Considering the Army.

shumby · 04-28-2010, 03:59 PM

well all i know is i make 20K a month in oil and gas and only work 4 weeks out of every 10. plus i don't have to go to war.

shumby · 04-28-2010, 04:03 PM

sorry but this thread was off topic enough

04-28-2010, 04:10 PM

Come on Shumby we all know Canada has no military haha

STi 5 · 04-28-2010, 04:16 PM

He's just bitter he has to sleep in the dirt. Give me a break, Army Intelligence...I'll pass, I know Military Intelligence as a whole is a complete misnomer, but come on. Like I said earlier, if someone wants to fly Helicopters...it's pretty cut and dry what service you go into. Have you ever been in an F-16 cockpit, that's late 50's and early 60's tech with progressive upgrades, if you saw the glass cockpit in an F-35 your jaw would drop. Then when they told you to repair the avionics, you'd look like a monkey trying to F*** a football. I'm not saying I lack any respect for what you do Red370, but everytime you try to come over the top with this "information" about how much better the Army is I seriously LOL. I make 60K a year too, as a WG-10 step 3 but I have never had to step foot into the sandbox or anywhere near there, but the difference is whenever I go on a deployment, I get to double dip, and that is on top of my 60K. Does that make one of us better than the other? I feel like you are trying to make this into a contest, when all the OP needs is FACTUAL information. I will never understand trying to pump yourself up on a forum...who the f*** cares. I'm done with bantering back and forth as it doesn't help the OP with his decision. Lateron.

Lemers · 04-28-2010, 04:20 PM

Papo first off I'm not sensitive. I was just answering your attack on my comment. Second you are the one who seems to be sensitive. You came into the thread attack red370 and then me when neither of us were even talking to you. Why? Are you that desparate for attention which I'm feeding now by even answering you twice?

To anyone else who is questioning red370. Housing allowance is added to your check by month so is any special pay. So times the BAH and special pay by 12 and add to the base pay. That over 60K. Simple math!

NewlyIMPORTed · 04-28-2010, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by shumby

well all i know is i make 20K a month in oil and gas and only work 4 weeks out of every 10. plus i don't have to go to war.

what do you do?

Florida_GATOR · 04-28-2010, 04:34 PM

Go Navy! Beat Army!!

haha

Lemers · 04-28-2010, 04:39 PM

Academy football is a laugh. Just watch what happens when they play real colleges.

Florida_GATOR · 04-28-2010, 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Lemers

Academy football is a laugh. Just watch what happens when they play real colleges.

Navy: 10-4 record and stomped Missou in the Texas bowl...i guess missou's not a real team? or how about Notre Dame?

shumby · 04-28-2010, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by NewlyIMPORTed

what do you do?

Systems Eng. on an off shore platform. GO oil and gas the military can suck it.

370Zsteve · 04-28-2010, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Red370

Why do these always turn into a "Oh man, join my branch" thread? The guy said hes considering joining the ARMY, and would like to know about it, not the navy, not the Air Force, not the Marines.

I've been a soldier for the last 8 years of my life, and I rose through the ranks pretty quickly. At 25 years old, I make 60k+ and enjoy free medical/dental/college benefits (family qualifies for these too), I'd say i'm much further along than many of my peers in life.

All I can say is, dont join a specific branch because you want to collect a paycheck and not have to see combat, thats the pansy way out. If you want to get paid while serving your nation admirably while getting excellent college benefits, you cant go wrong. If anything, i'd say try your damndest to get on a deployment, quick and easy way to come back with 40K+ sitting in your bank account and knock out an associates degree. I've seen it plenty of times, hell I got 19 year old privates driving 7 series BMW's and a Staff Sergeant like myself driving a GT-R. Dont let others sway your decision on your branch based on "if you dont wanna get shot at" or "you'll find more technical fields in this branch" type of comments, the Army has just the same or better opportunities believe me. PM me if you have any questions man. Did I mention that i'll be retiring at 37 years old and collecting a $3,000 paycheck for the rest of my life for sitting on my ass?

My Advice: Go to the recruiter knowing what you want. DO NOT budge from the job you wanna do, if they give you some BS like "we dont have any openings in that field", it is just that, BS. Some jobs have a specific amount of slots that need filled and if there is a shortage in one certain area, they are nudged, if you will, to present you those MOS's and say thats all thats available and thats not true at all. If they claim they cant give you the job that you want, stand up and walk right out, I GUARANTEE they'll call you the next day and some how mysteriously, a job opening has appeared.

