I'd recommend a shotgun; 12 gauge if you can. Load it with some double-ought buckshot and call it a day. As far as security systems, German Shepherd FTW. I love mine.
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Good neighbors, large dogs that bark, and the final defense - a shotgun.
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I do have an ADT alarm sign up in the front yard. I also have attack (ahem) cats . I don't tend to have any problems with people poking around the house, but others in the neighborhood are complaining and I'm not going to get caught flat footed. As, all of you have noted, I don't have to be the fastest runner, just fast enough to not be the slowest. The sign, flood lights, quality locks, and as a last resort, a 12 gauge seems appropriate.

I know, I know, the pump is the key sound to a shotgun that strikes fear into all that see down the barrel, but I'm more of an O/U guy. I always said, if I can't hit it in 2, I shouldn't be out there anyway.

Thanks for the advice - good to hear ideas and confirm current ones.

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Handguns work better in close quarters. That said, if you have a gun handy for defense, you also have a gun handy for getting stollen (bad) or found by the kids if you have any (worse).

On the other hand, nothin' says "get out" like a baseball bat. Inexpensive too, and won't accidentially bludgeon anyone across the street while handling it
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Handguns work better in close quarters. That said, if you have a gun handy for defense, you also have a gun handy for getting stollen (bad) or found by the kids if you have any (worse).

Not true. I lock my pistols in a bolted down safe when I leave the house, but when I get home I pull them out and make them "available". Pistol safes that can be bolted to the ground are not that expensive, and get the job done. Where there is a will, there is a way. I don't have kids yet, so I cant argue the second part.
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Not true. I lock my pistols in a bolted down safe when I leave the house, but when I get home I pull them out and make them "available". Pistol safes that can be bolted to the ground are not that expensive, and get the job done. Where there is a will, there is a way. I don't have kids yet, so I cant argue the second part.
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Hire some ninjas....

ok not really, but for my HD, I have 19rds of 9mm JHP in a dedicated mag. that I leave out next to the pistol for my xdm9. Will anyone break in, don't know, but it does not hurt to be prepared.
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Not true. I lock my pistols in a bolted down safe when I leave the house, but when I get home I pull them out and make them "available". Pistol safes that can be bolted to the ground are not that expensive, and get the job done. Where there is a will, there is a way. I don't have kids yet, so I cant argue the second part.
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scans your fingerprint to open, keeps pesky intruders from using your gun on you whilst allowing you very quick access to use it on them.


Fair enough -- and good for you guys for being very responsible about it

I know a guy who is a landlord and when he has to collect rent, some of the neighborhoods are sketchy, so he carries a gun in his car...

He's had them stollen from the car (locked in glovebox in a small case) -- TWICE
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