Considering the Army.

Red370 · 04-28-2010, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by 370Zsteve

That's a great post, especially the last 3 sentences. The only thing I can add is the obvious. You might get killed. Not trying to buzzkill, either. Serving your country is the highest form of dedication to your fellow countrymen.

And when you first enlist, really really concentrate on the written exams they give you. Go Navy! Beat Army!

alright gentlemen, this thread has gotten way off track, this isnt a comparison of who can make more and what have you, and no, im not a recruiter, I simply outlined the benefits of joining my particular branch of service and why I think he would stand to benefit more in my particular branch. There isnt a single job that the air force offers thats more technically involved than any army job, aside from being a pilot, which might I add, requires a degree (pilots must be officers). And as far as the Navy beating Army.. who cares, academy football is weak. Go BUCKEYES, BEAT EVERYBODY!!!

Florida_GATOR · 04-28-2010, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Red370

alright gentlemen, this thread has gotten way off track, this isnt a comparison of who can make more and what have you, and no, im not a recruiter, I simply outlined the benefits of joining my particular branch of service and why I think he would stand to benefit more in my particular branch. There isnt a single job that the air force offers thats more technically involved than any army job, aside from being a pilot, which might I add, requires a degree (pilots must be officers). And as far as the Navy beating Army.. who cares, academy football is weak. Go BUCKEYES, BEAT EVERYBODY!!!

HAHA Anybody exept a team in the SEC

Red370 · 04-28-2010, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Florida_GATOR

HAHA Anybody exept a team in the SEC

Coming from a guy who's team wont win another title for 20 years

Our team is returning with 95% of the Rose Bowl winning team, you guys lost your entire team, your figurehead QB, and your head coach

370Zsteve · 04-28-2010, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Red370

alright gentlemen, this thread has gotten way off track, this isnt a comparison of who can make more and what have you, and no, im not a recruiter, I simply outlined the benefits of joining my particular branch of service and why I think he would stand to benefit more in my particular branch. There isnt a single job that the air force offers thats more technically involved than any army job, aside from being a pilot, which might I add, requires a degree (pilots must be officers). And as far as the Navy beating Army.. who cares, academy football is weak. Go BUCKEYES, BEAT EVERYBODY!!!

Haha Red, just a weak joke and oh yeah academy football sucks lol GO ARMY!

04-28-2010, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by 370Zsteve

And when you first enlist, really really concentrate on the written exams they give you.

This! If I had paid more attention and tried harder I would have made it to flight school. I was 2 points short and they wouldnt budge.

Red370 · 04-28-2010, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by PapoZalsa

I don't think so, check your facts. Deployments to war and that extra money you get doesn't have anything to do with your retirement. Unless you Retired CSM with like 28 yrs in the Army you will not be getting $3,000 a month in retirement.

I did over 20 yrs Active Duty and don't get pay close to $3,000 a month.

Actually my warrant packet recently got accepted, i'll be retiring as a W3 minimum, YES, I will be collecting 3k a month for sitting on my ass or more, man you guys are experts here. None of you know me or my life, I gave the guy info on what he can accomplish with his career, thanks for the advice. And as far as the Army not having technical careers...Military Intelligence comes with a top secret clearance, and there are countless jobs in that field. You could also be a topographic surveyor... there are tons of communications jobs, satellite communications, fiber optic repair, etc. Flight Officer of an Apache helicopter (no air force stamp on that buddy), the possibilities are endless, dont listen to the AF or Navy BS when it comes to technical jobs, being an in flight fueler just SCREAMS technical to me... Oh, maybe you can be an F16 mechanic or a load master! lmao.

04-27-2010, 10:15 AM

^ They wanted to give me like a $40,000 bonus for special forces haha

Red370 · 04-27-2010, 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by blue660r01

^ They wanted to give me like a $40,000 bonus for special forces haha

shyt man, they are offering SF guys 70K+ just to reenlist in the warzone, insanity.

dad · 04-27-2010, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Red370

shyt man, they are offering SF guys 70K+ just to reenlist in the warzone, insanity.

I hear Afghanistan is very pretty this time of the year!

JB-370z · 04-27-2010, 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Red370

shyt man, they are offering SF guys 70K+ just to reenlist in the warzone, insanity.

My life is worth more than 70k. However I got a buddy that is fl_lcked up in the head from being in war. Well two buddies, and the acohol flows everytime I see them. They pay one of them 2k a month as long as he goes and sees a shrink once a month. I guess its not a bad deal if you dont have to go to war and stay away from bad habbits that are brought on by boardom and other physical and mental hurdles. Also if you like the ladys good luck meeting them on the daily, well unless you like going the cyber route.
Its for some, and if you dont have it in you to take another route to sucsess or stability than it might be an option worth looking into. Whatever you do buddy I wish you luck.

STi 5 · 04-27-2010, 03:19 PM

I guess it all depends on what you like to do, what would your ideal job be in the military? Then let that determine what branch you would want to go in. If you wanna fly helicopters...well, the Army is your best bet. If you wanna be on the front lines w/ a rifle in your hands, then go for the Marines. If you want to work with computers, or fly the latest cutting edge fighters, go for the Air Force, Etc Etc Etc. Don't listen to the clowns that say "your not a man unless you are a grunt." That is complete and utter horse****. Not everyone enjoys the sound of bullets flying over their head, me included. I've been in the Air Force for 12 years now and assembling the bombs, missiles, and loading bullets for the F-16 in the rear with the gear is fine by me. Make fun of me all you want, but I love my job just fine.