Next, make sure you get the duty assignment of your choosing, dont let them stick you in some shyt town in the middle of kansas without you having some say about it. You can have Germany, Hawaii, Italy, Japan, all included in your contract, depending on the job you choose. Pick one and stick to your guns. You can also have things like Airborne school, Ranger, etc. included in the contract as well.

And lastly, GET PAID. Pick a job that you're comfortable with and make sure it includes a bonus, nothing like joining the military with a nice fat $20,000 enlistment bonus coming along with it. Oh and you said you want to do 6 years, NEVER sign up that long for your first enlistment, you may decide that military life isnt for you and be stuck waiting out 2 or 3 years longer than you want. Do 4 years max the first time. And for the love of god, ask your recruiter what you can do to come in with some rank! You can come in as an E4 depending on your civilian education/accomplishments, crazy as it sounds, if you ever attained the "Eagle Scout" ranking in the scouts, you can come in as a specialist, crazy huh?

That's a great post, especially the last 3 sentences. The only thing I can add is the obvious. You might get killed. Not trying to buzzkill, either. Serving your country is the highest form of dedication to your fellow countrymen.

And when you first enlist, really really concentrate on the written exams they give you. Go Navy! Beat Army!

Red370 · 04-28-2010, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by 370Zsteve

That's a great post, especially the last 3 sentences. The only thing I can add is the obvious. You might get killed. Not trying to buzzkill, either. Serving your country is the highest form of dedication to your fellow countrymen.

And when you first enlist, really really concentrate on the written exams they give you. Go Navy! Beat Army!

alright gentlemen, this thread has gotten way off track, this isnt a comparison of who can make more and what have you, and no, im not a recruiter, I simply outlined the benefits of joining my particular branch of service and why I think he would stand to benefit more in my particular branch. There isnt a single job that the air force offers thats more technically involved than any army job, aside from being a pilot, which might I add, requires a degree (pilots must be officers). And as far as the Navy beating Army.. who cares, academy football is weak. Go BUCKEYES, BEAT EVERYBODY!!!

ZCarMan · 04-28-2010, 05:33 PM

ZENTROPY, first off I commend you for considering to serve your country. As a retired enlisted sailor I too joined in order to get out of what I thought was a dead end and to also serve my country. Yes I was a bit patriotic as well as my Father had served a career in the USAF as well learning how to turn wrenches keeping F-86s, F84s, F100s, F-101s and finally RF-101 Voodoos in the air. All I can say is that you should read each post carefully to see the good and the bad and then go find some people you can actually talk with about their experiences. If you want to make money, the military isn't exactly the place to do it, although the military is paying some great money for people during wartime to keep the skills needed to take the fight to the enemy. Its the skils that you learn and are taught that will pay off after your tour in the military. Whatever your decision I applaud your thinking of serving your country during a time of war. My Son is a Marine (Infanty), joined right out of high school in 2003 and found himself in Al Anbar, Ramadi specifically just as the surge was beginning, helping to rid the area of AQ in Iraq and other insurgents. He says he would not have traded the experience for anything. You too will have life changing experiences that will impact your future and how you see the world for the rest of your life. Yes, being in the military means putting your life on the line, but you do that just driving to work every day. Serving your country is an honorable profession whatever you choose. I wish you all the best! Hooah!

Florida_GATOR · 04-28-2010, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Red370

alright gentlemen, this thread has gotten way off track, this isnt a comparison of who can make more and what have you, and no, im not a recruiter, I simply outlined the benefits of joining my particular branch of service and why I think he would stand to benefit more in my particular branch. There isnt a single job that the air force offers thats more technically involved than any army job, aside from being a pilot, which might I add, requires a degree (pilots must be officers). And as far as the Navy beating Army.. who cares, academy football is weak. Go BUCKEYES, BEAT EVERYBODY!!!

HAHA Anybody exept a team in the SEC

04-28-2010, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by 370Zsteve

And when you first enlist, really really concentrate on the written exams they give you.

This! If I had paid more attention and tried harder I would have made it to flight school. I was 2 points short and they wouldnt budge.