Worst thing you can do is going into something like this, enlist in a certain service and job and hate it for 4-6 years. Think long and hard about what YOU want to do now and in the future, cause chances are, if your job carries over into the private sector, you can also make good money doing the same thing you liked doing on the inside.

Good luck with whatever you decide to do!

dad · 04-27-2010, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by STi 5

I guess it all depends on what you like to do, what would your ideal job be in the military? Then let that determine what branch you would want to go in. If you wanna fly helicopters...well, the Army is your best bet. If you wanna be on the front lines w/ a rifle in your hands, then go for the Marines. If you want to work with computers, or fly the latest cutting edge fighters, go for the Air Force, Etc Etc Etc. Don't listen to the clowns that say "your not a man unless you are a grunt." That is complete and utter horse****. Not everyone enjoys the sound of bullets flying over their head, me included. I've been in the Air Force for 12 years now and assembling the bombs, missiles, and loading bullets for the F-16 in the rear with the gear is fine by me. Make fun of me all you want, but I love my job just fine.

Worst thing you can do is going into something like this, enlist in a certain service and job and hate it for 4-6 years. Think long and hard about what YOU want to do now and in the future, cause chances are, if your job carries over into the private sector, you can also make good money doing the same thing you liked doing on the inside.

Good luck with whatever you decide to do!

Your doing you duty, and that is what counts!

But damn, we missed out on retiring at age 37, and getting $3,000.00 a month for life!

zentropy · 04-27-2010, 04:07 PM

I appreciate everyone's responses thus far. Its an important to decision and i'm not taking it lightly. I was originally only interested in hearing about the Army in specific but because i'd like something more technical I am considering the Air Force as well. My dad is retired USAF and so I am familiar with the retiring at 38 idea. Please keep your comments coming.

Matt · 04-27-2010, 07:45 PM

I got out of the military after about 6 years. Honestly, it was the best decision I ever made in my life.

Now that I'm out, I'm 27, fully trained in Networking / Information Technology, and making great money. Not only that, but the values you live while in the military, should you take them seriously, follow you for life....and people notice.

As Red said, pick your job and stick to your guns. Score high enough on the ASVAB, and you shouldn't have a problem getting the job you want.

Go in knowing that Basic and AIT are going to be more mental than physical, and learn to listen well and pay attention to details.

If you end up retiring, lucky you. I work with nearly all retirees, and seeing how well-off they are with a retirement check, VA benefits, AND a huge contracting paycheck makes me so jealous. I was medically chaptered, so I didn't really get the option to stay in for 20.

Good luck. It'll change your life.

Lemers · 04-27-2010, 08:20 PM

Red370 said a lot of the advise I tell my soldiers. Main thing treat it like buying a car. Research it, don't just listen to the recruiter (salesman). Know your goals going into it. Different goals could be 20 yrs and retire to 4 yrs for the GI Bill for college. Some jobs are more marketable in the civilian world than others, but they all teach yu work ethics and leadership. If you do enlist don't enlist for long periods. Things in your life may change but also reenlistments give you chances to move, go to school, or get another bonus. Always remember military service is a life style not a job. When you're in the military it's 24/7.

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zentropy Enthusiast Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Irving, Texas Posts: 407 Drives: 2013 Ford Focus ST Rep Power: 16	I appreciate everyone's responses thus far. Its an important to decision and i'm not taking it lightly. I was originally only interested in hearing about the Army in specific but because i'd like something more technical I am considering the Air Force as well. My dad is retired USAF and so I am familiar with the retiring at 38 idea. Please keep your comments coming. __________________ Stillen CBStillen G3Stillen bumperCobb HFCTein BasicsVossen CV35% TintLED Bulbs http://www.facebook.com/groups/The370ZDfw http://www.facebook.com/paul.lum

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Matt A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Augusta, GA Age: 42 Posts: 1,680 Drives: 2010 Avalanche LT Rep Power: 19	I got out of the military after about 6 years. Honestly, it was the best decision I ever made in my life. Now that I'm out, I'm 27, fully trained in Networking / Information Technology, and making great money. Not only that, but the values you live while in the military, should you take them seriously, follow you for life....and people notice. As Red said, pick your job and stick to your guns. Score high enough on the ASVAB, and you shouldn't have a problem getting the job you want. Go in knowing that Basic and AIT are going to be more mental than physical, and learn to listen well and pay attention to details. If you end up retiring, lucky you. I work with nearly all retirees, and seeing how well-off they are with a retirement check, VA benefits, AND a huge contracting paycheck makes me so jealous. I was medically chaptered, so I didn't really get the option to stay in for 20. Good luck. It'll change your life. __________________ "Any man who can drive a 370z while kissing a pretty girl is simply not giving the Z the attention it deserves." Albert Einstein....modified.

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Lemers A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Izmir, Turkey Posts: 15,371 Drives: 2012 Traverse LTZ Rep Power: 53	Red370 said a lot of the advise I tell my soldiers. Main thing treat it like buying a car. Research it, don't just listen to the recruiter (salesman). Know your goals going into it. Different goals could be 20 yrs and retire to 4 yrs for the GI Bill for college. Some jobs are more marketable in the civilian world than others, but they all teach yu work ethics and leadership. If you do enlist don't enlist for long periods. Things in your life may change but also reenlistments give you chances to move, go to school, or get another bonus. Always remember military service is a life style not a job. When you're in the military it's 24/7. __________________ 2010 Black Cherry Touring/Sport/Nav Now - 2012 Travese LTZ until I leave for Turkey

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