04-28-2010, 03:59 PM	#31 (permalink)
shumby Captin Canuck Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: with your mom Age: 45 Posts: 6,288 Drives: your sister Rep Power: 237	well all i know is i make 20K a month in oil and gas and only work 4 weeks out of every 10. plus i don't have to go to war. __________________ Originally Posted by SAM@GTM Engine detonation is not normal and it should never never happen, and whoever told that need to do something else for living . Sam

04-28-2010, 04:03 PM	#32 (permalink)
shumby Captin Canuck Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: with your mom Age: 45 Posts: 6,288 Drives: your sister Rep Power: 237	sorry but this thread was off topic enough __________________ Originally Posted by SAM@GTM Engine detonation is not normal and it should never never happen, and whoever told that need to do something else for living . Sam

04-28-2010, 04:20 PM	#35 (permalink)
Lemers A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Izmir, Turkey Posts: 15,371 Drives: 2012 Traverse LTZ Rep Power: 53	Papo first off I'm not sensitive. I was just answering your attack on my comment. Second you are the one who seems to be sensitive. You came into the thread attack red370 and then me when neither of us were even talking to you. Why? Are you that desparate for attention which I'm feeding now by even answering you twice? To anyone else who is questioning red370. Housing allowance is added to your check by month so is any special pay. So times the BAH and special pay by 12 and add to the base pay. That over 60K. Simple math! __________________ 2010 Black Cherry Touring/Sport/Nav Now - 2012 Travese LTZ until I leave for Turkey

04-28-2010, 04:34 PM	#37 (permalink)
Florida_GATOR Track Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Newport News, VA Posts: 705 Drives: 09 Nissan 370z Blk Rep Power: 17	Go Navy! Beat Army!! haha __________________ MK44 Creed- " Ive got a bullet here with your name on it, and im gonna keep firing till i find out which one it is " Most badass job ever.

04-28-2010, 04:39 PM	#38 (permalink)
Lemers A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Izmir, Turkey Posts: 15,371 Drives: 2012 Traverse LTZ Rep Power: 53	Academy football is a laugh. Just watch what happens when they play real colleges. __________________ 2010 Black Cherry Touring/Sport/Nav Now - 2012 Travese LTZ until I leave for Turkey

04-28-2010, 04:10 PM	#33 (permalink)
blue660r01 Guest Posts: n/a	Come on Shumby we all know Canada has no military haha

04-28-2010, 04:16 PM	#34 (permalink)
STi 5 Base Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Middle Of Some Town, OH Posts: 119 Drives: 2011 STi Rep Power: 16	He's just bitter he has to sleep in the dirt. Give me a break, Army Intelligence...I'll pass, I know Military Intelligence as a whole is a complete misnomer, but come on. Like I said earlier, if someone wants to fly Helicopters...it's pretty cut and dry what service you go into. Have you ever been in an F-16 cockpit, that's late 50's and early 60's tech with progressive upgrades, if you saw the glass cockpit in an F-35 your jaw would drop. Then when they told you to repair the avionics, you'd look like a monkey trying to F* a football. I'm not saying I lack any respect for what you do Red370, but everytime you try to come over the top with this "information" about how much better the Army is I seriously LOL. I make 60K a year too, as a WG-10 step 3 but I have never had to step foot into the sandbox or anywhere near there, but the difference is whenever I go on a deployment, I get to double dip, and that is on top of my 60K. Does that make one of us better than the other? I feel like you are trying to make this into a contest, when all the OP needs is FACTUAL information. I will never understand trying to pump yourself up on a forum...who the f* cares. I'm done with bantering back and forth as it doesn't help the OP with his decision. Lateron.

04-28-2010, 05:33 PM	#43 (permalink)
ZCarMan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: MD Posts: 4,488 Drives: 09 Z34, 13 F-150 Rep Power: 27	ZENTROPY, first off I commend you for considering to serve your country. As a retired enlisted sailor I too joined in order to get out of what I thought was a dead end and to also serve my country. Yes I was a bit patriotic as well as my Father had served a career in the USAF as well learning how to turn wrenches keeping F-86s, F84s, F100s, F-101s and finally RF-101 Voodoos in the air. All I can say is that you should read each post carefully to see the good and the bad and then go find some people you can actually talk with about their experiences. If you want to make money, the military isn't exactly the place to do it, although the military is paying some great money for people during wartime to keep the skills needed to take the fight to the enemy. Its the skils that you learn and are taught that will pay off after your tour in the military. Whatever your decision I applaud your thinking of serving your country during a time of war. My Son is a Marine (Infanty), joined right out of high school in 2003 and found himself in Al Anbar, Ramadi specifically just as the surge was beginning, helping to rid the area of AQ in Iraq and other insurgents. He says he would not have traded the experience for anything. You too will have life changing experiences that will impact your future and how you see the world for the rest of your life. Yes, being in the military means putting your life on the line, but you do that just driving to work every day. Serving your country is an honorable profession whatever you choose. I wish you all the best! Hooah! __________________ Jon Swift \| SPC \| Stillen \| Motordyne \| AAM \| Cobb \| Hawk \| Volk Racing \| Bridgestone Green Demon Eyes

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